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Nalod
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Posted: Monday May 21, 2012 12:03PM ; Updated: Monday May 21, 2012 5:05PM
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Before our recent lunch, the last time I had seen Mike D'Antoni was on the afternoon of March 11, right after an embarrassing 106-94 home defeat to the Philadelphia 76ers. Linsanity had gone quiet, the New York Knicks had lost eight of their last 11 games and their hold on the Eastern Conference's final playoff spot was growing ever more precarious.

"You've been having a better time with prostate cancer," D'Antoni said to me, referencing a now-resolved health issue, "than I've been having coaching this team." He was only half-kidding.

Three days after that, on his way to a noon shootaround before a home game for the 18-24 Knicks, D'Antoni suddenly decided he was going to resign. Thinking it and doing it are two different things, but he did it. I'd like to say that I saw it coming, but I figured, like most everyone else, that D'Antoni would hold on, get the Knicks into a first-round series, lose to the Chicago Bulls or the Miami Heat, and say all the right things when his contract was not renewed, bringing to an end a four-year, $24 million story that had both ups and downs.

Since he left, D'Antoni has gone underground. There have been periodic "sources say" stories about him, but the man has stayed quiet, not an easy thing to do after you've been in the middle of a maelstrom, which is the lot of anyone who blows a whistle, fills out a lineup card or strategizes a line change in New York City.

"I expected to see you with long fingernails and a beard, kind of like Howard Hughes," I told him when we met recently at his house in the northern suburbs of New York.

"It's not like that," he said. "I'm not a hermit. I get out."

But not as much on the golf course as he had intended -- two aching knees are interfering with his swing. He spent several days in West Virginia raising money for his alma mater, Marshall University, but most of the time he's been at home, digesting the nightly NBA doubleheaders, driving himself half nuts watching news and political shows (he's a moderate Democrat), carting around his son, Michael, a high school junior, and in general playing the role of house husband.

"I just haven't felt like talking," he said. "Tell you the truth, I don't feel much like talking to you." He was smiling. Sort of.

So let's get this out of the way: D'Antoni talked but not about what everyone wants to hear. He would not roast the Knicks as a franchise or any player in particular. He left a lot unsaid, of that there can be no doubt.

As a further disclaimer, it is difficult for me to write objectively about D'Antoni, whom I consider a friend and whose 2005-06 Phoenix Suns team was the subject of a book I wrote. Journalism is a strange business: The closer you get to someone, the more you find out, which is a major part of the game. But the closer you get, the less likely you are to write about the subject candidly. You might excavate details that other don't get, but how do you handle them? And if you were somehow able to write forthrightly, how would the reading public take it because of the understandable perception that your objective filter is in the "off" position?

So right after D'Antoni resigned, I decided not to spring reflexively to his defense or write one of those predictable "the-inmates-are-running-the-asylum" columns. I continue that stance here and offer only this opinion: D'Antoni will get another job, perhaps not next year but sometime in the near future. As for the Knicks, they should be better with a full season under probable coach Mike Woodson, who guided New York to an 18-6 record and five-game, first-round loss to the Miami Heat after D'Antoni's departure. But they are still a dysfunctional team that must figure out a way to win with a superstar in Carmelo Anthony who is, and apparently always will be, what he was called by his coach (George Karl) in Denver --"a ball-stopper."

Our conversation took place at an Italian restaurant in Port Chester, where we were joined by Mike's brother, Dan, who was a Knicks assistant coach until Mike's resignation.

SI.com: So, according to various sources, you're staying home next season, going after the Orlando Magic job, or staying local and saving the Brooklyn Nets. I even saw that written once. What's the truth?

Mike D'Antoni: The truth is, you can't win when those stories come out. Nobody has called me about the Orlando job. When I saw those stories, I immediately texted Stan [Van Gundy, the then-Magic coach] and told him it was bull----. [Editor's note: Orlando parted ways with Van Gundy and general manager Otis Smith on Monday afternoon.]

If I even answer the question, somebody will say, "Well, hell, nobody offered it to you, so why are you talking about it? They have a coach." And that would be correct. But if I give an unqualified "no," and something happens later, then I look like a liar.

SI.com: So you are still interested in coaching?

M.D.: Yes. I'm not making a secret about that. I want to get back. But nothing is going on now, and the smart money says that I will hang out here [at his suburban home]. Michael will be a senior and to let him finish and graduate would be one good reason to stay here for a year.

