Without getting into a debate on what type of job he's done, I just have a simple question for the supporters:

What would it take for you to turn around and end your support of MDA?

In other words, can there be a point between now and the end of the season where you admit that he has not done the job and should be replaced?

Or, if we continue to flounder, will it still not be MDA's fault, and he'll deserve to return next season?

Your confusing "support" with the "recognizing the problem"

When I see the Phoenix Suns come to the garden and exploit our middle-school-esque switch every pick down the stretch to beat us, I question the coach. Nash called for PNR everytime during the last 3-4 mins of the game and Douglas switched to guard Lopez/Gorcin in the paint while Chandler switched to guard Nash. Two mismatches for the Suns to exploit and not one timeout, not one change of gameplan to try and 'Win the Game'. Instances like that make me question the coach.

When I see the Celts run PNR and exploit our guards Lin and Shump switching to guard him and Pierce scores every single time while our caoch does nothing to change this, then I question the coach.

When we grab a rebound vs. the Celts up by 1 with 19 seconds left and we call timeout, while the Celts dont have any timeouts, I question the coach. Calling that timeout gave the Celts a chance to set up that last play to free Pierce for the 3 (They knew the Knicks would switch and Pierce would get a clean look vs a smaller defender.) Thus, I question the coach. Dont even get me started on fouling before Pierce can get the shot off. But as MDA says, "Thats not how we do things." Really?! Things like what? Playing to win instead of being stubborn.

When other teams adjust to Lin and begin trapping him and forcing him left, and still we run the same exact play with no minor tweaks, or counters I question the coach.

On the rare ocasions when we dont run pick-n-roll and guys stand around, i question the coach.....

Theres more, but thats it for now....

fishmike wrote:when Melo shoots 2-12 and pouts on the sidelines do you say DAMN... we gotta get a new coach????

Your confusing "support" with the "recognizing the problem"

fish - I think you do because unless we're already trading melo, as a coach, you have to be able to work with all your players- not just your personal favorites.

I think this is the problem with this coach- he only likes the players that get his system. The ones that are a bit denser and don't get it, it just doesn't seem like he wants to put the work in to try to get something positive to happen with the player.

franco12 wrote:

fishmike wrote:when Melo shoots 2-12 and pouts on the sidelines do you say DAMN... we gotta get a new coach????

Your confusing "support" with the "recognizing the problem"

fish - I think you do because unless we're already trading melo, as a coach, you have to be able to work with all your players- not just your personal favorites.

I think this is the problem with this coach- he only likes the players that get his system. The ones that are a bit denser and don't get it, it just doesn't seem like he wants to put the work in to try to get something positive to happen with the player.

Even though I disagree, it’s very difficult to be on Melo’s side when he is getting outplayed by the Kawi Leonard of the world.

KnicksFE wrote:

franco12 wrote:

fishmike wrote:when Melo shoots 2-12 and pouts on the sidelines do you say DAMN... we gotta get a new coach????

Your confusing "support" with the "recognizing the problem"

fish - I think you do because unless we're already trading melo, as a coach, you have to be able to work with all your players- not just your personal favorites.

I think this is the problem with this coach- he only likes the players that get his system. The ones that are a bit denser and don't get it, it just doesn't seem like he wants to put the work in to try to get something positive to happen with the player.

Even though I disagree, it’s very difficult to be on Melo’s side when he is getting outplayed by the Kawi Leonard of the world.

I was against bringing Melo here at the price we paid.

And I'm not necessarily on his side, and for all I know, he may be truly like Marbury - hopeless- and MDA may have done everything humanly possible to work with him.

eViL wrote:

franco12 wrote:

KnicksFE wrote:

franco12 wrote:

fishmike wrote:when Melo shoots 2-12 and pouts on the sidelines do you say DAMN... we gotta get a new coach????

Your confusing "support" with the "recognizing the problem"

fish - I think you do because unless we're already trading melo, as a coach, you have to be able to work with all your players- not just your personal favorites.

I think this is the problem with this coach- he only likes the players that get his system. The ones that are a bit denser and don't get it, it just doesn't seem like he wants to put the work in to try to get something positive to happen with the player.

