6. Who's the worst couple of the past 12 months — Sammi and Ronnie, Kim and Kris, or Carmelo and Amar'e?

Kim and Kris. It's no contest. By the way, I'm not willing to write off the Carmelo/Amar'e pairing yet — even if it's been a ball-stopping, disjointed, shoulder-sagging mess so far — until we see how they look with a competent point guard running the show. By writing them off just from what we've seen, you are basically saying, "Point guards don't matter." That's wrong. They matter more than any other position in 2012. So let's at least see what kind of effect Baron Davis (and hopefully not Baron Davis' love handles and herniated disc) have on this Knicks team before we make a final assessment. I mean, did you really think "Carmelo Anthony, point forward" was going to work? Or that Iman Shumpert was the answer? Come on. Give this a few more weeks.

(Has that stopped me from sending "Congrats on watching Spencer Haywood/Bob McAdoo 2.0!" jokes to my Knick fan buddies? Of course not!)

Look, it's not rocket science: Any basketball game is going to be more entertaining with competent-or-better point guards running the show. (Cut to Knicks and Lakers fans nodding.) Without the right point guard, you won't get fast break points or easy baskets (cut to Knicks and Lakers fans nodding), you won't have good ball movement (cut to Knicks and Lakers fans nodding), it's harder to get your post guys the ball in the right spots (cut to Knicks and Lakers fans nodding), and you might have to rely on one perimeter player shooting 25 to 30 times a game while everyone else stands around (cut to Knicks and Lakers fans nodding vigorously while fighting off tears). More point guards = more fun.10

and, no, i don't expect too many responses to this one since it's not calling to "throw out everyone" or whatever.

Knixkik wrote:I'm glad he addresses the major concerns of a PG and the combination of our 2 stars. People here are way too impatient and quick to say Melo is just an inefficient scorer and Amare is over the hill. Why can't everyone just see the real issues and how direct the solutions are and how they directly impact one another? You are right, there will be very little response to this because it is positive and many "fans" have already jumped off the ledge.

i think the big issue is guard play on this team. and i actually agree with those who say baron can't solve it all. it's true. if you look at the good teams in the league right now, it's the teams with great guard play.

look at the clippers, they've got chris paul, sure, but they have billups and mo williams and randy foye, all of whom would be our starting pg right now coming off the bench. and they're working in eric bledsoe just back from an injury. and you know what? they don't have too many guards! they wear teams down, running fresh guards at them.

same in philly with jrue holiday, lou williams, evan turner, jodie meeks, etc. same in okc with westbrook, harden, maynor, reggie jackson, and cook. same thing in denver. same thing in portland. same thing with minnesota, even.

you need guards in this league. and the teams with a LOT of guards are playing really well right now.

that's why i'd make JR Smith and getting Baron healthy a priority. if we have a quality rotation of guards, they'll be able to make our frontcourt that much more effective. i'd also seriously investigate adding mike james, unless J Lin is gonna keep getting minutes, which i'd be okay with.

Knicksfan wrote:Baron in a week (or more, lets see how the plot develops).

Lin stays. Bibby is cut in favor of JR/Martin. Reverse order and the Knicks don't know what they are doing.

Agressively pursue a trade for a backup PG. Make Douglas and the low gang available. Consider Fields ONLY for the right player, especially if JR is signed.

Win.

Uptown wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Knicksfan wrote:Baron in a week (or more, lets see how the plot develops).

Lin stays. Bibby is cut in favor of JR/Martin. Reverse order and the Knicks don't know what they are doing.

Agressively pursue a trade for a backup PG. Make Douglas and the low gang available. Consider Fields ONLY for the right player, especially if JR is signed.

Win.

You realize how desperate and sad all of this would sound to an objective outsider (someone who isn't a Knicks fan)?

You mean a non-Knick fan like Bill Simmons?!

loweyecue wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Uptown wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Knicksfan wrote:Baron in a week (or more, lets see how the plot develops).

Lin stays. Bibby is cut in favor of JR/Martin. Reverse order and the Knicks don't know what they are doing.

Agressively pursue a trade for a backup PG. Make Douglas and the low gang available. Consider Fields ONLY for the right player, especially if JR is signed.

Win.

You realize how desperate and sad all of this would sound to an objective outsider (someone who isn't a Knicks fan)?

You mean a non-Knick fan like Bill Simmons?!

My guess is even Bill Simmons would say that hoping for JR Smith to turn the season around is desperate.

Sad? Yes. Desperate? Definitely. But it is still a plan build on a reasonable premise. When you do t have starting caliber guards on your active roster it's both sad and desperate but you need to then plan on getting some by any means available.

I would much rather see us doing that than tanking for some stupid lottery.

risks of the lottery:
look who the houston rockets just didn't pick up options on: jordan hill, hasheem thabeet, jonny flynn and terrance williams (picks 8, 2, 6, 11 in 2009)

yeah tanking sounds like a much more sound option!

Bonn1997 wrote:

Knicksfan wrote:Baron in a week (or more, lets see how the plot develops).

Lin stays. Bibby is cut in favor of JR/Martin. Reverse order and the Knicks don't know what they are doing.

Agressively pursue a trade for a backup PG. Make Douglas and the low gang available. Consider Fields ONLY for the right player, especially if JR is signed.

Win.

You realize how desperate and sad all of this would sound to an objective outsider (someone who isn't a Knicks fan)?

The point of this thread is that the Knicks should see what they look like with Baron... to an objective outsider. And actually, Simmons hates the Knicks even more than you and he knows basketball, so he might be worth listening to.

Bonn1997 wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Knicksfan wrote:Baron in a week (or more, lets see how the plot develops).

Lin stays. Bibby is cut in favor of JR/Martin. Reverse order and the Knicks don't know what they are doing.

Agressively pursue a trade for a backup PG. Make Douglas and the low gang available. Consider Fields ONLY for the right player, especially if JR is signed.

Win.

You realize how desperate and sad all of this would sound to an objective outsider (someone who isn't a Knicks fan)?

The point of this thread is that the Knicks should see what they look like with Baron... to an objective outsider. And actually, Simmons hates the Knicks even more than you and he knows basketball, so he might be worth listening to.

You can't distinguish between hating the Knicks (not me and likely no one here) and hating the starphucking course of the Knicks this and last decade (me and several others here)? Are you just being a troll or do you really not understand the distinction?

pretty sure out of the two of you, crzy isn't the one being a troll.