Will Melo be the player we all hope he is - A franchise player who can lead us to the promised land, or will Melo simply continue to be a talented offensive player and nothing more?

He wanted the bright lights of NYC and the pressure that comes along with it and it's all his. It's now time for him to deliver. Personally, I don't think we've seen the best of what Melo has to offer and I hope I'm right. I hope I'm right for my own sanity as well for all of us die hard Knicks fans who have dealt with nothing more than pure BS for the better part of a decade.

Will he deliver or do we prepare for Marbury 2.0? I say he delivers, what do you guys think?

Baron Davis
JR Smith or Iman
Melo
Amare
TC

then return LinSanity back off the bench and see who plays better, and to finish games.

with

Lin
JR/Iman
Fields/Novak
Novak/JJ
JJ/Josh

STAT has always been a more efficient scorer than Melo and he should get a ton of touches. Melo is not an efficient scorer and he is not a good team defender. That's where the bench and Jared will come in. It was their defensive energy that caused the winning and allowed Lin to do what he was doing despite all his TO's.

HugeKnick4 wrote:I think we will see an initial uptick in the performance of Melo, Stat and the Knicks. What will be telling is how we close the year and how we start next year.

I agree. The close will be important, but next season will really lay it all out for The People to see.

Sure enough:

The Nuggets had two options. On the one hand they could hope Nene got healthy, reverted to his old form and played well. On the other, they could have waited and if he didn’t get healthy they would be stuck with a broken down, over 30 player with a virtually untradable contract (an issue New York will be dealing with shortly)

nixluva wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

nixluva wrote:STAT was improving already before the resignation of MDA. We were due to get Jared back which makes a huge diff on D. This team could go ona run, but it won't be because MDA quit or Melo beasted. It will be because we got back to playing tough D as we were when we won during Linsanity. It was about D then and it still is now. Melo's only real value IMO was in his clutch shooting in tight situations. I really felt that way from the get go.

STAT has always been a more efficient scorer than Melo and he should get a ton of touches. Melo is not an efficient scorer and he is not a good team defender. That's where the bench and Jared will come in. It was their defensive energy that caused the winning and allowed Lin to do what he was doing despite all his TO's.

Your website states that Amare was extremely inefficient last year. And, Melo was much better:

http://wagesofwins.com/2012/01/18/is-melo-mad-that-amare-stole-his-playbook/

So you think one instance makes up for the fact that STAT is in the upper echelon of ALL TIME most efficient NBA Stars?

Did you even watch the games at all last year. MOST of the problems STAT had was Felton struggling to figure out the system and to get in synch with STAT on the PnR. Felton was horrid and it forced STAT to have to force his offense against triple teams more than he ever had to before. This wasn't a case of STAT just being who he was, but more that he was trying to do too much to make up for the teams flaws. Melo actually is that guy and has been for his career. Let's not try and twist the truth here.

STAT somewhat did the same thing his last year in PHX where he carried the team and forced the issue more than he had to do before when the team was better around him. Melo does his act out of selfishness more than out of necessity. There's a difference.

So you are blaming Stats inefficiencies on the system last year? Ok. I can see how that can mess up a good player. Point taken.

CrushAlot wrote:

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:We must be careful to take into consideration the strong surge in motivation players will often experience following a coaching change.

The same thing happens sometimes when a star player goes down.

True. Like how the Bulls seem to play everytime DRose go down. They can actually look like a better team without him. But, we all know how great he is and can see through the temptation to be a shallow thinker.

nixluva wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

nixluva wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

nixluva wrote:STAT was improving already before the resignation of MDA. We were due to get Jared back which makes a huge diff on D. This team could go ona run, but it won't be because MDA quit or Melo beasted. It will be because we got back to playing tough D as we were when we won during Linsanity. It was about D then and it still is now. Melo's only real value IMO was in his clutch shooting in tight situations. I really felt that way from the get go.

STAT has always been a more efficient scorer than Melo and he should get a ton of touches. Melo is not an efficient scorer and he is not a good team defender. That's where the bench and Jared will come in. It was their defensive energy that caused the winning and allowed Lin to do what he was doing despite all his TO's.