Even though I disagree, it’s very difficult to be on Melo’s side when he is getting outplayed by the Kawi Leonard of the world.

I was against bringing Melo here at the price we paid.

And I'm not necessarily on his side, and for all I know, he may be truly like Marbury - hopeless- and MDA may have done everything humanly possible to work with him.

my big issue is that i don't feel like he's being asked to do something extraordinary. this shouldn't take some major coaching breakthrough. just DON'T POUND THE ROCK RELENTLESSLY.

contrary to what some people here thing, "catch and shoot" is not some magical bball ability. it's a basic skill. if you catch the ball, and the play is not there, move it and move yourself, and the ball will make it's way back to you if it's the right play.

i don't know why i feel like it's so obvious to me that they are not executing. how many different ways can you tell someone to stop doing something they've been doing forever. we don't need a coach to cater to Melo's habitual isolation. we need Melo to recognize that his ISO skills are better utilized in key situations and not as a first option.

amen

skeng wrote:

eViL wrote:

franco12 wrote:

KnicksFE wrote:

franco12 wrote:

fishmike wrote:when Melo shoots 2-12 and pouts on the sidelines do you say DAMN... we gotta get a new coach????

Your confusing "support" with the "recognizing the problem"

fish - I think you do because unless we're already trading melo, as a coach, you have to be able to work with all your players- not just your personal favorites.

I think this is the problem with this coach- he only likes the players that get his system. The ones that are a bit denser and don't get it, it just doesn't seem like he wants to put the work in to try to get something positive to happen with the player.

Even though I disagree, it’s very difficult to be on Melo’s side when he is getting outplayed by the Kawi Leonard of the world.

I was against bringing Melo here at the price we paid.

And I'm not necessarily on his side, and for all I know, he may be truly like Marbury - hopeless- and MDA may have done everything humanly possible to work with him.

my big issue is that i don't feel like he's being asked to do something extraordinary. this shouldn't take some major coaching breakthrough. just DON'T POUND THE ROCK RELENTLESSLY.

contrary to what some people here thing, "catch and shoot" is not some magical bball ability. it's a basic skill. if you catch the ball, and the play is not there, move it and move yourself, and the ball will make it's way back to you if it's the right play.

i don't know why i feel like it's so obvious to me that they are not executing. how many different ways can you tell someone to stop doing something they've been doing forever. we don't need a coach to cater to Melo's habitual isolation. we need Melo to recognize that his ISO skills are better utilized in key situations and not as a first option.

amen

Melo had issues with Karl and if u think about it if Melo had bought in maybe they get to more than one WCF! We now got to see what MDA BB looks like minus MELO. It's up to Melo to not change as much as become a BETTER player! To play a more efficient game!!! That's all MDA is trying to show him. Why should we get rid of the coach when he had our scrubs winning by actually listening and executing and playing as a team???

nixluva wrote:For years they said MDA didn't care about D and blamed him for the Suns being a mediocre defensive team. The thing is that he had Nash and STAT up the middle of his D! STAT and MDA had a falling out in PHX and it was about DEFENSE!!! MDA wanted STAT to play harder!!! Later STAT blamed his lack of D on MDA to everyone who would listen. Now we know better. MDA got to the WCF's without STAT!!! never forget that.

Melo had issues with Karl and if u think about it if Melo had bought in maybe they get to more than one WCF! We now got to see what MDA BB looks like minus MELO. It's up to Melo to not change as much as become a BETTER player! To play a more efficient game!!! That's all MDA is trying to show him. Why should we get rid of the coach when he had our scrubs winning by actually listening and executing and playing as a team???

I think people forget that we probably should have went into the tank there. I mean no one was saying "Hey let's get rid of Melo and Amare so we can run off 7 in a row." The team goes off with reserves leading the way and it all got overshadowed by Linsanity. (No fault of Lins. He was crediting teammates and coaches.) That the team came out sprited and fought out all those games says a lot for the coach. There were some tough games to pull out in that stretch. They came back against both the TWolves and Raptors late in games when it would have been status quo for the team to give up. Coach has to get some credit for that.