Nalod wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Anywhere but the Knicks bench. I was a big fan of his went he ended his playing career here but I haven't seen anything he has done since then that would warrant him staying on as long as he has other than being Dolan's good side.
This is always a weird argument for me. How can anyone who is not in practice tell what a coach has or has not done to influence player development.
And for my money's worth, players always seem to do best in the offseason, exactly when coaches are not around.
The Knicks record and poor low post play since he has been here.
Coached Dlee in to a double-double machine.
Extra "E" into a starter in the NBA.
Kept Eddy from dying
Had to put up with Isiah
Had to put up with Marbles
Turned minor league Mozgov into an NBA big man who starts
Kept Jerome James from dying
All his work exclusive to him? OF course not. But he has been on the staff.
who ever worked with Moz did a hell of a job.
If we are going to credit him with his helping Lee get double doubles which I strongly believe was inflated as far as rebounding. Lee would drop back from his defender to grab a board, shouldn't we also blame him for being one of the worst defensive big men out there?
The best game I saw Mosgov play was against the Knicks, not with them. He had some bright spots but he spent a good part of his time here on the bench because he played so poorly. I like Moz but I think his turnaround had more to do with being comfortable playing in the league. We saw what he did against our "dream team" in international competition.
The other stuff with Curry, JJ, and Marbury, Isiah, I'll give you that earned every cent of his paycheck for having to see them day in and day out but not much else. I don't hate the guy, far from it, Herb is a class act, but I want to see more merit based hires, and from what I see I don't believe he has been enough of a factor to keep staying on with each new coach. I just don't see it.
Maybe Martin is right and Herb is doing things behind the scenes that we don't know about, I just don't see much of it on the floor. They hired Mark Aguirre as a big man coach, if Herb was all that I don't believe that would have been necessary.