SI.com: It was pretty consistently reported that you quit and were not fired. But there is still some doubt because what you did was unusual. "Quitting" almost always means "fired." So which is it?

M.D.: I absolutely resigned. I was in my car driving to shootaround and it just came to me. That's it. It's inevitable. I have to resign. We're not going anywhere. I made the decision then and there. I called Glen [Grunwald, the Knicks' general manager] and told him that I was coming in to do it. Then I called Laurel [his wife] to tell her. Glen called in Mr. Dolan [Knicks owner James Dolan] and I met them after shootaround and told them that I was resigning.

SI.com: But Dolan didn't exactly get on his knees and beg you to stay, right? You were at the end of your contract and it probably wouldn't have worked out for another one.

M.D.: I'd say that's accurate.

SI.com: Quitting must've been very hard since ...

M.D.: Could you use the word "resign?" It hurts when I even hear the word "quit."

SI.com: [Directed to Dan D'Antoni] What did you think when Mike called you?

Dan D'Antoni: Hell, I didn't even find out from Mike. I was getting ready to go to the game and Glen called me.

M.D.: The hell I didn't call you.

D.D.: The hell you did. [He was laughing but he was serious.] True, you called me later, but I got that first call from Glen. I asked him, "Well, is there anything you want me to do? You want me to come down there?" And he told me that they were letting Phil [Weber, another assistant] and me go because we were too close to Mike. So that was that. One minute I'm going to the game, the next minute I'm out of a job.

SI.com: What did you think of Mike's decision?

D.D.: It was his and his alone. I'm just thankful for the opportunity he gave me.

SI.com: [Back to Mike] Why didn't you go to the Garden and have a press conference? It must've hurt you not to tell the players in person.

M.D.: I just thought it would be better if I didn't show up. I wasn't going to coach them anymore, so why complicate it? I ended up talking to most of the players anyway. Many of them called me.

SI.com: Which ones didn't? And which ones haven't you talked to?

M.D.: I'm not getting into that.

SI.com: Did you watch the game that night [a 121-79 victory against the Portland Trail Blazers]?

M.D.: No. I got into my pajamas and didn't get out of them for a month. You know those people who deliver the food from Meals on Wheels? They were the only ones who saw me.

SI.com: Nice to see you haven't lost your sense of humor.

M.D.: Who says I'm kidding? Seriously, resigning hurt. It hurt a lot. It still does.

SI.com: The widest-held theory is that you couldn't get along with Carmelo Anthony, that any schism on the team, the report that you had "lost the team," came from ...

M.D.: I'm just not going to get into specifics. It came to the point that I had to resign, that's all. It was time. We weren't going anywhere and I was the coach.

SI.com: All right, a theoretical question. You're a coach who likes an open floor, an active point guard, quick shots, pick-and-rolls, "dribble-ats," lots of movement. Carmelo is a post-up player who needs the ball and demands the ball. He's great but he kills the clock. Can that ever work? Was it doomed from the beginning?

M.D.: Look, I've coached players who post up. Heck, Amar'e [Stoudemire, a Knicks forward] has been a post-up player. We used to post up Boris Diaw a lot in Phoenix. There are always things that can be done by mixing it up. Now, was it the best situation for my coaching philosophy? No. But there's never one answer for why things don't work out.

SI.com: When you decided to go to Jeremy Lin as your point guard, did you ever think he could be that good? And as it was happening, did you guys whisper among yourselves, "Man, this can't go on forever"?

M.D.: Anyone who claims they saw this in Jeremy is kidding himself. But we liked him. We thought he could be good. And, then, when he started to be real good ... of course it was surprising ... but it somehow made sense. The things he does -- he can get into the lane, he can shoot, he's tough, he's athletic, his confidence was growing and growing. It became almost logical that he was that good during that time.

D.D.: It comes down to this: Jeremy ran what Mike teaches really, really well.

SI.com: Was the experience of coaching in New York more difficult than you thought?

M.D.: I'm not going to do any woe-is-me. There's a lot of pressure but that's why they pay you. It's still a great job, and I think Woody [Woodson] will do a great job. It got to the point where we had problems, we could not solve them, and an obstacle had to be removed.

SI.com: One more thing: What was your wife's reaction when you told her you were quitting?

M.D.: She told me I should stop at the store on my way home because we were out of milk.

SI.com: Don't rule out a future in comedy.

M.D.: I haven't.

