misterearl wrote:Irony

During his last two seasons in Atlanta, Mike Woodson had the task of managing a petulant Josh Smith. Smith wanted to play his way and Woodson wanted more discipline. Smith loved to hoist three point shots and gave inconsistent effort on defense. Smith's playing personality led to several public confrontations where Woodson got in Smith's face. Josh Smith took it very personally.

He did his best with a flawed roster that featured three redundant forwards. Like D'Antoni, Woodson was the one who had to go.

Fast forward to the deepest roster (in his words) Woodson has ever coached. He KNOWS he holds minutes as precious commodities and will enforce the prime directive.

You Suck. You Sit.

The fact Woodson emphasizes holding players accountable is music to my ears as well.

Been awhile since we heard that word thrown around here...thinking positively for this home at home, hopefully we can win both and catapult us going forward.

crzymdups wrote:accountability is good. and may have been missing from MDA's approach. though he was a lameduck coach, with his best three players all on 4yr deals. Woodson has nothing to lose, so less pressure.

hopefully it all adds up to the knicks making a big run.

One cool thing about Woodson in Atlanta, he played no favorites. He would sit anyone in a heartbeat. If they sulked, tough.

He made certain his message was delivered.

You will never hear Mike Woodson give a cute or clever response to a question.

nixluva wrote:He's not as respected as I'm sure he'd like to be.

Woodson's days in Detroit, under Larry Brown, were the foundation for his coaching principles.

The Hawks made incremental improvement in the win column every year he was coach. They were simply too immature, and too poorly constructed, to win in the playoffs.

Woodson is respected. Having played in New York he knows how the game works.

misterearl wrote:Straight Talk

crzymdups wrote:accountability is good. and may have been missing from MDA's approach. though he was a lameduck coach, with his best three players all on 4yr deals. Woodson has nothing to lose, so less pressure.

hopefully it all adds up to the knicks making a big run.

One cool thing about Woodson in Atlanta, he played no favorites. He would sit anyone in a heartbeat. If they sulked, tough.

He made certain his message was delivered.

You will never hear Mike Woodson give a cute or clever response to a question.

Great points, Earl. Love the idea of holding players (all players) accountable. Seems like players will also get defined roles, and defense may be on the top of the priority list. Hey, he's from the school of Bobby Knight BB.

misterearl wrote:Irony

During his last two seasons in Atlanta, Mike Woodson had the task of managing a petulant Josh Smith. Smith wanted to play his way and Woodson wanted more discipline. Smith loved to hoist three point shots and gave inconsistent effort on defense. Smith's playing personality led to several public confrontations where Woodson got in Smith's face. Josh Smith took it very personally.

He did his best with a flawed roster that featured three redundant forwards. Like D'Antoni, Woodson was the one who had to go.

Fast forward to the deepest roster (in his words) Woodson has ever coached. He KNOWS he holds minutes as precious commodities and will enforce the prime directive.

You Suck. You Sit.

The fact Woodson emphasizes holding players accountable is music to my ears as well.

Yep

That includes the allstars being held accountable and responsible

Some significant thing that Mike D'Antoni did not have the GUTs or Intestinal fortitude to do...
Sometimes a player OR a team will respect you more when you get up in their face like a MAN and make them man-up
tell them what to do and learn what to do.

Mike had an issue with that thus perceived as soft with Stars/Allstars is really reason whole league loved
MDA as a person which is perception of fans and media.

In any job or profession you cannot be soft at times and some decisions of confrontations are difficult but must be made.

Its like your kids, times you can talk to them or preach other time you need to yell the crap of fear of lord into them
to get whats the right thing to do.

These are things guys like George Karl , Popovich or Phil Jackson is like which made them SOB's but respected throughout NBA
sportsworld much more than methods of Mike D'Antoni a good coach whom wasnt yet to be a great coach at this present time

Anji wrote:I'm getty tonight with all the whole team showing tonight. It could be a one game thing, but i'll worry about that next game.

I loved how people got the ball to our scorers and weren't running something hoping that the other team reacts or some magical cut happens. It was like, Felton is on Amare........get Amare the ball. Hay Jr hit a couple of shoots, LET"S RUN A PLAY FOR JR!

Im all flushed in the face............ I will need to burn off this energy to go to sleep to night!!!

You do realize that they were just running the offense they've had all year. What do you think they would do considering D'Antoni ran practice today and it's all the team knows??? I hope guys around here don't start ascribing the results of this game to anything special Woodson did, just as they shouldn't kill him if the team had lost. What this team does from here on out is mostly going to be a function of the players fully buying in and giving max effort and not so much about X's and O's. Woodson is the same guy everyone ragged on for not have any kind of offensive creativity. He was captain ISO.

It's not like they ran a ton of ISO's for Melo and changed things up. This was basically the same darned plays. They just executed and hit shots!!! The key was the commitment to effort that hadn't always been there for 48 mins. Go and look at Melo's shot chart and see if you can find some major shift in what he did. People got excited cuz Tyson had a post up. While I do think Woodson will look to implement more of his ideas, we need to be patient with him and see how that all works.

misterearl wrote:Piece Of Cake

crzymdups wrote:as will the jeremy lin / baron davis debate. because, believe me, that debate is coming. soon.

Q. Reporter: "Mike, what is your take on the Knicks point guard "controversy"?

A. Woodson: (looking straight into the camera), "The guy who is playing better will get the most minutes"

i like that idea. let's see it happen in real time.