mrKnickShot wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:Forget about how you feel about Lin. We are a team that is insisting that we are going for broke and competing for a championship. To do so we will need to add a strong supporting cast around Amare, Carmelo and Tyson. We don't have a lot of picks, we have no cap space and little chance to improve this team without tearing apart the core (yet again). And what are we doing? Why would a team in that position let an asset walk out the door and get nothing in return? Awesome

Everything has a price Bip.

What price do you consider too much? 50 million over 3 years? Your price and their price could be a bit different.

Financial Analysts seem to strongly feel that it was a mistake for Dolan to match and that it would show great discipline and restraint if he did not.

Me as a fan that does not care about his or MSG's money was really hoping that they match.

Jesus are you clowns dense or something. For the final time it's NOT ABOUT THE LUXURY TAX! Read this and get a clue.

One point the Knicks have made is they don’t want to take a tax hit of $43 million or so in the last year of Lin’s deal. But the CBA contains a stretch provision clause that allows a team to waive a player with an odorous contract and spread the remaining years out over twice the number of years, plus one.

So say the Knicks waive Lin after he completes two years of the 3-year, $25.1 million deal with $14.9 in that third year. They could stretch the third year payment over three years (one year, times two, plus one) and the salary would only cost $5 million against the Knicks cap. The luxury tax would them also be in line.

And if after two years the Knicks determine Lin is worth every penny, they could keep him and perhaps use the provision on a different player. Lin’s contract, of course, would stay the same.

Shumpert is a key young player to develop, and we have to draft a good player in next season's draft. We will also look to pickup a young piece to add to the mix with next season's mid level. That is 3 pieces to add for the future. Melo is the key to it all, and he should still be in his prime for another 5 years. His game shouldn't change much. I still like where we are at with all of this.

FeltonandAmare wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:Forget about how you feel about Lin. We are a team that is insisting that we are going for broke and competing for a championship. To do so we will need to add a strong supporting cast around Amare, Carmelo and Tyson. We don't have a lot of picks, we have no cap space and little chance to improve this team without tearing apart the core (yet again). And what are we doing? Why would a team in that position let an asset walk out the door and get nothing in return? Awesome

Everything has a price Bip.

What price do you consider too much? 50 million over 3 years? Your price and their price could be a bit different.

Financial Analysts seem to strongly feel that it was a mistake for Dolan to match and that it would show great discipline and restraint if he did not.

Me as a fan that does not care about his or MSG's money was really hoping that they match.

Jesus are you clowns dense or something. For the final time it's NOT ABOUT THE LUXURY TAX! Read this and get a clue.

One point the Knicks have made is they don’t want to take a tax hit of $43 million or so in the last year of Lin’s deal. But the CBA contains a stretch provision clause that allows a team to waive a player with an odorous contract and spread the remaining years out over twice the number of years, plus one.

So say the Knicks waive Lin after he completes two years of the 3-year, $25.1 million deal with $14.9 in that third year. They could stretch the third year payment over three years (one year, times two, plus one) and the salary would only cost $5 million against the Knicks cap. The luxury tax would them also be in line.

And if after two years the Knicks determine Lin is worth every penny, they could keep him and perhaps use the provision on a different player. Lin’s contract, of course, would stay the same.

We know about the stretch provision and I am sure the clowns at msg are aware of it too.

And anyways, who the hell are you? Syniko?

Whats with all the clown stuff?

What a clown

Bippity10 wrote:Forget about how you feel about Lin. We are a team that is insisting that we are going for broke and competing for a championship. To do so we will need to add a strong supporting cast around Amare, Carmelo and Tyson. We don't have a lot of picks, we have no cap space and little chance to improve this team without tearing apart the core (yet again). And what are we doing? Why would a team in that position let an asset walk out the door and get nothing in return? Awesome

Thanks Bip. We really needed another Jeremy Lin thread. Just another example of how desperate for attention you are.

BigDaddyG wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:Forget about how you feel about Lin. We are a team that is insisting that we are going for broke and competing for a championship. To do so we will need to add a strong supporting cast around Amare, Carmelo and Tyson. We don't have a lot of picks, we have no cap space and little chance to improve this team without tearing apart the core (yet again). And what are we doing? Why would a team in that position let an asset walk out the door and get nothing in return? Awesome

Everything has a price Bip.

What price do you consider too much? 50 million over 3 years? Your price and their price could be a bit different.

Financial Analysts seem to strongly feel that it was a mistake for Dolan to match and that it would show great discipline and restraint if he did not.

Me as a fan that does not care about his or MSG's money was really hoping that they match.

He's obviously overpaid. But again, we just spent the better part of a decade overpaying non assets like Weatherspoon and Jeffries and Curry and Shandon and Eisley etc. Why this moment? We would have been able to trade that contract in year 3 to someone looking for cap relief if we had to. I'm still not sure I completely understand why that year 3 is such an issue.