Jack McCallum is the author of the forthcoming Dream Team, a book about the gold-medal-winning 1992 U.S. Olympic team led by Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson and Larry Bird . Read an excerpt at jackmccallum.net.

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5/21/2012  11:03 PM
Classy dude. Nice change of pace from the guy he replaced
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5/22/2012  1:14 AM
It's classy to not tell your brother
you're quitting?
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5/22/2012  3:30 AM
I thought it was a bit too soon for him to do an interview and as such he really didn't reveal very much as expected. The writing was on the wall when Walsh was pushed aside in the Melo negotiations. I think Isiah and the rest of the Knicks brass never forgave Walsh for not being more effective in the Lebron talks. Remember the reports of how they were put off by Walsh looking like an invalid and the Knicks teams not really having an impressive pitch. I think that made Dolan NERVOUS that Walsh wouldn't be able to deliver on the Melo deal. In addition to the fact that some felt Walsh and MDA were not in favor of bringing in Melo especially at a high cost. Walsh and MDA wanted to preserve as much of the roster they had built as possible. After Walsh left and they all but demanded that MDA take on Woody, it was only a matter of time.

I think Melo and the rest of the players all understood that Woody was there not just to help coaching but that he was the hand picked replacement for MDA. So why would Melo feel inclined to listen to MDA if he didn't like what he was hearing? In the end I think MDA was tired of the farce and it wasn't worth pretending anymore. He knew he wasn't going to win over Melo and he wasn't going to get a new contract. This entire 4 years was nothing but a waste of his time and damaging to his career legacy. 2 years with no real effort to put a winning team on the floor and then last year he finally has a little something resembling a team he can work with and then he gets that ripped from him and he gets to take on Melo a player who is the antithesis of what his whole coaching philosophy is about. I think the team had to go after Melo but it was clearly not a move made with MDA in mind. If you have MDA in mind you go after Deron or CP3, not Melo.

Now we have to see if we can catch a break and the players win the arbitration over Bird Rights, cuz if they don't this team is gonna be in a really tough spot trying to build a contender. They sacrificed so much for Melo and now we're somewhat stuck unless we can catch a break here with the Bird Rights issue. A limited Coach, No Cap Space, No Good Picks and a mismatched roster. I'm praying for a miracle.

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5/22/2012  6:54 AM
We weren’t going anywhere and I was the coach.’’

The guy is not Pop. Pop adapts and MDA coach's to what he knows.

MDA did the right thing. If you can't get your players to play the way you want its over.

Melo is not a ball movmeent kind of player. He plays to his strength.

Is that wrong? Nope. Its what the boss (dolan) wanted. Its what Melo does best.

This is our team going forward.

I hope MDA lands somewhere and gets to put his motion offense in play and he succeeds with it. Just as long his interests don't conflict with ours. I was a fan of PHX when he was there. Im digging the Spurs run and hope they go all the way.

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5/22/2012  7:13 AM
Nalod wrote:
We weren’t going anywhere and I was the coach.’’

The guy is not Pop. Pop adapts and MDA coach's to what he knows.

MDA did the right thing. If you can't get your players to play the way you want its over.

Melo is not a ball movmeent kind of player. He plays to his strength.

Is that wrong? Nope. Its what the boss (dolan) wanted. Its what Melo does best.

This is our team going forward.

I hope MDA lands somewhere and gets to put his motion offense in play and he succeeds with it. Just as long his interests don't conflict with ours. I was a fan of PHX when he was there. Im digging the Spurs run and hope they go all the way.

exactly. Good coaches alter their approach to fit the players they have. Instead MD was trying to fit round pegs into triangular holes. He needs to go back overseas because the odds of him finding a squad that fits "his" coaching philosophy is unlikely. Lightning rarely strikes the same person twice as it did when he lucked out by getting Nash.

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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5/22/2012  7:40 AM
I think MDA will get 1 more shot. He's going to need a GM who buys into his philosphy and who will get MDA the players he needs to make the system work. I think MDA sits next year and gets his last shot the following year.
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5/22/2012  8:40 AM
DurzoBlint wrote:
Nalod wrote:
We weren’t going anywhere and I was the coach.’’

The guy is not Pop. Pop adapts and MDA coach's to what he knows.

MDA did the right thing. If you can't get your players to play the way you want its over.

Melo is not a ball movmeent kind of player. He plays to his strength.

Is that wrong? Nope. Its what the boss (dolan) wanted. Its what Melo does best.

