Or does the mere mention of Carmelo sound like a dog whistle to your tin ear?

Think about it... how different is, "Go win a series" from "Just Win Baby"?

So MarburyCross is asking for something specific. Even if Melo plays well, and they lose the 1st series, Mature Melo would have reverted to the same ineffective Melo as he always has been in the NBA.

misterearl wrote:“When I’m messing up, he tells me. Even when he got the job, I told him, ‘Just hold me accountable,’ Anthony said. “If I’m doing something that he doesn’t like, just tell me.

One does not survive West Baltimore with thin skin. Maturity

“Regardless, I don’t have a problem with criticism. If I can do something to help better this team, let me know. And he’s been doing that.”

I thought Melo handled the intense media scrutiny about as well as any rational person could expect, which a tangent to the quoted

misterearl wrote:The Defense Attorney

nehemiah wrote:The difference between "Just Win Baby" (which is very general) and "Go Win A Series" (specific) is actually pretty big. Most people see themselves as winners (no doubt Melo) even though they may not win anything specific. In fact, we could finish below .500, possibly be out of the playoffs or losing badly in the 1st round, and if someone were to ask Melo "Are you a winner?" -- no doubt he'll say yes.

Who died and made you the mouthpiece for MarburyAnd1? "Most people see themselves as winners"? WhachootalkinboutWillis?

The amount of inference over what Carmelo would say after losing a playoff series is staggering.

nehemiah wrote:So MarburyCross is asking for something specific. Even if Melo plays well, and they lose the 1st series, Mature Melo would have reverted to the same ineffective Melo as he always has been in the NBA.

In other words, if the Knicks lose, it will all due to Carmelo.

I get it.

it's just more of his hyperbole

I genuinely believe that Melo really wanted a strong head figure and MDA wasn't providing that stregth. Think of the guys he's played for. Boeheim, Karl, Coach K in the olympics. I think Melo's problem was that nothing was clicking for the team and he was getting frustrated because the coach wasn't fixing it. Maybe vociing displeasure or showing that frustration was the most leadership any one had given in the last month.

It's only been 3 games and this is all moot if these guys revert back to the way they were playing before. But what's done is done. I'm of the opinion that Melo desperately wants to win. He just has to have that burning desire within him for the rest of his career. That passion to win and do whatever it takes so far is what's seperated him from guys like Kobe, LeBron, Wade, Dirk, etc....

MSG3 wrote:I'm not naive enough to think everything was all rosey with Melo and MDA. But before last season with the trade hanging over Denvers head, how many times was Melo perceived as a bad locker room guy or a coach killer?

I genuinely believe that Melo really wanted a strong head figure and MDA wasn't providing that stregth. Think of the guys he's played for. Boeheim, Karl, Coach K in the olympics. I think Melo's problem was that nothing was clicking for the team and he was getting frustrated because the coach wasn't fixing it. Maybe vociing displeasure or showing that frustration was the most leadership any one had given in the last month.

It's only been 3 games and this is all moot if these guys revert back to the way they were playing before. But what's done is done. I'm of the opinion that Melo desperately wants to win. He just has to have that burning desire within him for the rest of his career. That passion to win and do whatever it takes so far is what's seperated him from guys like Kobe, LeBron, Wade, Dirk, etc....

well I think that's it... Melo strikes me as an intense personality and Pringles a happy-go-lucky type. I'd probably rather have beers with Pringles and would bet Melo would say the same. But this is about a player/coach relationship and Melo/Woody seem like more of personality fit

Listen, I know its only been a couple games, but so far, he has been doing what he Woodson and he should have been doing the whole time Dantoni wanted him to do.
Melo lost faith in his team, and wanted to try something else, when he felt Dantoni system wasn't working and we didn't have shooters to spread the floor.
But Woodson seems to finally get it right, PLAY DEFENSE, REBOUND, BOX OUT, and move the ball to the open man for the shot.
I don't mind Melo or anyone hoisting what they feel is their best look when there is not much time in the shot clock.
I think the team needed a new voice, some tweaks, some adjustments (which Dantoni has done a horrible job at), and running some more set plays.

Dantoni's system of calling out rare plays doesn't work well with players that don't move well off the ball, cutters, and players without high IQ.
He has never used Amare, TC, and even Melo *after the Linsanity streak* for post position.
I know Amare and TC are not good post players and doesn't have any post moves, but they still need to utilize that post presence regardless.
Dantoni also has a horrible job of rotating players, while Woodson is willing to sit anyone down early, to utilize our bench.
This helps with fatigue and lowers chances of injury while Dantoni over plays his players and gasses them out/increasing chances of injury.

Lets see what happens during these last 21 games...

RonRon wrote:I was against the trade and I always thought Melo was a BIG stat whore.

RonRon - the trade was dictated by Dolan as much as Carmelo.

What is a stat whore?