Actually id say marbury is playing better as of late

Marbury can 'own' absolutely any PG in the league. The only reason Kidd is better is because he can setup people so well. Marbury will get there very soon.

Posted by TRU:

Posted by Silverfuel:

Marbury can 'own' absolutely any PG in the league. The only reason Kidd is better is because he can setup people so well. Marbury will get there very soon.

Don't forget those two Conference Titles.

Dog, even Howard Eisley could throw an extra two assists per game if he had all those Gazelles they have over there across the river. The Nets run a layup drill. Easier to rack up assists that way than passing to Dekembe.

[Edited by - TRU on 03/08/2004 19:57:40]

yup..imagine trying to get assists with kurt thomas (pray he is making his flat footed mid range set shot), shandon cant make a layup anderson, mutumbo-enough said. houston of course is the exception.

kidd has a machine in k-mart and jefferson--kittles is a damn good 4th option to have.

still kidd is the best playmaker in the league.

Lets put it this way, Kidd is almost 4 years older than marbury, I would say at 26(since marbury just turned 27 the other week) marbury is better than kid was at this age..... What seperates marbury from kidd is that steph is a premier scorer who can also dish just as well...

Posted by daddynel:

kidd, the best play maker hands down. marbury, the better player all around. i'm not just saying that because he's the man. not just because he's a fellow crooklynite. i'm saying that because of the way we all know he can play as an individual, and due to the fact that he seems to be a completely different player since joining the knicks. better numbers, alot less athletesism to work with.

The only question is, if me and you were at the courts, and you had first pick, who would you take? I'm with you, Daddy. Marb's gives you a slightly better chance to win, I think.

No fool, Tim Duncan(big man) is why those guys can be so freakin good in meanigful games. That's why I would have sold the house for Rasheed Wallace instead of starbury and took my gamble with Nazr and Rasheed FW instead of NAZR AND KT Starbury.

Marbury is a better athlete and offensive force individually. If they were race car drivers, I would say Kidd is better at "driving the car" more effiecently.

Marbury and Kidd are both superior guards, but its a little apples and oranges type players. Kidd cannot shoot like marbury, but steph can't see things like Kidd.

Stats are not applicable here.

Kidd is a kind of unique player--- he breaks the mold of a traditional PG because his game is so versatile. He's so good that it's tough comparing all other PGs in the NBA to him (exactly why people often say it's like apples to oranges). People ultimately use Magic Johnson. Kidd's teams tend to have a whole bunch of scores in the mid-teens gradually going down the list, since the ball gets spread around so much.

Marbury's mold is more clearcut--- names like Tim Hardaway, Isiah Thomas, Kevin Johnson immediately pop into my head, PGs who shoot a lot and control the ball, with 20-10 type of numbers. With Marbury and those other guys, you expect them to lead their teams in scoring more often than not, with a great divide between the leading scorers to the supporting cast.

But yeah, what it comes down to (as many have stated already), they're different types of players. Both are statistically excellent. Kidd's main weakness is his career FG%, low for an otherwise complete player. Marbury is outstanding statistically up and down the line.

Yet somehow we consider Kidd a better player--- it might have to do with the subtle things he does on the floor, how we perceive him moving the ball around and by watching his teammates seemingly have fun. Maybe it's the two or three fantastic passes he makes in a game.

There's not as much smooth flow in Marbury's game--- but so much of his game is him coming in and controlling the rock... too often he's the only guy that ever touches the ball.

J Kidd is the most competitive player I've seen since MJ. He gets to loose balls most player wouldn't even try for. I have no idea how he comes up with half the rebounds or steals he gets. You'll see him driving to the hole full speed, 1 on 2, and it looks like a turnover waiting to happen, and he'll somehow get up a good shot. He leads his team by force of will. It's inspring to play with a guy like that and demoralizing to play against one.

Steph has more game. He's quicker. Better hops. Better J. Better D. Probably even a better ballhandler. And he plays to win as much as your typical superstar. But Kidd's competitiveness is very rare, and, in my view, it makes him more valuable than Steph.

Still, if you offered me Kidd for Steph today, wouldn't take the trade. If Kidd's better, it's not by a lot -- not 4 years better.