gunsnewing wrote:

loweyecue wrote:Firing the coach has a 5-10 game swing. You can see this throughout history.

More reason why I was calling for Dantoni's head after losing 9 of 10 before Linsanity happened or before the boston game & stupid Philly & Chicago game when it was evident he lost the team during this 6 game losing steak

Impeccable reasoning

nixluva wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

loweyecue wrote:Firing the coach has a 5-10 game swing. You can see this throughout history.

More reason why I was calling for Dantoni's head after losing 9 of 10 before Linsanity happened or before the boston game & stupid Philly & Chicago game when it was evident he lost the team during this 6 game losing steak

MDA didn't lose the team. The team was fractured by the fight between Melo and MDA. Not to mention the lack of effort by STAT. The biggest reason that this team has looked so good last 2 games is that the starters never got this kind of effort from STAT and Melo until MDA left and then all of a sudden they knew that their excuse was gone. How could they go out and not play hard now? It would only expose them as the source of the problem, which it still did, cuz we can see that they clearly could've always played this hard.

STAT and Melo as we've been saying before MDA left were the major culprits in the team losing. Ever since they both came back neither guy has really put in Max Effort. STAT due to laziness and Melo due to being selfish. Now magically they're playing hard??? Come on!!!

Get your nose out of MDA's ass. If a coach fails to properly utilize the top 2 players on his team he deserves what he gets. His lack of emphasis on the defensive side of the ball is also a major liability. He dug his own grave and then decided to lay in it!

nixluva wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

loweyecue wrote:Firing the coach has a 5-10 game swing. You can see this throughout history.

More reason why I was calling for Dantoni's head after losing 9 of 10 before Linsanity happened or before the boston game & stupid Philly & Chicago game when it was evident he lost the team during this 6 game losing steak

MDA didn't lose the team. The team was fractured by the fight between Melo and MDA. Not to mention the lack of effort by STAT. The biggest reason that this team has looked so good last 2 games is that the starters never got this kind of effort from STAT and Melo until MDA left and then all of a sudden they knew that their excuse was gone. How could they go out and not play hard now? It would only expose them as the source of the problem, which it still did, cuz we can see that they clearly could've always played this hard.

STAT and Melo as we've been saying before MDA left were the major culprits in the team losing. Ever since they both came back neither guy has really put in Max Effort. STAT due to laziness and Melo due to being selfish. Now magically they're playing hard??? Come on!!!

Logic will get you nowhere.

Oh I can't wait for - the team started winning because we changed the coach, so it must be the coaching threads.

These last two games more than anything proved that Melo's sulking and Amare's lack of leadership and their willingness to use MDA as a cop out is what killed the chemistry in the team.

Once the NY media focuses on building a library of faults for Woodson based on conjecture and speculation from BS tweets by players and other "sources", this pattern of behaviour by our "all stars" will return quickly.

gunsnewing wrote:So are we rooting for the Knicks to win or lose?

They win and Knick fans are truly excited about this team or they lose and Dantoni's reputation is salvaged and the I told you so people come out of the woodwork?

Way to change the subject. No one is rooting for the team to lose. We are expressing our opinion of why the team is winning and that it has nothing to do with the new coach. In my opinion this will not last for long, because of the same reasons Linsanity didn't last. Melo will go into sulk mode and the team will again suffer because of it. We can keep hiring and firing coaches and ignoring the problem.

gunsnewing wrote:I see what you're saying I'm not crazy about Melo the person either but I don't see it getting as ugly as it did in the past. They may lose tonight but it won't be because of lack of effort

Oh I don't think it will happen right away. I think we are safe for a 5-10 game window effort-wise. Then we hit a 3 game skid and the media goes on a witch hunt. Melo will revert to full sulk mode.

nixluva wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

loweyecue wrote:Firing the coach has a 5-10 game swing. You can see this throughout history.

More reason why I was calling for Dantoni's head after losing 9 of 10 before Linsanity happened or before the boston game & stupid Philly & Chicago game when it was evident he lost the team during this 6 game losing steak

MDA didn't lose the team. The team was fractured by the fight between Melo and MDA. Not to mention the lack of effort by STAT. The biggest reason that this team has looked so good last 2 games is that the starters never got this kind of effort from STAT and Melo until MDA left and then all of a sudden they knew that their excuse was gone. How could they go out and not play hard now? It would only expose them as the source of the problem, which it still did, cuz we can see that they clearly could've always played this hard.

STAT and Melo as we've been saying before MDA left were the major culprits in the team losing. Ever since they both came back neither guy has really put in Max Effort. STAT due to laziness and Melo due to being selfish. Now magically they're playing hard??? Come on!!!

The team being fractured is the very definition of a coach losing the team. The coash is the general...he commands and the team follows....pretty simple. When all the players are not on the same page that falls back on the coach. When a team likes a coach personally but starts to tune him out the coach has lost the team. When players don't like that their coach won't put a player on blast but prefers to pull the player to the side it's a problem. When players won't play hard it falls on the coach.

STAT hasn't been lazy, he's been out of shape. He lost some weight and is playing better and looks like he picked up a step. Melo is far from perfect but as a player how do you give max effort for a coach who doesn't want you?

At the end of the day Melo is the franchise whether people like it or not. MDA is gone and the Knicks new season started 2 games ago. Let's go Knicks!!!

loweyecue wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:So are we rooting for the Knicks to win or lose?

They win and Knick fans are truly excited about this team or they lose and Dantoni's reputation is salvaged and the I told you so people come out of the woodwork?

Way to change the subject. No one is rooting for the team to lose. We are expressing our opinion of why the team is winning and that it has nothing to do with the new coach. In my opinion this will not last for long, because of the same reasons Linsanity didn't last. Melo will go into sulk mode and the team will again suffer because of it. We can keep hiring and firing coaches and ignoring the problem.

So, let's see how long the good play lasts, and when its over, bam- we bring in a new coach. Then when they stop playing good for new guy, bam - we fire his ass too. We just have to get the timing right, so that we go into the playoffs with a brand new coach and a brand new winning streak.