Your website states that Amare was extremely inefficient last year. And, Melo was much better:

http://wagesofwins.com/2012/01/18/is-melo-mad-that-amare-stole-his-playbook/

So you think one instance makes up for the fact that STAT is in the upper echelon of ALL TIME most efficient NBA Stars?

Did you even watch the games at all last year. MOST of the problems STAT had was Felton struggling to figure out the system and to get in synch with STAT on the PnR. Felton was horrid and it forced STAT to have to force his offense against triple teams more than he ever had to before. This wasn't a case of STAT just being who he was, but more that he was trying to do too much to make up for the teams flaws. Melo actually is that guy and has been for his career. Let's not try and twist the truth here.

STAT somewhat did the same thing his last year in PHX where he carried the team and forced the issue more than he had to do before when the team was better around him. Melo does his act out of selfishness more than out of necessity. There's a difference.

So you are blaming Stats inefficiencies on the system last year? Ok. I can see how that can mess up a good player. Point taken.

No that's not what I was saying at all. I don't even know where you'd get such an idea except for your bias against the coach. The team was struggling around him. We had kids like Fields and Moz trying to figure things out and as usual all the pieces weren't in synch. Once they got it going things improved, but it still wasn't perfect and the damage was already done to STAT's statistics. The point is that STAT for his career has been a very team oriented and efficient player working within the offense. Melo doesn't have that same reputation.

I am not biased against the coach, I could actually care less about him or Melo. Ship them both cause they both sucked this year. I have very few alliances aside from my wife and kids.

I am biased against you and your bias for MDA and anyone and anything that threatens that view. That is the only reason that I enjoy this. I am an attorney and love picking at (high level) flawed arguments. And your arguments are so biased that it can be comical sometimes. I also find it interesting how some people can get so entrenched in sports/role models/idols that it can cloud their judgements and run their minds.

MDA and MELO both suck and they can both go. Don't care about either. Could not care for Stat either and he can go too. Give me the less talented coaches and players who have heart. And, if we lose with them, at least we can respect them. JVG came out of nowhere but he had heart and NY loves heart. and, He did not think he was better or smarter than the system - he could care less. He just wanted to win by any means - without the need for people to say how great he was.

I loved Linsanity because he was an underdog, has heart and displays it on the floor. He is not the self indulgent athlete that the media creates with time.

Patrick Ewing had heart but he did not play above the expectation that he came out of college with and that always bothered me a bit, though, I respect him as a man and a player.

A NY TIMES article stating that you need to dig deeper than simply looking at advanced stats when judging Carmelo Anthony and that he is the ultimate team player (just continuing your trend of digging deeper than stats)

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/15/why-carmelo-anthony-is-the-ultimate-team-player-and-what-advanced-stats-miss-about-him/?ref=sports

Be a centrist who can pick a position because you believe in it, not because it will line up with your pre-existing condition.

Bonn1997 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

nixluva wrote:STAT was improving already before the resignation of MDA. We were due to get Jared back which makes a huge diff on D. This team could go ona run, but it won't be because MDA quit or Melo beasted. It will be because we got back to playing tough D as we were when we won during Linsanity. It was about D then and it still is now. Melo's only real value IMO was in his clutch shooting in tight situations. I really felt that way from the get go.

STAT has always been a more efficient scorer than Melo and he should get a ton of touches. Melo is not an efficient scorer and he is not a good team defender. That's where the bench and Jared will come in. It was their defensive energy that caused the winning and allowed Lin to do what he was doing despite all his TO's.

Your website states that Amare was extremely inefficient last year. And, Melo was much better:

http://wagesofwins.com/2012/01/18/is-melo-mad-that-amare-stole-his-playbook/

It was a tale of two seasons for Amare: the first half where he was outstanding and the second half where he was very bad (which brought all of his overall stats down)

Yeah. Thats possible - but I'm sure that can be said for many players and many stat years.

I was just making a point.

You can't say that the system affected his stats and Felton was terrible until he figured it out and this and that ... and then say that Melo who had TD, Bibby, Shump running the point had a bad year and he's a schmuck because of it.

He might be a schmuck and that argument is BS and it probably is, but then stay away from the double standard by giving amare a pass with the same pre-packaged excuses.

My take? No excuses for anyone. Everyone is accountable or you are done.

People don't even think for a few minutes to see if what they are say contradicts everything else they are saying.