I think he thinks its enough for him to 'make it fun', and that the players are going to just perform.

But the reality is, we've been out-hustled, and that has been the case since he's been here.

The lack of defensive effort last night was stark- and we have a new coach and players that are supposed to be better.

Why were the results not better last night, and earlier?

It's not the system, it's the coach.

New coach can add some rah-rah but eventually they tune it out.

Phil Jax is the all time leader in titles.

The dude just sits there.

Jordan was an animal and lead his team. You don't hustle, he just as soon kick yourass himself.

This is pro ball. Its about leadership.

This team does not have a clear cut alpha on it. melo has not been it in Denver, Amare did a good job last year (at least verbally) and Billups was the man on this team. Melo has always had others fill that role in Denver.

Chemistry takes time.

How many times do you tell a player that?

Nalod wrote:Or, we have unmotivated players?

New coach can add some rah-rah but eventually they tune it out.

Phil Jax is the all time leader in titles.

The dude just sits there.

Jordan was an animal and lead his team. You don't hustle, he just as soon kick yourass himself.

This is pro ball. Its about leadership.

This team does not have a clear cut alpha on it. melo has not been it in Denver, Amare did a good job last year (at least verbally) and Billups was the man on this team. Melo has always had others fill that role in Denver.

Chemistry takes time.

who is the alpha leader on the bobcats, who just kicked our ass. Mullens? Diaw? Henderson? Augustin? Really?

The purpose of the coach is to get these players motivated- and being a head coach in the NBA is a challenge because these guys are payed such big bucks that they no longer have to fight.

Being a motivated isn't just about screaming, but this group could use some Hubie Brown.

Bonn1997 wrote:It's the players

I don't believe we have worse talent than the Charlotte Bobcats. We might not be championship caliber, but we've got good players.

You can debate the fit, and whether Melo tries on defense- but between the guys being thrown out there - they should win 50%+ of the games they play, and certainly not get walked on at home.

Bonn1997 wrote:It's the players

Again the roster has changed but the issues remain the same. Same lethargic, sluggish starts to each game, Defense in spurts, confusion on defensive rotations, jacking up 3's when in doubt. Its been the same discussions since MDA has been here. Melo wasn't here for MDA in year 1 or 2 but it was an issue then. Chandler wasn't here, Amare wasn't here, Fields wasn't here....Its been this way for years. The season is too short to give him a long leash. I say cut ties now. I think the players have tuned him out.

franco12 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:It's the players

I don't believe we have worse talent than the Charlotte Bobcats. We might not be championship caliber, but we've got good players.

You can debate the fit, and whether Melo tries on defense- but between the guys being thrown out there - they should win 50%+ of the games they play, and certainly not get walked on at home.

It is not the talent that concerns me it is the players executing a play.

Uptown wrote:

rp wrote:

franco12 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:It's the players

I don't believe we have worse talent than the Charlotte Bobcats. We might not be championship caliber, but we've got good players.

You can debate the fit, and whether Melo tries on defense- but between the guys being thrown out there - they should win 50%+ of the games they play, and certainly not get walked on at home.

It is not the talent that concerns me it is the players executing a play.

are speaking defensively or offensively. Seems to me that the defensive philosphy/execution is to switch on every pick; at least thats what they did last night. If this is the case, this is an assinine way to have pro's play defense. These are middle school basketball principles...

Right now, both offense and defense. The team is still learning the new defense due to new players on the starting line up (TC and TD). I am with you with all the switch but I saw some of that last year and it slowly went away. As far as offense, Melo or Stat not going to listen to TD and TD doesn't seem confident enough to tell Melo and Stat what needs to be run nor does TD knows how to run an offense based on observation on the games played.

Bonn1997 wrote:

Uptown wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:It's the players

Again the roster has changed but the issues remain the same. Same lethargic, sluggish starts to each game, Defense in spurts, confusion on defensive rotations, jacking up 3's when in doubt. Its been the same discussions since MDA has been here. Melo wasn't here for MDA in year 1 or 2 but it was an issue then. Chandler wasn't here, Amare wasn't here, Fields wasn't here....Its been this way for years. The season is too short to give him a long leash. I say cut ties now. I think the players have tuned him out.

Over the past 10 years the changes on the roster have been like switching seats on the Titanic.

In the immortal words of Sugar Ray Richerdson, "Why does this ship be sinkin'?" If you are implying that Dolan is the captian to this Titanic organization, then that is a hol' 'nother topic. However, Dolan was here when we made our last trip to the finals. Not sure how Dolan played a part in the lack of defense we've been seeing since MDA's tenure....

Bonn1997 wrote:

In the immortal words of Sugar Ray Richerdson, "Why does this ship be sinkin'?" If you are implying that Dolan is the captian to this Titanic organization, then that is a hol' 'nother topic.

There's really no topic unrelated to this fundamental problem though. Every poster starting a topic identifying and trying to correct some minor problem is really recommending a seat switch on the Titanic.

However, Dolan was here when we made our last trip to the finals. Not sure how Dolan played a part in the lack of defense we've been seeing since MDA's tenure....

Dolan inherited a great team and it took him some time to destroy it.

Explain how Dolan himself destroyed the Knicks, starting from 99 on....

Bonn1997 wrote:

Uptown wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

In the immortal words of Sugar Ray Richerdson, "Why does this ship be sinkin'?" If you are implying that Dolan is the captian to this Titanic organization, then that is a hol' 'nother topic.

There's really no topic unrelated to this fundamental problem though. Every poster starting a topic identifying and trying to correct some minor problem is really recommending a seat switch on the Titanic.

However, Dolan was here when we made our last trip to the finals. Not sure how Dolan played a part in the lack of defense we've been seeing since MDA's tenure....

Dolan inherited a great team and it took him some time to destroy it.

Explain how Dolan himself destroyed the Knicks, starting from 99 on....

Did you miss the last decade???

Absolutely not. As a fan of this team, I think you have to appreciate his deep pockets and willingness to to improve the team. His biggest problem was hiring the wrong desicion makers (See Isiah). That in turn was a bad decision on his part so he takes the blme for that. However, I think it started with the Van Gundy/Grunfeld fiasco and it unraveled from there. Dolan is the owner so he takes a ton of blame, but its not due to lack of effort or pocketing money.