*Apologies to Shump, his upside might be higher than Lin's actually.

I'm very interested in seeing how Lin develops. I think I read somewhere that he worked out to get physically stronger. That should help his durability, but it might slow him down a little. Also, I'm curious if he's now able to go left. That would make him difficult to guard.

C

Without looking at salary - we could have easily traded him to Orlando (trying to keep Howard), Dallas (restocking with Dirk), or Miami.

You can not defend any grade but F.

Knicksfan wrote:

franco12 wrote:for those not giving F's, the knicks could have matched Lin and traded him in January to just about half the league and at least gotten back 2-3 first round draft picks.

Without looking at salary - we could have easily traded him to Orlando (trying to keep Howard), Dallas (restocking with Dirk), or Miami.

You can not defend any grade but F.

You might be right, but there is a possibility that even with Lin playing great, not many teams trade for him with that poisson pill. Whit the team we have, Lin was bound for a reduction in his numbers and who knows if the comments on players about his contract would've represented a future problem in the locker room that would've also affected him. Yes, these are suppositions, but have as much value as yours.

Again, I would have matched him and see what I could do later, but the Knicks considered that and still made this decision. Do they know something we don't? We'll see but I don't think it is necessaryly as easy as you mention it.

this is from my response to the Berger article thread about fans seeing this B&W.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I think this is clearly black and white,

Simple - the Knicks match the contract.

If there is a personality issue, then the Knicks trade him January of 2013. Crap, you could keep him on ice the whole friggin time. You get back at least and ending contract and draft picks. Dallas, Orlando, Miami, Toronto- plenty of teams you could easily move him to.

If there is no personality issue, and they keep him, but is a bust, then they waive him and spread the $14M cap hit over three years. Dolan has blown bigger money on worst things.

If there is no personality issue, and the keep him, and his play is Linsane, guess what- he is worth every cent you pay in the luxury tax, and maybe you find a taker for one of the other big three contracts we have before the tax hit.

How the heck is that not clear, rational thinking?

franco12 wrote:

Knicksfan wrote:

franco12 wrote:for those not giving F's, the knicks could have matched Lin and traded him in January to just about half the league and at least gotten back 2-3 first round draft picks.

Without looking at salary - we could have easily traded him to Orlando (trying to keep Howard), Dallas (restocking with Dirk), or Miami.

You can not defend any grade but F.

You might be right, but there is a possibility that even with Lin playing great, not many teams trade for him with that poisson pill. Whit the team we have, Lin was bound for a reduction in his numbers and who knows if the comments on players about his contract would've represented a future problem in the locker room that would've also affected him. Yes, these are suppositions, but have as much value as yours.

Again, I would have matched him and see what I could do later, but the Knicks considered that and still made this decision. Do they know something we don't? We'll see but I don't think it is necessaryly as easy as you mention it.

this is from my response to the Berger article thread about fans seeing this B&W.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I think this is clearly black and white,

Simple - the Knicks match the contract.

If there is a personality issue, then the Knicks trade him January of 2013. Crap, you could keep him on ice the whole friggin time. You get back at least and ending contract and draft picks. Dallas, Orlando, Miami, Toronto- plenty of teams you could easily move him to.

If there is no personality issue, and they keep him, but is a bust, then they waive him and spread the $14M cap hit over three years. Dolan has blown bigger money on worst things.

If there is no personality issue, and the keep him, and his play is Linsane, guess what- he is worth every cent you pay in the luxury tax, and maybe you find a taker for one of the other big three contracts we have before the tax hit.

How the heck is that not clear, rational thinking?

franco12 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

franco12 wrote:

Knicksfan wrote:

franco12 wrote:for those not giving F's, the knicks could have matched Lin and traded him in January to just about half the league and at least gotten back 2-3 first round draft picks.

Without looking at salary - we could have easily traded him to Orlando (trying to keep Howard), Dallas (restocking with Dirk), or Miami.

