Living and dying with the 3 is putrid. I will however give credit to the defense which has started to show signs of monumental improvement.

STAT coming back will help our offense immensely and hurt our defense immensely.

nixluva wrote:It's all that's left when you don't have PG penetration and ball distribution. Guys have the ball in situations they're not used to and they go brain numb and take the 3 cuz it's the easiest thing to do! Think about it. Who on this team is really capable of creating their own shot? We need a PG to set things up and be the brain on the floor. We've got guys who can hit open shots and finish at the rim, but they aren't gonna create their own shots.

Still there were just some HORRID shots being taken and they needed to attack the basket more. Just hard to do with the guys we have healthy. We knew this would be an issue but all we could do is hope for the best. Now we have to wait for Amar'e, Shump and B Diddy to get healthy. Should get guys back soon.

So any team that do not have good PG's just shoot 35 3's as an antecdote? C'mon that won't fly.

BAD 3's are not what this offense is about. This offense was always about the PnR and good early offense off pushing the ball. For that you have to have at least a decent PG like Felton was. He's never been a great PG, but he was just good enough to actually run the offense. That's what we don't have now. You can't underestimate the impact of having BAD PG play verses even decent levels of PG play like Calderon gave the Raptors. He's not that good, but he was steady and did just enough to help his team. So far TD has actually HURT the team more than he's helped and that's not gonna work. TD has to play well for this team to get into it's rhythm.

If you doubt it then tell me who is gonna drive the ball on this team rather than take a bad shot? who has the kind of game where they can dribble drive and pull up for the midrange? Only guy left is Melo and the D is gonna key on him. that leaves almost no one that is healthy with that kind of talent. The 2 key players we need are Shump and B Diddy. Both are capable of breaking down the D and getting into the teeth of the D. More important we need B Diddy's decision making with the ball. Until then TD has to play smarter more consistently and setup his teammates.

nixluva wrote:Why is that everyone just assumes that the idea is to just hoist 3's? The fact that the players decided to take bad 3's doesn't mean that is the offense. Sometimes I wonder if any of you guys have ever watched any of the games that the Suns used to play or any of the games this team has played when they were truly playing the system!!! The offense isn't to take a million 3's just cuz you can. The shots we hit tended to be the GOOD 3's, meaning the ball went inside 1st and when that was overplayed by the defense then the ball went back out and they hit the shot.

BAD 3's are not what this offense is about. This offense was always about the PnR and good early offense off pushing the ball. For that you have to have at least a decent PG like Felton was. He's never been a great PG, but he was just good enough to actually run the offense. That's what we don't have now. You can't underestimate the impact of having BAD PG play verses even decent levels of PG play like Calderon gave the Raptors. He's not that good, but he was steady and did just enough to help his team. So far TD has actually HURT the team more than he's helped and that's not gonna work. TD has to play well for this team to get into it's rhythm.

If you doubt it then tell me who is gonna drive the ball on this team rather than take a bad shot? who has the kind of game where they can dribble drive and pull up for the midrange? Only guy left is Melo and the D is gonna key on him. that leaves almost no one that is healthy with that kind of talent. The 2 key players we need are Shump and B Diddy. Both are capable of breaking down the D and getting into the teeth of the D. More important we need B Diddy's decision making with the ball. Until then TD has to play smarter more consistently and setup his teammates.

Some good points but I believe this is a system problem. It was a problem with Felton and its a problem now.

It's not the system, it's the execution that's the problem. But you're a genius so break it down and explain to us exactly why SSOL has been a consistently high efficiency offense in PHX and even here in NY despite the fact that we haven't had great PG's all the time? All you need is even a DECENT PG and it works. Right now TD is playing awful PG and Bibby can't offer anything beyond spot minutes.

This team was 2nd in scoring last year and 7th in offensive efficiency with all that went on with the new roster and Felton trying to learn the system and the trade drama and CB stumbling to learn the system and STILL the team was top ten in offense.

What it shows is that once we had a half decent PG the team was able to play very well offensively. It took Felton a month to get the hang of it and CB never fully got it. TD is still at the struggling stage and may never get it, but it's still too early to say. Duhon struggled in year one as well. It's sad that we've had to start over and over at the one key spot for this team but that's how it is. This team really needed a good and consistent floor leader for a couple of years but we just haven't had that.

That's still no excuse for hoisting up 35 3's. There's a thing called off-the-ball movement which we simply do not do enough of. Pick and roll, isolation, or jacking up a 3-pt shot are not the only 3 plays in basketball. Where are the backdoor cuts, post play, off-the-ball screens to free up a midrange shooter and curl plays? In fact, this team and this system hardly EVER sets off-the-ball screens. We only set a pick for the ball-handler, but our ballhandlers suck.

Childs2Dudley wrote:

Awesome. The other video of the offensive guru that needs to be made is the, "Do what you do" coming out of time out.