This is our team going forward.

I hope MDA lands somewhere and gets to put his motion offense in play and he succeeds with it. Just as long his interests don't conflict with ours. I was a fan of PHX when he was there. Im digging the Spurs run and hope they go all the way.

exactly. Good coaches alter their approach to fit the players they have. Instead MD was trying to fit round pegs into triangular holes. He needs to go back overseas because the odds of him finding a squad that fits "his" coaching philosophy is unlikely. Lightning rarely strikes the same person twice as it did when he lucked out by getting Nash.

Yes, Good coaches adapt. Pop is a top talent and one of the few who has adapted.

He has a near trio of hall of fame players who were willing and able.

when you have the assets you can do this. MDA Did not.

While good coach's adapt, great ones really don't.

Riles claim to glory was a ready made team in the lakes and he took over showtime. that was not his to create so he is out of the arguement.

I look at Phil Jax and Red Auerbach. They were not good coaches. They were great. They did not adapt. They got the players to play in their system.

Larry Brown is a HOF coach and he does things his way.

MDA is not there of course but he might aspire to be. Can't fault a guy for trying. He tried and did not succeed. He had basically a new team every year.

Pop has a core of players who know and trust each other. They have a penetrating point and a big who is a very good passer. Popovitch has yet to win a championship with this newer ball movement system. It looks good. If he succeeds he will move into some rare company in 5 wins and with different looks.

YOu can adapt when you have the willing assets.

And it was time for MDA to leave.

Maybe one day he can succeed somewhere else.

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5/22/2012  12:12 PM
Nalod wrote:
Yes, Good coaches adapt. Pop is a top talent and one of the few who has adapted.

He has a near trio of hall of fame players who were willing and able.

when you have the assets you can do this. MDA Did not.

While good coach's adapt, great ones really don't.

Riles claim to glory was a ready made team in the lakes and he took over showtime. that was not his to create so he is out of the arguement.

I look at Phil Jax and Red Auerbach. They were not good coaches. They were great. They did not adapt. They got the players to play in their system.

Larry Brown is a HOF coach and he does things his way.

MDA is not there of course but he might aspire to be. Can't fault a guy for trying. He tried and did not succeed. He had basically a new team every year.

Pop has a core of players who know and trust each other. They have a penetrating point and a big who is a very good passer. Popovitch has yet to win a championship with this newer ball movement system. It looks good. If he succeeds he will move into some rare company in 5 wins and with different looks.

YOu can adapt when you have the willing assets.

And it was time for MDA to leave.

Maybe one day he can succeed somewhere else.


Riley took a Knicks team that was on the opposite end of the Showtime Lakers and nearly won it all. He took a Heat team with an aging Shaq, Dwyane Wade and a bunch of scrubs and washed up players and won. I dislike Riles as much as the next Knicks fan, but you gotta give the man his due.

Jax was constantly adopting the triangle to fit his players strengths. He went from a Jordan led system to a Shaq led system to a Kobe led system. He went from guys like John Paxons Horace Grant, to Rodman and Toni Kukoc, Ron Harper, Robert Horry and Samaki Walker to Pau Gasol and found ways to implement them all into his season. He was constantly adopting his triangle offense to fit the strengths of his players.

You mention Larry Brown, but the one title he one was with the team he had little involvement in building. I stil believe—to this day—that Rick Carlisle got a raw deal and he could have coached that team to the a title. I won't harp on this because we'll never know for sure.

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5/22/2012  12:19 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
Nalod wrote:
Yes, Good coaches adapt. Pop is a top talent and one of the few who has adapted.

He has a near trio of hall of fame players who were willing and able.

when you have the assets you can do this. MDA Did not.

While good coach's adapt, great ones really don't.

Riles claim to glory was a ready made team in the lakes and he took over showtime. that was not his to create so he is out of the arguement.

I look at Phil Jax and Red Auerbach. They were not good coaches. They were great. They did not adapt. They got the players to play in their system.

Larry Brown is a HOF coach and he does things his way.

MDA is not there of course but he might aspire to be. Can't fault a guy for trying. He tried and did not succeed. He had basically a new team every year.

Pop has a core of players who know and trust each other. They have a penetrating point and a big who is a very good passer. Popovitch has yet to win a championship with this newer ball movement system. It looks good. If he succeeds he will move into some rare company in 5 wins and with different looks.