You can not defend any grade but F.

You might be right, but there is a possibility that even with Lin playing great, not many teams trade for him with that poisson pill. Whit the team we have, Lin was bound for a reduction in his numbers and who knows if the comments on players about his contract would've represented a future problem in the locker room that would've also affected him. Yes, these are suppositions, but have as much value as yours.

Again, I would have matched him and see what I could do later, but the Knicks considered that and still made this decision. Do they know something we don't? We'll see but I don't think it is necessaryly as easy as you mention it.

this is from my response to the Berger article thread about fans seeing this B&W.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I think this is clearly black and white,

Simple - the Knicks match the contract.

If there is a personality issue, then the Knicks trade him January of 2013. Crap, you could keep him on ice the whole friggin time. You get back at least and ending contract and draft picks. Dallas, Orlando, Miami, Toronto- plenty of teams you could easily move him to.

If there is no personality issue, and they keep him, but is a bust, then they waive him and spread the $14M cap hit over three years. Dolan has blown bigger money on worst things.

If there is no personality issue, and the keep him, and his play is Linsane, guess what- he is worth every cent you pay in the luxury tax, and maybe you find a taker for one of the other big three contracts we have before the tax hit.

How the heck is that not clear, rational thinking?

Dolan's feelings were hurt and that comes before basketball, the Knicks and the fans

Sorry, but I've missed this. I've seen this written here that Dolan's feelings have been hurt.

How, where, and was there an article or news item or radio show about same?

I just think its irrational- and that isn't out of character for Dolan. But I would think Dollars and Cents would even get through to him.

If it is feelings- then part of it must be Dolan thinks its MSG that made Lin great, and in Houston, he'll just be another marginal star from a marketing stand point.

Dolan was at risk... If a Lin-lead team started to win MSG would have a monster on their hands. They would prefer yes men they can control. Melo is perfect.. big enough a star to be called a star, not good enough to bring the wins that allows him to call the shots.

He was doing well (A-), but in the past week this is what we've done:

Jeremy Lin
Jared Jeffries
Dan Gadzuric's non-guaranteed contract
Georgios Printezis
Kostas Papanikolaou
Cash considerations

for

Raymond Felton
Kurt Thomas

Equivalent of a student doing well over the semester, and just bombing the final exam.

franco12 wrote:

Knicksfan wrote:

franco12 wrote:for those not giving F's, the knicks could have matched Lin and traded him in January to just about half the league and at least gotten back 2-3 first round draft picks.

Without looking at salary - we could have easily traded him to Orlando (trying to keep Howard), Dallas (restocking with Dirk), or Miami.

You can not defend any grade but F.

You might be right, but there is a possibility that even with Lin playing great, not many teams trade for him with that poisson pill. Whit the team we have, Lin was bound for a reduction in his numbers and who knows if the comments on players about his contract would've represented a future problem in the locker room that would've also affected him. Yes, these are suppositions, but have as much value as yours.

Again, I would have matched him and see what I could do later, but the Knicks considered that and still made this decision. Do they know something we don't? We'll see but I don't think it is necessaryly as easy as you mention it.

this is from my response to the Berger article thread about fans seeing this B&W.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I think this is clearly black and white,

Simple - the Knicks match the contract.

If there is a personality issue, then the Knicks trade him January of 2013. Crap, you could keep him on ice the whole friggin time. You get back at least and ending contract and draft picks. Dallas, Orlando, Miami, Toronto- plenty of teams you could easily move him to.

If there is no personality issue, and they keep him, but is a bust, then they waive him and spread the $14M cap hit over three years. Dolan has blown bigger money on worst things.

If there is no personality issue, and the keep him, and his play is Linsane, guess what- he is worth every cent you pay in the luxury tax, and maybe you find a taker for one of the other big three contracts we have before the tax hit.

How the heck is that not clear, rational thinking?