gunsnewing wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:gunsnewing wrote:Exactly man Melo led the team to an 18-6 record into the playoffs when we were out of it and surrendering a pick to houston.
Yet we're still below .500 in games he plays in!
Were the knicks every getting out of the 1st round with a broken down amare, gallo and dantoni?
Are you asking if the team could've gotten out of the 1st rd if they never traded for Melo? I think it's possible. You have to remember that the team had already at least achieved being a .500 team without Melo. It's not like things have been demonstrably better with him. Who knows how the team would've continued to develop if left alone?
To me that's not the issue. Melo is here and he's also a very difficult player to build a team around. Also some of us have really locked into this 18-6 thing and how Melo closed the season, but be careful. He's never played like he did during that short stretch for an entire season.
MIN FGM-FGA FG% 3PM-3PA 3P% FTM-FTA FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS
April 36.9 11.3-22.8 .495 1.9-4.2 .460 5.4-6.7 .813 7.3 3.6 0.4 1.1 3.1 2.5 29.8
SEASON TEAM GP GS MIN FGM-A FG% 3PM-A 3P% FTM-A FT% OR DR REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS
'03-'04 DEN 82 82 36.5 7.6-17.9 .426 0.8-2.6 .322 5.0-6.4 .777 2.2 3.8 6.0 2.8 0.5 1.2 2.7 3.0 21.0
'04-'05 DEN 75 75 34.8 7.1-16.4 .431 0.6-2.1 .266 6.1-7.6 .796 1.9 3.8 5.7 2.6 0.4 0.9 3.1 3.0 20.8
'05-'06 DEN 80 80 36.8 9.4-19.6 .481 0.5-1.9 .243 7.2-8.9 .808 1.5 3.4 4.9 2.7 0.5 1.1 2.9 2.7 26.5
'06-'07 DEN 65 65 38.2 10.6-22.4 .476 0.6-2.3 .268 7.1-8.7 .808 2.2 3.8 6.0 3.8 0.4 1.2 3.1 3.6 28.9
'07-'08 DEN 77 77 36.4 9.5-19.2 .492 0.8-2.1 .354 6.0-7.7 .786 2.3 5.1 7.4 3.4 0.5 1.3 3.3 3.3 25.7
'08-'09 DEN 66 66 34.5 8.1-18.3 .443 1.0-2.6 .371 5.6-7.1 .793 1.6 5.2 6.8 3.4 0.4 1.1 3.0 3.0 22.8
'09-'10 DEN 69 69 38.2 10.0-21.8 .458 0.9-2.7 .316 7.4-8.9 .830 2.2 4.4 6.6 3.2 0.4 1.3 3.3 3.0 28.2
'10-'11 DEN 50 50 35.5 8.7-19.3 .452 0.8-2.5 .333 6.9-8.3 .823 1.5 6.1 7.6 2.8 0.6 0.9 2.7 2.8 25.2
'10-'11 NY 27 27 36.2 9.1-19.9 .461 2.0-4.6 .424 6.1-7.0 .872 1.5 5.2 6.7 3.0 0.6 0.9 3.3 2.4 26.3
'11-'12 NY 55 55 34.1 8.0-18.6 .430 1.2-3.7 .335 5.4-6.7 .804 1.6 4.7 6.3 3.6 0.4 1.1 2.8 2.6 22.6
Career 646 646 36.2 8.8-19.3 .456 0.8-2.6 .322 6.3-7.8 .805 1.9 4.4 6.3 3.1 0.5 1.1 3.0 3.0 24.7
Melo's career numbers are more of who he really is and I suspect that unless he makes a major change to his off season routine he'll stay about right where his career numbers are. So what we need is to figure out how to augment his game with players that can succeed despite his being a ball stopper. More half court players that fit into a style that is more grind it out than we've been in the last couple of years. I think adding even more defensive players along with some shooting and a couple more ISO capable players would make more sense.