we have a degenerate offense with no movement. we haven't had a PG this season yet I have seen no development in this offense in 15 GAMES. D'Antoni is content with iso. Melo is content with chucking. And our shooters (except Harrelson) are content with bricking their three's.

ship this guy out. no more wasting damn time.

martin wrote:

airchibundo507 wrote:no more excuses. no waiting for baron davis.

we have a degenerate offense with no movement. we haven't had a PG this season yet I have seen no development in this offense in 15 GAMES. D'Antoni is content with iso. Melo is content with chucking. And our shooters (except Harrelson) are content with bricking their three's.

ship this guy out. no more wasting damn time.

if your shooters can't make a basket and Melo decides to do ISO, what do you suggest to change it to?

We fall behind every game, come out lethargic, the give effort in spurts as if they are not listening to him. Its time for a new voice.

Uptown wrote:

martin wrote:

airchibundo507 wrote:no more excuses. no waiting for baron davis.

we have a degenerate offense with no movement. we haven't had a PG this season yet I have seen no development in this offense in 15 GAMES. D'Antoni is content with iso. Melo is content with chucking. And our shooters (except Harrelson) are content with bricking their three's.

ship this guy out. no more wasting damn time.

if your shooters can't make a basket and Melo decides to do ISO, what do you suggest to change it to?

We fall behind every game, come out lethargic, the give effort in spurts as if they are not listening to him. Its time for a new voice.

don't disagree there. Amare looks cooked, Melo does his own thing and Fields, TD are much less than they were last year. Knicks traded a lot of heart from last year that seemed to be buying into whatever the team was trying to run.

Game by game, Losing streak to losing streak, and season by season, it has become evident the only reason he was highly regarded as an offensive genius was because of his 2 time MVP, Steve Nash. It has become clearly obvious Mike D'antoni's impact on that offense and that team's success was extremely minimal.

The SSOL system, the pace, the demand of players having an ability to shoot, the tempo, etc.

Move on Mike. We've all come to realize you are a phony. You can't fool New York anymore.

When the grass is cut, the snakes will show.

martin wrote:

airchibundo507 wrote:no more excuses. no waiting for baron davis.

we have a degenerate offense with no movement. we haven't had a PG this season yet I have seen no development in this offense in 15 GAMES. D'Antoni is content with iso. Melo is content with chucking. And our shooters (except Harrelson) are content with bricking their three's.

ship this guy out. no more wasting damn time.

if your shooters can't make a basket and Melo decides to do ISO, what do you suggest to change it to?

airchibundo507 wrote:

martin wrote:

airchibundo507 wrote:

martin wrote:

airchibundo507 wrote:no more excuses. no waiting for baron davis.

we have a degenerate offense with no movement. we haven't had a PG this season yet I have seen no development in this offense in 15 GAMES. D'Antoni is content with iso. Melo is content with chucking. And our shooters (except Harrelson) are content with bricking their three's.

ship this guy out. no more wasting damn time.

if your shooters can't make a basket and Melo decides to do ISO, what do you suggest to change it to?

landry/melo/shumpert curls around off-ball screens at the elbow
chandler sets a backscreen for amare/melo right under the basket to get them good post position
shumpert/melo pick-and-roll
backdoor cuts
landry/shumpert give ball to Melo at elbow, who functions as a diversion, hands the ball to them, and let them get to the bucket

there at least needs to be initial movement before Melo settles into isolation/facilitation

teams just camp in the paint cause we got nothing to spread the floor. And we got no PG to run the team to make all of the above happen.

you DON'T need a PG to have an offense. look at derek fisher in the triangle.

harrelson can shoot. bibby/douglas/walker/fields/shumpert can shoot every once in a blue moon. file through them to see who can shoot on a particular night.

if it's crunch time, I'd probably take Amare off the court for certain stretches to get optimal spacing.

triangle is about the only offense I can think where you don't really need a decent PG to direct offense, but you overlook the fact that what made the triagle possible was having the best passing SG in the league with a high level elite big man in the post.

Look at the triangle when it was in run in Minnesota; it was a failure.

Pointing out Derek Fisher doesn't get you over the argument.

CrushAlot wrote:

martin wrote:

airchibundo507 wrote:no more excuses. no waiting for baron davis.

we have a degenerate offense with no movement. we haven't had a PG this season yet I have seen no development in this offense in 15 GAMES. D'Antoni is content with iso. Melo is content with chucking. And our shooters (except Harrelson) are content with bricking their three's.

ship this guy out. no more wasting damn time.

if your shooters can't make a basket and Melo decides to do ISO, what do you suggest to change it to?

I think management may be moving on. I think D'Antoni is given the year but unlike Walsh, Grunwald is building the team the way he thinks it will be successful and not to make D'Antoni successful. That sucks if you are a system coach and your gm is putting you in a position where your system can't be effective.
Trading for Tyson and leaving only Toney, Iman and Bibby at the point was a definite disregard for the coach's system. If D'Antoni is Grunwald's guy I think he does everything he can to position himself to get Paul next year. He went for a center which is a major piece for any competing team but in the process he put his coach in a position where he couldn't do what he is successful at doing.

MDA was on board for Tyson. Amar'e and Melo looked much better last season with Billups than now without a true PG. If he was so confident in TD or Bibby or Shump being able to hold the front at PG, then he has part of the blame for the roster. It is evident this isn't Phoenix East, but if you can't even take this talent to beat teams that are also beating themselves up, then you aren't doing your job.

martin wrote:

airchibundo507 wrote:

martin wrote:

airchibundo507 wrote:

martin wrote:

airchibundo507 wrote:no more excuses. no waiting for baron davis.

we have a degenerate offense with no movement. we haven't had a PG this season yet I have seen no development in this offense in 15 GAMES. D'Antoni is content with iso. Melo is content with chucking. And our shooters (except Harrelson) are content with bricking their three's.

ship this guy out. no more wasting damn time.

if your shooters can't make a basket and Melo decides to do ISO, what do you suggest to change it to?

landry/melo/shumpert curls around off-ball screens at the elbow
chandler sets a backscreen for amare/melo right under the basket to get them good post position
shumpert/melo pick-and-roll
backdoor cuts
landry/shumpert give ball to Melo at elbow, who functions as a diversion, hands the ball to them, and let them get to the bucket

there at least needs to be initial movement before Melo settles into isolation/facilitation

teams just camp in the paint cause we got nothing to spread the floor. And we got no PG to run the team to make all of the above happen.

you DON'T need a PG to have an offense. look at derek fisher in the triangle.

harrelson can shoot. bibby/douglas/walker/fields/shumpert can shoot every once in a blue moon. file through them to see who can shoot on a particular night.

if it's crunch time, I'd probably take Amare off the court for certain stretches to get optimal spacing.

triangle is about the only offense I can think where you don't really need a decent PG to direct offense, but you overlook the fact that what made the triagle possible was having the best passing SG in the league with a high level elite big man in the post.

Look at the triangle when it was in run in Minnesota; it was a failure.

Pointing out Derek Fisher doesn't get you over the argument.

one person doesn't make an offense, I'm sorry. an offense with screens creates open looks, and it doesn't take a Nash to make the open pass. Does Durant NEED an elite playmaker to him with a jumper off a curl? it is a simple pass, bro.