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1/5/2012  10:37 AM
He's not built for the lights at msg. Too much evidence. Too many lame excuses....he needs to go and florish elsewhere. Make a lateral trade for someone with the gonads to play this game wit heart and pride...desire! He plays like he is afraid to stand with men. Get him outta here!
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1/5/2012  10:45 AM
He just needs to be moved to the bench and have his mins reduced. He also needs to play back-up SF because he's mainly a baseline player, not a perimeter player....
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1/5/2012  10:46 AM
Uptown wrote:He just needs to be moved to the bench and have his mins reduced. He also needs to play back-up SF because he's mainly a baseline player, not a perimeter player....

Yes! Someone understands me!

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1/5/2012  10:47 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/5/2012  10:50 AM
I can't believe a lot of people were more willing to keep him than Gallo out of that Melo deal....

In all fairness though, I really like how Fields plays the game as he is a team player but I just think he is a bad fit for the SL unless he is making his shots (which he clearly isn't right now). Guys like Amare and Melo need shooters around them and although Fields was hitting that outside shot last year pre-Melo deal, not sure that he can keep that up for a long period of time. Pre-Melo deal, I think he fit in very well because we already had a bunch of shooters in the lineup and the spacing we had back then coupled with the unselfishness on offense really fit his game.

I think Landry is much better suited coming off the bench at this point and I'm guessing D'Antoni will have to try that soon now that Shumpert is back. Either way, too early to give up on Landry as a player at the beginning of his 2nd year in the league.....

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1/5/2012  10:48 AM
EnySpree wrote:
Uptown wrote:He just needs to be moved to the bench and have his mins reduced. He also needs to play back-up SF because he's mainly a baseline player, not a perimeter player....

Yes! Someone understands me!

Really? I think there is a fundamental difference in what Uptown and you propose! Im with Uptown here, Lando is just not in the right role, but at the right team!

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1/5/2012  10:49 AM
Really dude...He goes from being a steal in the draft, to GTFO in only a year..wow.

This thread should have been dedicated to TD, Who is just a 6th man at best, and will never ever have PG skills, and should never be considered a combo guard..I believe the only reason he's considered a combo guard is his height.

There's no way in hell a real PG wouldn't gush( ask BDiddy) over playing with two of the top 10 scorers, and a athletic center who relishes ally oops..In a system that gives him total control..Fckng TD had 5 ast and 4 TO's last night..WTF, this dude is blind as a bat, and reacts like a freshman in college, missing wide open guys, then passing to guys late or too early.

We will suffer all day without good PG play, and we all know it. If the Bobcats scored 118, we should have scored 127, cause we have that much fire power to overcome our defensive liablities

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1/5/2012  10:53 AM
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1/5/2012  10:57 AM
knicks1248 wrote:Really dude...He goes from being a steal in the draft, to GTFO in only a year..wow.

This thread should have been dedicated to TD, Who is just a 6th man at best, and will never ever have PG skills, and should never be considered a combo guard..I believe the only reason he's considered a combo guard is his height.

There's no way in hell a real PG wouldn't gush( ask BDiddy) over playing with two of the top 10 scorers, and a athletic center who relishes ally oops..In a system that gives him total control..Fckng TD had 5 ast and 4 TO's last night..WTF, this dude is blind as a bat, and reacts like a freshman in college, missing wide open guys, then passing to guys late or too early.

We will suffer all day without good PG play, and we all know it. If the Bobcats scored 118, we should have scored 127, cause we have that much fire power to overcome our defensive liablities

I mean the evidence is there for Landry. Yeah he was a steal before melo...but what happened to the dude just because melo is around? I would trade him now but realisticly he needs to go to the bench immediately and back up the dude he's scared of and that's Melo.

As far as Tony....he is what he is. At least he plays wittgh heart and doesn't give up. He definately is a 6th man.

Baron Davis will solve the PG prob...Shumpert already solved the shooting guard spot

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1/5/2012  10:59 AM
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EnySpree wrote:
Uptown wrote:He just needs to be moved to the bench and have his mins reduced. He also needs to play back-up SF because he's mainly a baseline player, not a perimeter player....

Yes! Someone understands me!

Really? I think there is a fundamental difference in what Uptown and you propose! Im with Uptown here, Lando is just not in the right role, but at the right team!

You can see Landry thinking way too much. He's hesitant and unsure. Having him come off the becnch will relieve pressure. I think he feels the heat of bieng a part of the weak link backcourt and is trying too hard and rushing to prove he belongs. Might also feel Shump breathing down his neck. To be fair to him, though, needs help to score and be affective. Douglas aint helping no body score anything. With Douglas, you are on your own....

