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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
12/12/2011 11:04 PM
You can imagine that as a rook Iman will have a lot to learn. However, this kid is a talent and soon everyone will see just how good he really is. Forget about the scouting reports cuz that's not who he is anymore. He's grown since then already and this is a completely different situation from his GT days. He's got real coaching here and a different role. The important thing is that he can play and with time he should grow into an impact player for this team. We just need to have some patience with him as he develops. I think he's gonna shock a lot of people.
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toodarkmark
Posts: 21145 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 1/2/2004 Member: #515 USA |
12/13/2011 12:14 AM
He just seems so, so good defensively and can really electrify in the open court. All he has to do is develop a three point shot, and this kid has star potential to him. He did shoot 80% from the free throw line, so he has the potential.
I could see him being a 2nd team All Nba Defensive guy. Definitely. I don't care what people think. People are stupid. - Charles Barkley
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Ira
Posts: 24688 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 8/14/2001 Member: #91 |
12/13/2011 5:38 AM
One argument in his favor is that he had to take a lot of shots in college because his team didn't have many offensive options. We'll see if his shot selection improves at this level.
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SupremeCommander
Posts: 34057 Alba Posts: 35 Joined: 4/28/2006 Member: #1127 |
12/13/2011 5:52 AM
Ira wrote:One argument in his favor is that he had to take a lot of shots in college because his team didn't have many offensive options. We'll see if his shot selection improves at this level. *last* season He had the benefit of Derrick Favors and Ganai Lawal in previous seasons DLeethal wrote:
Lol Rick needs a safe space
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misterearl
Posts: 38786 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 11/16/2004 Member: #799 USA |
12/13/2011 8:03 AM
There is no ugly.
Shumpert is a straight up baller. once a knick always a knick
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Bonn1997
Posts: 58654 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 2/2/2004 Member: #581 USA |
12/13/2011 8:10 AM
Ira wrote:One argument in his favor is that he had to take a lot of shots in college because his team didn't have many offensive options. We'll see if his shot selection improves at this level. That argument might work if he made a high percentage but he was only at 40%. A guy with his athleticism should be looking to create easy shots for teammates. |
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knicks1248
Posts: 42059 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 2/3/2004 Member: #582 |
12/13/2011 10:40 AM
misterearl wrote:There is no ugly. The ugly was some of those shots that miss pretty badly..I'm not saying they can't be corrected...but I have heard of bad habits being hard to break..in this system its easy to get caught up taking bad shots..we hAve seen it in the pass from numerous bets. ES
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misterearl
Posts: 38786 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 11/16/2004 Member: #799 USA |
12/13/2011 10:50 AM
knicks1248 - what shots that missed badly?
The preseason hasn't even started. Sheesh. once a knick always a knick
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Allanfan20
Posts: 35947 Alba Posts: 50 Joined: 1/16/2004 Member: #542 USA |
12/13/2011 10:51 AM
I haven't seen him at all in college besides in highlites, but I can tell you that he has to fix how he arches his back as a way to fade away... even when he takes 3s. I bet you 85 to 90% of his missed Js were short and I bet you he even shot a bunch of air balls. I have seen his practice videos and he shoots the lights out so if he can fix that one thing, almost none of us are going to be begging him to become a point guard.
“Whenever I’m about to do something, I think ‘Would an idiot do that?’ and if they would, I do NOT do that thing.”- Dwight Schrute
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misterearl
Posts: 38786 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 11/16/2004 Member: #799 USA |
12/13/2011 10:54 AM
Allanfan20 - didn't Bernard King arch his back in a similar manner?
"Don't Sweat The Technique" once a knick always a knick
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misterearl
Posts: 38786 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 11/16/2004 Member: #799 USA |
12/13/2011 10:55 AM
Jamaal Wilkes had a lot of things "wrong" with his shot as well, didn't he?
