ChuckBuck wrote:They must be jumping out the window by now.

I think this is what they are saying...

"Lebron is an overpaid bum who cant finish games. Cant believe we cut Michael "Beast" Beasly for LeBum. Send him back to Cleve and give us Beasley back. Rather lose with homegrown talent than get to the finals and choke with LeBum!"

"Bosh is soft. We should have signed Amare instead. Amare was an MVP candidate in NY last yr. But unfortunatelty for us, NY fans would never want to part-ways with Amare..."

"Wade is injury prone and cant be counted on for a full season. The only reason he won a championship is because we had Shaq. We need to think about resigning Shaq, seriously because he sounds tuuuurible on TNT. Wonder if Mourning is availble. Bring back Tim Hardaway!!!"

"Cole is a bum. So what he won that 1 game for us! And so what he's a rookie who's only played 11-12 games and hardly had any practice times. And so what we picked him end of the first round. He should be beasting everygame. Trade his A## for Bibby, we need his shooting back. Lets get NY on the phone. They are the only organization dumb enough to trade the vet sharp-shooting Bibby for the bum rookie with zero potential, HA, HA, HA!"

"Somethings wrong with Lebron James- he's completely lost his athleticism"

"just have patience until Mike Miller gets back- he'll solve all our problems!"

Uptown wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:They must be jumping out the window by now.

I think this is what they are saying...

"Lebron is an overpaid bum who cant finish games. Cant believe we cut Michael "Beast" Beasly for LeBum. Send him back to Cleve and give us Beasley back. Rather lose with homegrown talent than get to the finals and choke with LeBum!"

"Bosh is soft. We should have signed Amare instead. Amare was an MVP candidate in NY last yr. But unfortunatelty for us, NY fans would never want to part-ways with Amare..."

"Wade is injury prone and cant be counted on for a full season. The only reason he won a championship is because we had Shaq. We need to think about resigning Shaq, seriously because he sounds tuuuurible on TNT. Wonder if Mourning is availble. Bring back Tim Hardaway!!!"

"Cole is a bum. So what he won that 1 game for us! And so what he's a rookie who's only played 11-12 games and hardly had any practice times. And so what we picked him end of the first round. He should be beasting everygame. Trade his A## for Bibby, we need his shooting back. Lets get NY on the phone. They are the only organization dumb enough to trade the vet sharp-shooting Bibby for the bum rookie with zero potential, HA, HA, HA!"

Post of the year!

No comparison to us.

colombian0725 wrote:You think losing 3 straight games on the road is just something for the NBA to talk about?! Are you crazy or just a total, complete moron?! The team has played DISGRACEFUL in the fourth quarter. They lead the league in turnovers and it took 12 games for LeBron to make his first 3-pointer of the season! The Heat was caught standing around, asleep on several occasions while the Nuggets blew past them for easy baskets. And I won't even talk about their perimeter defense! WHAT A JOKE!! This team had better stop reading their own hype and start playing basketball the same way that got them off to an 8-1 start. If they continue playing like this, they won't even MAKE it to the playoffs!

http://heat.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5700037552/m/7381053136

They can't keep playing the way they started, too risky and increases the risk of injury. If Wade gets injured, style of play wont matter they are not doing anything in the playoffs without him.

RonRon wrote:TOP TIER ALL STARS
=====================================================================================
Dwade, Lebron, Dwight Howard, Derrick Rose, Westbrook, Durant

TOP LEGIT PGs, that facilitate, without use of size/athleticism
================================================================
CP3, Deron, Rubio *probably too early to put him here, but hes not really a rookie either played a lot of years as a pro in Europe*

Between All Stars - Stars
==========================
Dirk, Aldridge, Kobe, Blake Griffen, Love, Carmelo

STARS, players with holes in their games but can be considered A+ players on many nights
=========================================================================================
Monta Ellis, Amare, Bosh, Ginobili, Rudy Gay, Granger, Matt Gasol

Top Centers with Legit Size in the League, RBs, DEF, BL, POST game
=====================================================================================
Bynum, Marc Gasol, Noah, Tyson Chandler, Deandre Jordan, Hibbert

Aged All Stars-Stars, that can still produce at a high level
===============================================================
Duncan, KG, Ray Allen, Nash, Terry, Pierce, Billups, Stephen Jackson, Marion, Kidd, Andre Miller, Jamison

B+ veterans, some still have some upside
========================================
Jefferson, Nene, Boozer, David Lee, Joe Johnson, Josh Smith, Al Horford, Beasley, Deng, Rhondo, AI, Bargnani, Scola, Gerald Wallace, Kevin Martin, Tony Parker, Millsap, Butler, West
Jason Richardson, Jameer Nelson, Turkeglu

B to B- Stars, with possible ceilings of All Star one day, some with untapped potential, still students of the game, with room for improvement
===============================================================================================================================================
Curry, Favors, Jennings, Derozan, Tyreke Evans, Brook Lopez, Gallo, Harden, Irving, Eric Gordon, Wall, Holiday, Kemba, Iman, Cousins, Knight

Better than role players but not "stars"
=========================================
Ibaka, Ryan Anderson, Varejo, Dalembert, Gortac, McGee, Wilson Chandler, Devin Harris, Jarret Jack, Greg Monroe, Lowry, Mike Conley, Calderon, Darren Collison, Stuckey

This is my list, strictly my opinions of the league. To me, to be considered on the top of the list...