YOu can adapt when you have the willing assets.

And it was time for MDA to leave.

Maybe one day he can succeed somewhere else.


Riley took a Knicks team that was on the opposite end of the Showtime Lakers and nearly won it all. He took a Heat team with an aging Shaq, Dwyane Wade and a bunch of scrubs and washed up players and won. I dislike Riles as much as the next Knicks fan, but you gotta give the man his due.

Jax was constantly adopting the triangle to fit his players strengths. He went from a Jordan led system to a Shaq led system to a Kobe led system. He went from guys like John Paxons Horace Grant, to Rodman and Toni Kukoc, Ron Harper, Robert Horry and Samaki Walker to Pau Gasol and found ways to implement them all into his season. He was constantly adopting his triangle offense to fit the strengths of his players.

You mention Larry Brown, but the one title he one was with the team he had little involvement in building. I stil believe—to this day—that Rick Carlisle got a raw deal and he could have coached that team to the a title. I won't harp on this because we'll never know for sure.

I wouldn't feel too bad for Rick, he's had a solid coaching career with Detroit and Indiana and finally won a title with Dallas last year.

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5/22/2012  12:22 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/22/2012  12:24 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
Nalod wrote:
Yes, Good coaches adapt. Pop is a top talent and one of the few who has adapted.

He has a near trio of hall of fame players who were willing and able.

when you have the assets you can do this. MDA Did not.

While good coach's adapt, great ones really don't.

Riles claim to glory was a ready made team in the lakes and he took over showtime. that was not his to create so he is out of the arguement.

I look at Phil Jax and Red Auerbach. They were not good coaches. They were great. They did not adapt. They got the players to play in their system.

Larry Brown is a HOF coach and he does things his way.

MDA is not there of course but he might aspire to be. Can't fault a guy for trying. He tried and did not succeed. He had basically a new team every year.

Pop has a core of players who know and trust each other. They have a penetrating point and a big who is a very good passer. Popovitch has yet to win a championship with this newer ball movement system. It looks good. If he succeeds he will move into some rare company in 5 wins and with different looks.

YOu can adapt when you have the willing assets.

And it was time for MDA to leave.

Maybe one day he can succeed somewhere else.


Riley took a Knicks team that was on the opposite end of the Showtime Lakers and nearly won it all. He took a Heat team with an aging Shaq, Dwyane Wade and a bunch of scrubs and washed up players and won. I dislike Riles as much as the next Knicks fan, but you gotta give the man his due.

Jax was constantly adopting the triangle to fit his players strengths. He went from a Jordan led system to a Shaq led system to a Kobe led system. He went from guys like John Paxons Horace Grant, to Rodman and Toni Kukoc, Ron Harper, Robert Horry and Samaki Walker to Pau Gasol and found ways to implement them all into his season. He was constantly adopting his triangle offense to fit the strengths of his players.

You mention Larry Brown, but the one title he one was with the team he had little involvement in building. I stil believe—to this day—that Rick Carlisle got a raw deal and he could have coached that team to the a title. I won't harp on this because we'll never know for sure.

RICK Carlisle got robbed for real. Guy gets canned after getting to the finals...that's when I decided Dumars wasn't as classy as his rep would lead you to believe and I still don't get how he still gets a pass for his piss poor management of that team.

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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5/22/2012  12:34 PM
DurzoBlint wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
Nalod wrote:
Yes, Good coaches adapt. Pop is a top talent and one of the few who has adapted.

He has a near trio of hall of fame players who were willing and able.

when you have the assets you can do this. MDA Did not.

While good coach's adapt, great ones really don't.

Riles claim to glory was a ready made team in the lakes and he took over showtime. that was not his to create so he is out of the arguement.

I look at Phil Jax and Red Auerbach. They were not good coaches. They were great. They did not adapt. They got the players to play in their system.

Larry Brown is a HOF coach and he does things his way.

MDA is not there of course but he might aspire to be. Can't fault a guy for trying. He tried and did not succeed. He had basically a new team every year.

Pop has a core of players who know and trust each other. They have a penetrating point and a big who is a very good passer. Popovitch has yet to win a championship with this newer ball movement system. It looks good. If he succeeds he will move into some rare company in 5 wins and with different looks.

YOu can adapt when you have the willing assets.

And it was time for MDA to leave.

Maybe one day he can succeed somewhere else.


