holfresh wrote:U guys just about touch every topic that's provocative and moving in life and sports...Nothing on Peterno???

Personally, I think Paterno and Penn State still don't get it...I have kids, I can't even imagine what those kids experienced.... No one, NO ONE, stepped up
to protect these kids from this monster...I'm at a loss...It's really difficult for me to believe that everyone involved in coaching didn't know what was happening...
It's hard to keep stuff like that quiet for over a decade in any workplace...And it's only decade that these abuses have actually been documented, more than likely,
it's been longer...They enabled and protected this guy, watched him bring kid after kid on campus...Who does that??? What's human idly watch this go on year after year...

Not often do we agree but I am 100% aligned with your entire post. It seems like we are living in a moral vacuum. It's a systemic failure of the society as a whole. There is too much focus on self and too little on well being of others. When people are willing to look away from something so heinous it would appear that the essence of what makes us human is collapsing all around us.

They simply put the football program ahead of the crime and their ambitions clouded their judgement.

JoePa and McCrreary skirted the legality by reporting the infraction but their superiors did not do the right thing.

JoePa and the University will be facing huge civil lawsuits. JoePa saying the other day "in hindsight I should have done more" which was a correct statement and one of remorse but will cost him.

I have not read the indictment but plan to this weekend. ITs pretty phucked from what I have heard.

McCreary can say he was a "graduate assistant" and reported it to his superior and won't get fired under the whistle blowers protection lawas but as a 28 year old man (at the time) why was he confused as to what to do? He should have pulled that kid out of the shower and called the police. When he saw notihing was happening he should have gone to the DA's office and told them.

Their ambition and thinking the institution would be hurt clouded their judgement.

I guess like most folks I am saddened that JoePa was not even close to being what he appeared. He did not cheat in the traditional sense, but he put his program above the law and above decent morality.

They might want to call the Vatican and ask them how they dealt with things. They too protected the institution thinking by doing so was doing more good for more than trying to heal the few.

The Catholic church survived and so will Penn State. But a **** storm is here and now.

jusnice wrote:I did post in the OT forum - seems like we forget to use the OT forum these days and just lump everything into the NBA forum...

it's off season, so posting here is no problem at all. If topic relevant enough I try to move them over here but just missed. Sorry, been super busy.

If they were going to start firing people they should have gotten rid of them all and cut the entire group out of the University. Clearly those who knew have no moral backbone, and have no place on that campus.

As Jon Stewart said last night, if you are a grown up and you walk in on an adult raping a 10 year old in the shower you do one of two things:
1) You go in and you stop it
2) You call the police immediately

McCreary did neither of these things and as a result a sexual predator was able to continue destroying the lives of innocent children.

I have not read the indictment and I am not sure I want to, this is just absolutely disgusting.

I also find that the institutions and people who shove honor and morals in everyone's face often tend to have skeletons in their closets worse than anyone could imagine. Interesting how that happens isn't it?

In time the story will unfold and we an then judge. Sandusky is guilty and the leadership at State is pretty weak.

The womens basketball team got fried on the homophobic coach who was pretty out there regarding lesbians on ther team. Leadership just let it slide.

The reputation of the university was the most important factor and in a seedy world they thought they were above it.

I hate saying this, but think there may be a suicide as part of the fallout of this scandal. If not Sandusky, then perhaps one of the people who had intimate knowledge but did nothing...

I believe we will see more and more of this stuff. Unfortunately, sexual abuse in sports and around sports has been an issue that has been kept quiet for too long.