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1/5/2012  11:03 AM
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Iman Shumpert is a game changer. After what I saw in only his second game, fresh after straining his MCL ligament...this kid is absolutely for real. I'm talking a legit rookie of the year candidate unlike that bum Landry Fields from last year. What a joke Landry is! I hate to bash players in this spot so I'll be clear. I would love to hangout with Landry and throw down some pints of Guiness but no way do I want this dude playing on my professional basketball team! We heard about him practicing his corner 3 point shot and marveled at his new 24 inch pythons he got from training like Hulk Hogan in the off-seaon. What we got as a result is a dude that is absolutely scared to play NBA basketball. Where did he get better? He practiced a broken jumpshot all summer? Nobody tried to fix his mechanics? His shot is flat. I got into it on a message board about it and they brought up Reggie Miller and their favorite awkward shooters. Its embarrassing to even debate that. It doesn't matter how a guy shoots as long as the shot is consistant and has an ark giving it a chance to go in. Landry might as well one arm pitch it to the rim at this point. The dude can't put it on the floor either. His confidence is shot and I've come to the conclusion that this man is not made for MSG. He disappeared ever since the Carmelo deal. Its not the rookie wall. Its not that he doesn't get touches. The dude is afraid of the lights. Trade this guy....Please! At the very least put a real baller in and let Landry fill in behind guys that aren't afraid to play this game and compete. Its Shumpty Shump time!

Toney Douglas is what he is. He is not a point guard the same way Landry Fields is not a shooting guard. Thing is Douglas competes and doesn't give up. When Baron Davis makes his debute, Douglas will florish in the six man role. The same way you saw Iman Shumpert just come in and apply is will on the game, Baron Davis will do pretty much the same thing. Baron is a ball player. I had the privilage of seeing him live at rucker park when they had the tournament putting city against city. He showed up with his California squad and absolutely dominated. The man is a ball player. Nothing more or less. When he steps out we will see what this team is truly capable of. Right now Melo is struggling and working too hard for his 30 plus points. Stoudamire looks lost and laboring as well. Stat's body language to me suggest he isn't having fun out there. Baron takes the ball out of Melo's hands and lets him become more of a reciever where he could have room to operate. Stat will have his pick and roll back. Instead of moving the ball north and south, you will see the ball going east to west and guys will fall into their roles accordingly. Right now everyone is lost trying to do things they have no business doing. As a result the defense is out of sinc. Nobody is having fun out there.

Now fans...I hear you chanting for D'antoni to be fired. At this point, especially after seeing Balkman launch a three pointer last night, I'm ready for him to be fired as well. My thing is don't lose focus. The Knicks aren't stable yet. Shumpty Shump is gonna claim his spot at the starting shooting guard spot. Baron will be here soon running this team to its potential. Then Kenyon Martin will be here in March as soon as he's legally ready to join a NBA team. Don't abandon ship just yet. Our time is coming!

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1/5/2012  11:03 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/5/2012  11:05 AM
knicks1248 wrote:Really dude...He goes from being a steal in the draft, to GTFO in only a year..wow.

This thread should have been dedicated to TD, Who is just a 6th man at best, and will never ever have PG skills, and should never be considered a combo guard..I believe the only reason he's considered a combo guard is his height.

There's no way in hell a real PG wouldn't gush( ask BDiddy) over playing with two of the top 10 scorers, and a athletic center who relishes ally oops..In a system that gives him total control..Fckng TD had 5 ast and 4 TO's last night..WTF, this dude is blind as a bat, and reacts like a freshman in college, missing wide open guys, then passing to guys late or too early.

We will suffer all day without good PG play, and we all know it. If the Bobcats scored 118, we should have scored 127, cause we have that much fire power to overcome our defensive liablities

FU Landry Fields is a bit strong. How about FU EnySpree?

Landry Fields is NOT the problem. He is one of the few guys who plays with his head up. The flaws in his shot mechanics are correctable.

Basketball is a team game and what is wrong is everyone's problem. Finger pointing gets us nowhere.

With that said, the core problem is selfish basketball on both ends. The wrong shots being hoisted at the wrong time. The wrong guy NOT picking up the right shooter. Adding Baron Davis to a toxic mix is not a solution. He is not a solo solution any more than Patrick Ewing was a solo solution.

It ain't so deep that it warrants a FU for ANY single Knicks player... you win as a team and lose as a team... although Toney Douglas is severely testing that patience.

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1/5/2012  11:08 AM
EnySpree wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:Really dude...He goes from being a steal in the draft, to GTFO in only a year..wow.

This thread should have been dedicated to TD, Who is just a 6th man at best, and will never ever have PG skills, and should never be considered a combo guard..I believe the only reason he's considered a combo guard is his height.

There's no way in hell a real PG wouldn't gush( ask BDiddy) over playing with two of the top 10 scorers, and a athletic center who relishes ally oops..In a system that gives him total control..Fckng TD had 5 ast and 4 TO's last night..WTF, this dude is blind as a bat, and reacts like a freshman in college, missing wide open guys, then passing to guys late or too early.