Riley took a Knicks team that was on the opposite end of the Showtime Lakers and nearly won it all. He took a Heat team with an aging Shaq, Dwyane Wade and a bunch of scrubs and washed up players and won. I dislike Riles as much as the next Knicks fan, but you gotta give the man his due.

Jax was constantly adopting the triangle to fit his players strengths. He went from a Jordan led system to a Shaq led system to a Kobe led system. He went from guys like John Paxons Horace Grant, to Rodman and Toni Kukoc, Ron Harper, Robert Horry and Samaki Walker to Pau Gasol and found ways to implement them all into his season. He was constantly adopting his triangle offense to fit the strengths of his players.

You mention Larry Brown, but the one title he one was with the team he had little involvement in building. I stil believe—to this day—that Rick Carlisle got a raw deal and he could have coached that team to the a title. I won't harp on this because we'll never know for sure.

RICK Carlisle got robbed for real. Guy gets canned after getting to the finals...that's when I decided Dumars wasn't as classy as his rep would lead you to believe and I still don't get how he still gets a pass for his piss poor management of that team.

Carlisle got to the finals with Detroit? Alcohol has clearly deteriorated my brain but I don't remember that happening. Am I getting your post correctly?

I remember his Detroit teams getting killing in the East Finals. Twice. And that his veteran heavy team complaining that his communications style was hurting the team.

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5/22/2012  12:47 PM
oopsy on my part. I double checked and you are correct (unlike some here, ^yourself not included, I can admit to being dead wrong.) Kind of embarrassing how far off I was but, then I went from memory which, isn't what it used to be. Weed is a hell of a drug
the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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5/22/2012  12:55 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/22/2012  1:02 PM
Think about Carlisle for a moment.

You want to hire a guy BEFORE they win a chip right? I mean really we all want a guy that just won and thinking that is what we need?

Carlisle had a good career in indy and Detroit then took over a very good Dallas team. A team galvanized with leadership.

So one might say Ricks history of near success in his first two gigs made him more educated to handle the top job in Dallas.

Joe Torre was not a HOF manger with the mets or ATL. Then he got the Yankee gig. He got better thru experience.

Woodson was Larry Browns top assistant under Larry Brown in Detroit. He has a ring. He was there.

His teams in ATL got better each year.

Here I go again defending our coach.

He is a solid pick. Not a starphuch. Getting Carlisle is a starphuch!

Why? Cuz he already has a job (carlisle)and Im gonna guess few of you know what he is about other than he "Won".

For that matter, MDA was a starphuch. We hired a man, paid him a lot of money thinking he could do his magic in NY like he did in PHX and really never philosophically supported him with the proper personal.

We do this over and over again.

If we were to bring in Jax, would we fully support his blueprint with success? If not, then it would be a bad fit.

Is Woodson the best choice? I don't know. But he did a good job, his stars bought in, Management can control him because he is not in a position of power as was larry and MDA was coming form the outside and he has the Isiah seal of approval. He is a good soldier and went with CAA.

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5/22/2012  2:05 PM
Listen, it’s really hard to get on Mike’s case for the job that he did here. No coach in the entire league had a tougher job. Remember we were going to go to the playoffs with Zach, Jamal and Lee in his first season then they broke up the team on him and made a number of trades that didn’t work out Mobley, Larry Hughes etc. Then Walsh made a terrible selection in Jordan Hill bypassing Lawson, Jennings, Holiday and leaving the team weak at the guard spot. When he finally got the team that he wanted the Knicks gut the entire team in order to bring in Melo and a largely inefficient Chancey Billups. Then the team retains Billups in one of the stupidest moves all season long to bring in chandler and turn the team over to the worst starting guard rotation in the NBA.

Please tell me how you can be successful as a coach with that much turnover?
Pop might be one of the greatest coaches of all time, but when you have a complimentary HOF nucleus and the best executive in all of sports running the show it’s much easier to look good.

Again, like it’s always said it’s about getting the right star, not just a star. Amare can’t play defense, Chandler is one of the worst offensive players in the game and Melo is all isolation all the time. We the Knicks bought in the ball was constantly moving, players were getting easy baskets, but our guy is concerned with his stats not with the team game. So if you want to put that one the coach it’s fine. But, when the chips were down Melo ball looks great in the stat sheet, but not the win column.

