Even Clyde and Alan Hahn believe we should match:

During our broadcast here of the Knicks' Summer League game against the Suns on Sunday, Walt Frazier and I both agreed that the team should match the contract. "Worry about later, later," Frazier said, with the idea that if Lin proves to not be the value you hoped before Year 3, he can be traded as an expiring contract for one or two players. In fact, if the Knicks match, they can trade Lin after Jan. 15 with his consent, which means before this year's deadline he could be moved. They can even ship him to the Rockets -- so Houston can enjoy that balloon in Year 3 -- next summer.

The idea is, just as an asset alone, Lin is too valuable to let walk without any compensation. In the NBA, if you don't match an offer sheet for a restricted free agent, you do not receive any compensatory draft picks as in other sports. You just lose the player. Even if Lin isn't part of the plan going forward, especially with Raymond Felton reportedly back to run the point (more on this later), Lin should be retained just so the franchise can get some type of return.

Though several scouts have told me they still don't see Lin becoming more than a very good backup point guard in this league, I'm a strong believer in his potential because of his ability to get to the rim, finish, hit clutch shots, galvanize teammates and, most of all, his impressive will.

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ChuckBuck wrote:Apparently it is:

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=42508

If you read the article or any of the posts in that thread, you know the tax bill is for the whole roster, not just Lin.

Why not do the same math on Amar'e or Melo or Kidd or Camby or Felton or Novak?

Here's another way to look at it - the Knicks gave Novak $15M for one skill. Lin has at least four elite skills (driving to the rim, drawing fouls, pull up jumpers, passing) and people are balking at paying him $25M.

This is one of the stupidest arguments I have ever heard.

Not signing Lin does nothing to help the team's flexibility. If anything it hurts it - it gives away our most valuable trade chip, possibly next to Shump, for NOTHING.

Knicks also can't do sign and trades and they would be paying a much higher amount than they ever have in the past.

Also True Statement (directed to feltonandAmare and crzymadups): the knicks would be paying around 43 million in luxury tax for lin ALONE in 2015.

You do not understand how the new luxury tax system works - it is NOT the simple dollar for dollar luxury tax system of the old CBA.

crzymdups wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:Apparently it is:

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=42508

If you read the article or any of the posts in that thread, you know the tax bill is for the whole roster, not just Lin.

Why not do the same math on Amar'e or Melo or Kidd or Camby or Felton or Novak?

Here's another way to look at it - the Knicks gave Novak $15M for one skill. Lin has at least four elite skills (driving to the rim, drawing fouls, pull up jumpers, passing) and people are balking at paying him $25M.

This is one of the stupidest arguments I have ever heard.

Not signing Lin does nothing to help the team's flexibility. If anything it hurts it - it gives away our most valuable trade chip, possibly next to Shump, for NOTHING.

There are reasons morey and Lin structured the contract the way they did. It was meant to be so prohibitive that the knicks wouldn't match it.

Caseloads wrote:True Statement:

Knicks also can't do sign and trades and they would be paying a much higher amount than they ever have in the past.

Also True Statement (directed to feltonandAmare and crzymadups): the knicks would be paying around 43 million in luxury tax for lin ALONE in 2015.

You do not understand how the new luxury tax system works - it is NOT the simple dollar for dollar luxury tax system of the old CBA.

Lin isn't costing the Knicks $43 million in tax in 2015. Their total payroll is. These are the kind of math tricks politicians use and you should become a politician with your twisted logic.

CrushAlot wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:Apparently it is:

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=42508

If you read the article or any of the posts in that thread, you know the tax bill is for the whole roster, not just Lin.

Why not do the same math on Amar'e or Melo or Kidd or Camby or Felton or Novak?

Here's another way to look at it - the Knicks gave Novak $15M for one skill. Lin has at least four elite skills (driving to the rim, drawing fouls, pull up jumpers, passing) and people are balking at paying him $25M.

This is one of the stupidest arguments I have ever heard.

Not signing Lin does nothing to help the team's flexibility. If anything it hurts it - it gives away our most valuable trade chip, possibly next to Shump, for NOTHING.

There are reasons morey and Lin structured the contract the way they did. It was meant to be so prohibitive that the knicks wouldn't match it.

The Knicks can afford it. And they'll make far less advertising money without Lin.

They'll probably even lose money to the Nets.

Dolan is an idiot. There's a reason he's been a failure at every venture he's ever entered into.

crzymdups wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:Apparently it is:

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=42508

If you read the article or any of the posts in that thread, you know the tax bill is for the whole roster, not just Lin.

Why not do the same math on Amar'e or Melo or Kidd or Camby or Felton or Novak?

Here's another way to look at it - the Knicks gave Novak $15M for one skill. Lin has at least four elite skills (driving to the rim, drawing fouls, pull up jumpers, passing) and people are balking at paying him $25M.

This is one of the stupidest arguments I have ever heard.

Not signing Lin does nothing to help the team's flexibility. If anything it hurts it - it gives away our most valuable trade chip, possibly next to Shump, for NOTHING.

There are reasons morey and Lin structured the contract the way they did. It was meant to be so prohibitive that the knicks wouldn't match it.

The Knicks can afford it. And they'll make far less advertising money without Lin.

They'll probably even lose money to the Nets.

Dolan is an idiot. There's a reason he's been a failure at every venture he's ever entered into.

Be careful you're using logic some of the clowns on here can't follow logic. I'm not sure who is dumber
Dolan or some of the idiot posters on here.