Just because a guy smokes Crack in the past (take that anyway you want it in regards to Dolan) doesn't mean he should continue doing it. Letting Landry Fields go was a good start in the right direction and maybe Dolan has realized the folly of his ways. If this was the other way around and we were the one who offered Lin this poison pill contract, best believe that media types would be killing this move.

Just because Steinbrenner was a douche in the 80's thank heaven he stopped making the same douche moves in the 90's

FeltonandAmare wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

FeltonandAmare wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:Forget about how you feel about Lin. We are a team that is insisting that we are going for broke and competing for a championship. To do so we will need to add a strong supporting cast around Amare, Carmelo and Tyson. We don't have a lot of picks, we have no cap space and little chance to improve this team without tearing apart the core (yet again). And what are we doing? Why would a team in that position let an asset walk out the door and get nothing in return? Awesome

Everything has a price Bip.

What price do you consider too much? 50 million over 3 years? Your price and their price could be a bit different.

Financial Analysts seem to strongly feel that it was a mistake for Dolan to match and that it would show great discipline and restraint if he did not.

Me as a fan that does not care about his or MSG's money was really hoping that they match.

Jesus are you clowns dense or something. For the final time it's NOT ABOUT THE LUXURY TAX! Read this and get a clue.

One point the Knicks have made is they don’t want to take a tax hit of $43 million or so in the last year of Lin’s deal. But the CBA contains a stretch provision clause that allows a team to waive a player with an odorous contract and spread the remaining years out over twice the number of years, plus one.

So say the Knicks waive Lin after he completes two years of the 3-year, $25.1 million deal with $14.9 in that third year. They could stretch the third year payment over three years (one year, times two, plus one) and the salary would only cost $5 million against the Knicks cap. The luxury tax would them also be in line.

And if after two years the Knicks determine Lin is worth every penny, they could keep him and perhaps use the provision on a different player. Lin’s contract, of course, would stay the same.

We know about the stretch provision and I am sure the clowns at msg are aware of it too.

And anyways, who the hell are you? Syniko?

Whats with all the clown stuff?

What a clown

If you know about the stretch provision then stop talking about financial analysts as if this was a financial decision.
If you don't see the connection and why I pointed out your error then you truly are dense.

Dense? Hahahaha - what a dope.

This is not a financial decision and YOU know and understand better than they do.

NOW THATS RICH!!

Keep talkin and calling people clown.

mrKnickShot wrote:

FeltonandAmare wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

FeltonandAmare wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:Forget about how you feel about Lin. We are a team that is insisting that we are going for broke and competing for a championship. To do so we will need to add a strong supporting cast around Amare, Carmelo and Tyson. We don't have a lot of picks, we have no cap space and little chance to improve this team without tearing apart the core (yet again). And what are we doing? Why would a team in that position let an asset walk out the door and get nothing in return? Awesome

Everything has a price Bip.

What price do you consider too much? 50 million over 3 years? Your price and their price could be a bit different.

Financial Analysts seem to strongly feel that it was a mistake for Dolan to match and that it would show great discipline and restraint if he did not.

Me as a fan that does not care about his or MSG's money was really hoping that they match.

Jesus are you clowns dense or something. For the final time it's NOT ABOUT THE LUXURY TAX! Read this and get a clue.

One point the Knicks have made is they don’t want to take a tax hit of $43 million or so in the last year of Lin’s deal. But the CBA contains a stretch provision clause that allows a team to waive a player with an odorous contract and spread the remaining years out over twice the number of years, plus one.

So say the Knicks waive Lin after he completes two years of the 3-year, $25.1 million deal with $14.9 in that third year. They could stretch the third year payment over three years (one year, times two, plus one) and the salary would only cost $5 million against the Knicks cap. The luxury tax would them also be in line.

And if after two years the Knicks determine Lin is worth every penny, they could keep him and perhaps use the provision on a different player. Lin’s contract, of course, would stay the same.

We know about the stretch provision and I am sure the clowns at msg are aware of it too.

And anyways, who the hell are you? Syniko?

Whats with all the clown stuff?

What a clown

If you know about the stretch provision then stop talking about financial analysts as if this was a financial decision.
If you don't see the connection and why I pointed out your error then you truly are dense.

Dense? Hahahaha - what a dope.

This is not a financial decision and YOU know and understand better than they do.

NOW THATS RICH!!

Keep talkin and calling people clown.

Did someone say Clown?

IrishKnickFan wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:

BasketballJones wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:Forget about how you feel about Lin. We are a team that is insisting that we are going for broke and competing for a championship. To do so we will need to add a strong supporting cast around Amare, Carmelo and Tyson. We don't have a lot of picks, we have no cap space and little chance to improve this team without tearing apart the core (yet again). And what are we doing? Why would a team in that position let an asset walk out the door and get nothing in return? Awesome

Thanks Bip. We really needed another Jeremy Lin thread. Just another example of how desperate for attention you are.

I missed that. What did you say about me?

I wouldnt listen to that idiot Bip you bring up a lot of good points

Typically I dont' respond to basketballjones because he is beneath me. Howeva.....In this case he was talkinga bout me so I felt the need to try to keep that portion of the thread going