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5/22/2012  2:11 PM
MS wrote:Listen, it’s really hard to get on Mike’s case for the job that he did here. No coach in the entire league had a tougher job. Remember we were going to go to the playoffs with Zach, Jamal and Lee in his first season then they broke up the team on him and made a number of trades that didn’t work out Mobley, Larry Hughes etc. Then Walsh made a terrible selection in Jordan Hill bypassing Lawson, Jennings, Holiday and leaving the team weak at the guard spot. When he finally got the team that he wanted the Knicks gut the entire team in order to bring in Melo and a largely inefficient Chancey Billups. Then the team retains Billups in one of the stupidest moves all season long to bring in chandler and turn the team over to the worst starting guard rotation in the NBA.

Please tell me how you can be successful as a coach with that much turnover?
Pop might be one of the greatest coaches of all time, but when you have a complimentary HOF nucleus and the best executive in all of sports running the show it’s much easier to look good.

Again, like it’s always said it’s about getting the right star, not just a star. Amare can’t play defense, Chandler is one of the worst offensive players in the game and Melo is all isolation all the time. We the Knicks bought in the ball was constantly moving, players were getting easy baskets, but our guy is concerned with his stats not with the team game. So if you want to put that one the coach it’s fine. But, when the chips were down Melo ball looks great in the stat sheet, but not the win column.

Makes you wonder how Woodson managed to go 18-6 playing Melo ball. Stop with the excuses, Woodson did a much better job with the same roster than MDA did. It took MDA 42 games to win 18, Woodson won 18 in 24 games....

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5/22/2012  2:11 PM
Any Legend coach (MDA) whom QUIT on NY
a storied franchise like Knicks and stayed in Pajamas for whole month

To me spells that man, his brother Dan D' and rest of coaches whom left ALL need some mental physician help

Pajamas'? 1 month ?
ya gotta be kidding us !

D'antoni 1 month in Pajamas
http://larrybrownsports.com/basketball/mike-dantoni-pajamas-resigning/136949

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5/22/2012  2:16 PM
Uptown wrote:
MS wrote:Listen, it’s really hard to get on Mike’s case for the job that he did here. No coach in the entire league had a tougher job. Remember we were going to go to the playoffs with Zach, Jamal and Lee in his first season then they broke up the team on him and made a number of trades that didn’t work out Mobley, Larry Hughes etc. Then Walsh made a terrible selection in Jordan Hill bypassing Lawson, Jennings, Holiday and leaving the team weak at the guard spot. When he finally got the team that he wanted the Knicks gut the entire team in order to bring in Melo and a largely inefficient Chancey Billups. Then the team retains Billups in one of the stupidest moves all season long to bring in chandler and turn the team over to the worst starting guard rotation in the NBA.

Please tell me how you can be successful as a coach with that much turnover?
Pop might be one of the greatest coaches of all time, but when you have a complimentary HOF nucleus and the best executive in all of sports running the show it’s much easier to look good.

Again, like it’s always said it’s about getting the right star, not just a star. Amare can’t play defense, Chandler is one of the worst offensive players in the game and Melo is all isolation all the time. We the Knicks bought in the ball was constantly moving, players were getting easy baskets, but our guy is concerned with his stats not with the team game. So if you want to put that one the coach it’s fine. But, when the chips were down Melo ball looks great in the stat sheet, but not the win column.

Makes you wonder how Woodson managed to go 18-6 playing Melo ball. Stop with the excuses, Woodson did a much better job with the same roster than MDA did. It took MDA 42 games to win 18, Woodson won 18 in 24 games....

because Woodson did not try to force them to play a style they were unsuited for but, instead tweaked and slowed the offense to fit the players. That was my major Beef with MD, his stubborn refusal to adapt to his players. As for Iso-Melo, that started when we lost our one decent point guard...Lin.
Davis was a shell of himself, unable to even get to the rim and Bibby looks like that 1930's Dracula and for the most part played like he was over 100yrs old.

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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5/22/2012  2:44 PM
And if you were somehow able to write forthrightly...

Best line in the whole article. The scum journalist's creed, in black and white.

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5/22/2012  2:50 PM
DJMUSIC wrote:Any Legend coach (MDA) whom QUIT on NY
a storied franchise like Knicks and stayed in Pajamas for whole month

To me spells that man, his brother Dan D' and rest of coaches whom left ALL need some mental physician help

Pajamas'? 1 month ?
ya gotta be kidding us !

D'antoni 1 month in Pajamas
http://larrybrownsports.com/basketball/mike-dantoni-pajamas-resigning/136949

read the SI article..............

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