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fishmike
Posts: 53841 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
4/27/2012 10:25 AM
being at work I dont know what that video is. Is it Melo pouting?
 "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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RoyBatty
Posts: 20181 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 4/20/2011 Member: #3531 |
4/27/2012 10:28 AM
ChuckBuck wrote:fishmike wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:oh good to know... I remember being pissed when Weber shot 9-27 in that loss to Orlando, or when DAntoni shot 5-14 in that loss to Cle.fishmike wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:Yea those 24 losses from the previous regime did indeed cost them higher seeding, but let's let that go because we're in for a major dog fight with the biggest bullies on the block. If we can just split the first 2 games, we can make this a grind it out dogfight. BEAT THE HEAT! BEAT THE HEAT!previous regime? Did we make a huge midseason trade? I thought it was the same group of players. I remember screaming at my TV throughout that whole play "foul, foul" and my two kids running straight to their mom, genuinely scared. That was the game that broke the camel's back for me with Pringles. |
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crzymdups
Posts: 52018 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/1/2004 Member: #671 USA |
4/27/2012 10:59 AM
fishmike wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:oh good to know... I remember being pissed when Weber shot 9-27 in that loss to Orlando, or when DAntoni shot 5-14 in that loss to Cle.fishmike wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:Yea those 24 losses from the previous regime did indeed cost them higher seeding, but let's let that go because we're in for a major dog fight with the biggest bullies on the block. If we can just split the first 2 games, we can make this a grind it out dogfight. BEAT THE HEAT! BEAT THE HEAT!previous regime? Did we make a huge midseason trade? I thought it was the same group of players. are you seriously telling me you didn't notice a difference in strategy? yes, melo's effort level is one thing. but the coaching was a major upgrade. the strategy was designed to actually fit the talent on the roster. MDA did a horrible job. a big part of his job is getting melo and amar'e to buy in and to design a scheme that uses his talent to the best of their ability. he did neither. why bother defending him. ¿ △ ?
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gunsnewing
Posts: 55076 Alba Posts: 5 Joined: 2/24/2002 Member: #215 USA |
4/27/2012 12:17 PM
Endydee wrote: However, the game that stands out the most for me is the win that turned into a loss versus the Celtics. The game where the Knicks had the lead late and lost it due to poor coaching by MDA. The game where they allowed the Celtics to advance the ball rolled up to half court uncontested, and not running the clock down, and then not fouling on top of it allowing the Celtics more time to get that game tying 3 pointer by Pierce. Thats the game that sealed the deal on Dantoni for me and ended our chances of overtaking Boston and winning the division |
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IrishKnickFan
Posts: 23223 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/30/2012 Member: #4171 |
4/27/2012 2:19 PM
If you think about it most of our losses came from bad teams this year. Even though that doesn;t make me feel good it does show that we play weel when we face good competition. Even though we lost to teh heat in teh regular season we played them hard and also played them never at full strength
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Moonangie
Posts: 24766 Alba Posts: 5 Joined: 7/9/2009 Member: #2788 |
4/27/2012 3:00 PM
fishmike wrote:we can beat the Heat? I have never wanted to be more wrong, but we were getting swept in this series and I bet we are outscored by an average of 8. It will be like Megamind vs. Metro man. The Heat will win some games, and we will almost win some others. Wow, did you drink some of Anubis'KoolAid or somethin? Where's the optimistic, positive, can do version of Fishmike? We might not win the series...but swept? You selling the fellas short on pride IMO. We will win at least one game and maybe the series if our shooters get hot. It gwine be a coming out party for Shump, mark my words. |
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fishmike
Posts: 53841 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
4/27/2012 3:08 PM
crzymdups wrote:I will always defend a coach when a player's effort is involved. MDA failed with Melo. Tried point forward, tried playing off the ball... it didnt work and it cost him his job. I have no problem with that. Its the nature of the business. But when I have brought up Melo's previous playoff failures the most common excuse is unfavorable matchups. All Im saying is who's fault is that this year? Did MDA do a good job? No. Is Woodson better? For this team 100% yes. But once again we have another scape goat dont we?fishmike wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:oh good to know... I remember being pissed when Weber shot 9-27 in that loss to Orlando, or when DAntoni shot 5-14 in that loss to Cle.fishmike wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:Yea those 24 losses from the previous regime did indeed cost them higher seeding, but let's let that go because we're in for a major dog fight with the biggest bullies on the block. If we can just split the first 2 games, we can make this a grind it out dogfight. BEAT THE HEAT! BEAT THE HEAT!previous regime? Did we make a huge midseason trade? I thought it was the same group of players. My point is simple. Knicks are 7th because of the players. Too many poor efforts that cost us games. Im happy with the direction of the team and the roster and the coach. We are lucky to have good players. I like every guy on our roster. But if we get swept its not because of a bad matchup. Its because we had guys mail it in costing us games in the standings. Fair? Unfair? "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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y2zipper
Posts: 20946 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/30/2010 Member: #3287 |
4/27/2012 3:23 PM
fishmike wrote:crzymdups wrote:I will always defend a coach when a player's effort is involved. MDA failed with Melo. Tried point forward, tried playing off the ball... it didnt work and it cost him his job. I have no problem with that. Its the nature of the business. But when I have brought up Melo's previous playoff failures the most common excuse is unfavorable matchups. All Im saying is who's fault is that this year? Did MDA do a good job? No. Is Woodson better? For this team 100% yes. But once again we have another scape goat dont we?fishmike wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:oh good to know... I remember being pissed when Weber shot 9-27 in that loss to Orlando, or when DAntoni shot 5-14 in that loss to Cle.fishmike wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:Yea those 24 losses from the previous regime did indeed cost them higher seeding, but let's let that go because we're in for a major dog fight with the biggest bullies on the block. If we can just split the first 2 games, we can make this a grind it out dogfight. BEAT THE HEAT! BEAT THE HEAT!previous regime? Did we make a huge midseason trade? I thought it was the same group of players. That's a fair point. The Knicks were unable to take advantage of an easy schedule at the beginning of the year and that point remains the same whether you want to scapegoat Mike D'Antoni or scapegoat the players. This current incarnation of the team is going to have to beat Miami or Chicago at some point, but it'd be nice to be 100% healthy going into the playoffs for once. Carmelo in his career hasn't been a much different player in the playoffs than he is in the regular season. I understand he hasn't played on a team that's won a title, but he did get to the WCF when he played on a team that had a roster that's up-to-par. This year, he doesn't have that crutch to fall back on even though Lin's hurt and the Heat are an unfavorable matchup. I'm more afraid that Mike Woodson's going to be judged on what happens here, and I don't think that's particularly fair. |