1) You MUST be capable of being great on both ends of the court.
2) those guys have bodies, athleticism, and physical talents that CANNOT be taught.
3) Absolute STUDs, you would start a franchise with, if you had the 1st pick to rebuild TODAY, for the future of the franchise.
4) These guys have NBA bodies that would be considered FREAKISH, with chances of injuries being greatly lowered, considered DOMINANT, work ethic

Carmelo is a great player, but he is not the same league as Lebron or Wade. I believe he is however, in a league greater than Amare. His defense isn't as bad as Amare's, he will have problem guarding shooters, as we saw with Gay yesterday. We need to stop playing ISO basketball on a consistent basis. I think we relied on playing this style of ISO, even when Melo went out yesterday. Last year when Melo went out, we stepped up with some ball movement and TD stepped it up with Shawne Williams and Turiaf. When Amare went out this year, we played back with great ball movement, however, Kings and Thunder are completely different levels. Regardless, I think we have to make use of what we have and try to use what we have.
Ball movement, movement without the ball, picks, back screens, and GOOD SHOTS. We officially don't have a single post option, which would help good 3point shots. We do not have the shooters and ball movement we had last year, to spread the floor. We can not take 3pointers, when we do not have the looks, and it will be tough. We can not just chuck 3point shots, that is not SSOL, Our defense will have to step it up as Durant, WestBrook, and Harden will give us trouble with the athleticism of Ibaka.

+1

colombian0725 wrote:

RonRon wrote:TOP TIER ALL STARS
=====================================================================================
Dwade, Lebron, Dwight Howard, Derrick Rose, Westbrook, Durant

TOP LEGIT PGs, that facilitate, without use of size/athleticism
================================================================
CP3, Deron, Rubio *probably too early to put him here, but hes not really a rookie either played a lot of years as a pro in Europe*

Between All Stars - Stars
==========================
Dirk, Aldridge, Kobe, Blake Griffen, Love, Carmelo

STARS, players with holes in their games but can be considered A+ players on many nights
=========================================================================================
Monta Ellis, Amare, Bosh, Ginobili, Rudy Gay, Granger, Matt Gasol

Top Centers with Legit Size in the League, RBs, DEF, BL, POST game
=====================================================================================
Bynum, Marc Gasol, Noah, Tyson Chandler, Deandre Jordan, Hibbert

Aged All Stars-Stars, that can still produce at a high level
===============================================================
Duncan, KG, Ray Allen, Nash, Terry, Pierce, Billups, Stephen Jackson, Marion, Kidd, Andre Miller, Jamison

B+ veterans, some still have some upside
========================================
Jefferson, Nene, Boozer, David Lee, Joe Johnson, Josh Smith, Al Horford, Beasley, Deng, Rhondo, AI, Bargnani, Scola, Gerald Wallace, Kevin Martin, Tony Parker, Millsap, Butler, West
Jason Richardson, Jameer Nelson, Turkeglu

B to B- Stars, with possible ceilings of All Star one day, some with untapped potential, still students of the game, with room for improvement
===============================================================================================================================================
Curry, Favors, Jennings, Derozan, Tyreke Evans, Brook Lopez, Gallo, Harden, Irving, Eric Gordon, Wall, Holiday, Kemba, Iman, Cousins, Knight

Better than role players but not "stars"
=========================================
Ibaka, Ryan Anderson, Varejo, Dalembert, Gortac, McGee, Wilson Chandler, Devin Harris, Jarret Jack, Greg Monroe, Lowry, Mike Conley, Calderon, Darren Collison, Stuckey

This is my list, strictly my opinions of the league. To me, to be considered on the top of the list...

1) You MUST be capable of being great on both ends of the court.
2) those guys have bodies, athleticism, and physical talents that CANNOT be taught.
3) Absolute STUDs, you would start a franchise with, if you had the 1st pick to rebuild TODAY, for the future of the franchise.
4) These guys have NBA bodies that would be considered FREAKISH, with chances of injuries being greatly lowered, considered DOMINANT, work ethic

Carmelo is a great player, but he is not the same league as Lebron or Wade. I believe he is however, in a league greater than Amare. His defense isn't as bad as Amare's, he will have problem guarding shooters, as we saw with Gay yesterday. We need to stop playing ISO basketball on a consistent basis. I think we relied on playing this style of ISO, even when Melo went out yesterday. Last year when Melo went out, we stepped up with some ball movement and TD stepped it up with Shawne Williams and Turiaf. When Amare went out this year, we played back with great ball movement, however, Kings and Thunder are completely different levels. Regardless, I think we have to make use of what we have and try to use what we have.
Ball movement, movement without the ball, picks, back screens, and GOOD SHOTS. We officially don't have a single post option, which would help good 3point shots. We do not have the shooters and ball movement we had last year, to spread the floor. We can not take 3pointers, when we do not have the looks, and it will be tough. We can not just chuck 3point shots, that is not SSOL, Our defense will have to step it up as Durant, WestBrook, and Harden will give us trouble with the athleticism of Ibaka.

+1

This list is flawed...Kobe is playing above the Top tier stars right now(4 40 pt games in a row).