We all cannot be Jerry West. once a knick always a knick
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Allanfan20
Posts: 35947 Alba Posts: 50 Joined: 1/16/2004 Member: #542 USA |
12/13/2011 10:55 AM
misterearl wrote:Allanfan20 - didn't Bernard King arch his back in a similar manner? If he shoots 40% from the field and 28% or so from the 3... and he's arching and his shots are falling short, I'm not exactly thinking of Bernard King... and I'm pretty sure King didn't. “Whenever I’m about to do something, I think ‘Would an idiot do that?’ and if they would, I do NOT do that thing.”- Dwight Schrute
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Allanfan20
Posts: 35947 Alba Posts: 50 Joined: 1/16/2004 Member: #542 USA |
12/13/2011 11:00 AM
misterearl wrote:Jamaal Wilkes had a lot of things "wrong" with his shot as well, didn't he? You're right. Shumpert does not need to attempt to improve his shooting at all. Not one bit. I can't even understand why I bothered stating such blasphemy. Am I using blasphemy in the right context? “Whenever I’m about to do something, I think ‘Would an idiot do that?’ and if they would, I do NOT do that thing.”- Dwight Schrute
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Nalod
Posts: 71160 Alba Posts: 155 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
12/13/2011 11:18 AM
Allanfan20 wrote:misterearl wrote:Jamaal Wilkes had a lot of things "wrong" with his shot as well, didn't he? Needs more "ark"! |
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knicks1248
Posts: 42059 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 2/3/2004 Member: #582 |
12/13/2011 1:56 PM
misterearl wrote:knicks1248 - what shots that missed badly? Young guys come in the league with habits or I should say a style of play that usually takes time to adjust.. When I first saw douglas's highlights right after we drafted him....the one thing I notice...he never pass the ball in not one single highlight...in 2 seasons he has rearly showed the ability to be a true pg...maybe it will happen maybe it won't.. But you get my point...jc has been in this league a while and only recently his shot selection has gotten better...I'm praying that iman turns into the next spreewell who also had a awful shooting stroke coming into the league. ES
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
12/13/2011 2:38 PM
The kid avg'd 5 assists in his rookie season at GT, so I don't think he's incapable of making passes. People are going to have to let this kid be himself. All this talk about bad shots is fine, cuz he didn't have a handle on that in college, but he also had weak coaching and that won't be the case in the NBA. He's worked hard to improve as a player and from every single report, even the early ones from camp, this kid has come a long way already. He's going to be a steal of this draft and i'm not afraid to go on record saying that. The kid literally has it all.
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jrodmc
Posts: 32927 Alba Posts: 50 Joined: 11/24/2004 Member: #805 USA |
12/14/2011 9:51 AM
Bottom line: he ends up in the DanPhony doghouse, and gets injured banging his knee into JJ during "7 footer guards PG" practice drill...
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
12/17/2011 3:57 AM
How'd our buy Iman look in the practice yesterday? Now I think more fans are starting to see why some of us have been so high on this kid from the start. He's got things to learn, but at a certain point doubters will have to acknowledge the kids spirit and talent. It's that combination that has us so excited about his prospects. YES we know he has to go out and prove it in real games, but come on and fess up that you can't deny his talent. If you can't see the promise this kid holds for the future, I don't know what to say. Now come the games and we'll see just how good this kid can be and how well he applies his talent to the real games. Just don't tell me that he lacks legit talent and should've been a 2nd rd pick as some have been spouting. Here's hoping he has that ROY season that some of us think he has a shot to win. Perhaps now people are beginning to realize why MDA wanted this kid.
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RonRon
Posts: 25531 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/22/2002 Member: #246 |
12/17/2011 4:11 AM LAST EDITED: 12/17/2011 4:11 AM
nixluva wrote:How'd our buy Iman look in the practice yesterday? Now I think more fans are starting to see why some of us have been so high on this kid from the start. He's got things to learn, but at a certain point doubters will have to acknowledge the kids spirit and talent. It's that combination that has us so excited about his prospects. YES we know he has to go out and prove it in real games, but come on and fess up that you can't deny his talent. If you can't see the promise this kid holds for the future, I don't know what to say. Now come the games and we'll see just how good this kid can be and how well he applies his talent to the real games. Just don't tell me that he lacks legit talent and should've been a 2nd rd pick as some have been spouting. Here's hoping he has that ROY season that some of us think he has a shot to win. Perhaps now people are beginning to realize why MDA wanted this kid. couldn't agree more, I can't even see why people would even doubt this kid. Athleticism A communication and confidence A You can see the way Chandler talks to him, he is expecting him to play a large role together on defensive schemes... Ibaka all picked after Iman, I think Hibbert might have been the same pick... watch him practice, hes a tuff kid, his PG skill are superior to TD, and he has great size, speed, strength, to go with that athleticism... He has a realistic shot at ROY, I don't even know if I can call him a sleeper at this point... |