We will suffer all day without good PG play, and we all know it. If the Bobcats scored 118, we should have scored 127, cause we have that much fire power to overcome our defensive liablities

I mean the evidence is there for Landry. Yeah he was a steal before melo...but what happened to the dude just because melo is around? I would trade him now but realisticly he needs to go to the bench immediately and back up the dude he's scared of and that's Melo.

As far as Tony....he is what he is. At least he plays wittgh heart and doesn't give up. He definately is a 6th man.

Baron Davis will solve the PG prob...Shumpert already solved the shooting guard spot

TD plays with heart, give me a smart player over a player with all the heart..

When felton was the PG, he would always find fields in the corner for a 3, at the elbow for a 3, or slashing for a easy layup..Don't get it twisted, fields was never a one on one player, Amare and felton made fields better..

Melo gets the ball(a avg faciltator) and he's looking for the PnR with amare or tyson, maybe he pentrates and kicks to douglas, thats all I'v seen from him so far as our primary playmaker.

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1/5/2012  11:18 AM
Lin needs some burn. I know he needs reps and time to learn the plays but come on. Lin deserves to get off the Bench...if dantoni benches fields then you have no choice but to play Lin cuz he's the only real PG off the bench r.I.p. Bibby.
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1/5/2012  11:21 AM
EnySpree wrote:Lin needs some burn. I know he needs reps and time to learn the plays but come on. Lin deserves to get off the Bench...if dantoni benches fields then you have no choice but to play Lin cuz he's the only real PG off the bench r.I.p. Bibby.

Also you play Billy Walker as the back up shooting guard and make Landry play Shawne Williamams old role. Simple mathematics

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1/5/2012  11:23 AM
It's simple play Fields off the bench so that he and Melo aren't on the court at the same time.
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1/5/2012  11:38 AM
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knicks1248 wrote:Really dude...He goes from being a steal in the draft, to GTFO in only a year..wow.

This thread should have been dedicated to TD, Who is just a 6th man at best, and will never ever have PG skills, and should never be considered a combo guard..I believe the only reason he's considered a combo guard is his height.

There's no way in hell a real PG wouldn't gush( ask BDiddy) over playing with two of the top 10 scorers, and a athletic center who relishes ally oops..In a system that gives him total control..Fckng TD had 5 ast and 4 TO's last night..WTF, this dude is blind as a bat, and reacts like a freshman in college, missing wide open guys, then passing to guys late or too early.

We will suffer all day without good PG play, and we all know it. If the Bobcats scored 118, we should have scored 127, cause we have that much fire power to overcome our defensive liablities

FU Landry Fields is a bit strong. How about FU EnySpree?

How bout FU Misterearl?

Its easy to sit behind a computer and talk ****. Its the context. Were talking basketball. Landry is a pro. With becoming pro you need to take the critizism. What he does with it is him. I stated in my blog that I would drink with the dude but I don't want him on my basketball team. His role needs to be diminished or he needs to be flat out traded. Simple....life goes on.

I would tell Landry F.U. in his face. Thing is the context would be joking and he would get it and probably tell me F.U. too.

Now back to FU Enyspree....

I have no problem with that. Again its within the context. You can say what you want here and in public as well. Through the context things would play out accordingly

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1/5/2012  11:40 AM
EnySpree wrote:
Uptown wrote:He just needs to be moved to the bench and have his mins reduced. He also needs to play back-up SF because he's mainly a baseline player, not a perimeter player....

Yes! Someone understands me!

I plus 1 on these comments

I think Melo and Fields are redundant on floor together coming in with second unit should help a lot!

KNICKS on the way UP!!!
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1/5/2012  11:42 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/5/2012  11:44 AM
Why?

EnySpree: "I would tell Landry F.U. in his face."

No, you would not.

Play Lin.

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1/5/2012  11:45 AM
Fields has sucked for a long time now, and I'm starting to lose my patience with him. He plays scared. How many times does he get the ball with no one defending him, then instead of taking the shot, passes to another player who has a defender in their face? There's a big difference between being unselfish and being too scared to shoot an open shot. He's bungling passes, bungling easy shots near the rim- people can say it's Melo or that he's not well suited to the team since the Melo trade, but I disagree- maybe that initially curbed his game, but it's now something else- if you watch him you can see he just has no confidence whatso ever, which is amazing because one of the great things about him early last season was that he was confident and didn't make mistakes.

I agree that he should be a SF not a SG, but then I still wouldn't move Shumpert to a starting role because he gives us energy and scoring off the bench and might be a little to disruptive to the offense in a starting role.

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1/5/2012  12:01 PM
Fields is good but he really has problems defending 2s. He makes some good plays and looks bad on others. I see him as a backup. A really poor man's Wilson Chandler. He was a PF in school. Its cute he's saavy enough to play some SG but he's NOT a starter on a playoff team, at least not yet.
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