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10/17/2011  10:47 AM    LAST EDITED: 10/17/2011  10:54 AM
As usual, he does it with style! The take on Garnnet is excellent.

I did not copy the portion on the Redsowx but if you wish the URL is:
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7100999/avoiding-lockout-red-sox?view=print

The Sports Guy
Avoiding the Lockout and the Red Sox
Before we get to the Week 6 picks, the Sports Guy has a few things he absolutely doesn't want to talk aboutBy Bill SimmonsPOSTED OCTOBER 14, 2011

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If it's all right with you, I would like to make it through this week's NFL Picks column without mentioning …

A. The indefensible NBA lockout. You should never miss games (and paychecks) without a really good reason. In 2004-05, hockey had a good reason: They had a blue-collar sport with white-collar costs, leaving them a business model that was unsustainable. The NBA has a totally sustainable business model — it just needs to be tweaked. What's happening right now isn't "tweaking." It's like fixing up your family room by swinging a wrecking ball through it.

B. Two weeks (and counting) of canceled NBA games. And as we're finding out, nobody except die-hard NBA junkies care. Everyone else? They're more than happy to keep watching pro and college football through the holidays, deal with their fantasy teams, gamble on games, eat up the dozens of talking-head shows, read the hundreds of football-related blogs/columns and figure out who's making the playoffs and BCS Championship Series. But seriously, keep up the "tree falling in the NFL forest" routine and keep losing all your momentum with casual fans after one of the five best seasons in NBA history, Everyone Involved In This Indefensibly Dumb Lockout.

C. The agents, who escaped this debacle relatively unscathed because just about every person covering the NBA counts at least two or three agents among their best sources — sorry, it's true — and also, it's easier to vilify the visible lockout characters (David Stern, Billy Hunter, Derek Fisher, etc.) over the ones who helped block any real progress from happening because some of them cared as much about protecting the ceiling of their next 25 years of commissions as they did about preventing their current players from missing paychecks.1

Will the players ever understand that part? Will they ever understand that agents are not — all caps: NOT — always their friends in a situation like this? Or that there's a real chasm right now between the agendas of the best agents (the ones who rep the LeBrons and Durants and want to keep the ceiling of contracts as high as possible) and the grinders (the ones who want to protect the middle-class guys and keep the midlevel exception intact), and over everything else, that's why Billy Hunter is acting like he's being drawn and quartered right now? Or that this chasm, as well as the festering (and more-public-than-they-should-be) issues between Hunter and the agents, have conspired to make Stern's owners believe, "We just need to cancel some games and their entire side will eventually implode?" A group of extremely bright people seemed to have outsmarted themselves here — by trying to make things better, they made things worse. Again, the players don't seem to realize this.

D. The players, almost all of them millionaires or multi-multi-multi-millionaires, who had the gall to start a "Let Us Play" social media campaign earlier this week and expected America to feel sorry for them during the recession. We're supposed to trust their collective judgement after that display of fecal fireworks?2

Hey, players? Go research the 2008 Writers Strike, when the writers overvalued three things: their own worth, the concept of supply and demand and the future of Internet revenue (which was five years away from truly being figured out). If you remember, those writers missed four-plus months of paychecks and allowed Hollywood to reset its entire system so it was more favorable to studios and production companies. That's where you're headed. And by the way, you're taking no accountability whatsoever for all the guys who got overpaid. Nobody on the planet thinks Travis Outlaw should make $35 million over five years, or Rashard Lewis should make $23 million this season. If your sport is handing out those deals, something went horribly wrong. This needs to be fixed. There's a reason Leo DiCaprio makes 20 times more for a movie than his buddy Kevin Connolly. People pay to see stars. Nobody pays to see role players and middle-class guys.

Of course, the players' union would never accept this — it's made up of mostly role players and middle class guys. Those guys want to protect what they have. And what they have is a system that overpays them. Which, by the way, is the biggest reason we're having a lockout. The owners are fine with paying LeBron $20 million a year; they just don't want to pay James Posey $7 million a year. They are trying to save themselves from themselves. The players won't help them. Their attitude is, "Just don't sign those dumb contracts then." But the owners have proven — flagrantly and embarrassingly over these past few decades — that they can't freaking help themselves. They want more protection. They want more checks and balances. And you know what? In this case, they're right. What the players need to realize is that it's bad for them to be overpaid. When someone like Josh Childress is mailing in a big deal that he never should have gotten to begin with, it makes fans resent the players and their sport. Do they care? Do they see the big picture here? Doesn't seem like it. That's why we need shorter contracts, and that's why we need more checks and balances to prevent the owners from pulling a Plaxico on themselves. Sometimes it's not all about "getting the most you can get." I'd love to hear a veteran player admit that publicly. Just once.3

E. Billy Hunter, the overmatched head of the players union, who showed no urgency whatsoever this spring, acted stubbornly for reasons that were only clear to him, refuses to acknowledge the change in consumer habits (and keeps pretending that the NBA's business from 2012 to 2022 will look exactly like it did from 2001 to 2011), showed no ability to pull off a give-and-take negotiating session, and basically seemed petrified to think outside the box for eight solid months. We knew in February that we were headed for D-Day. Where was the urgency? Why did everyone seem so blindsided this week when games were finally canceled? And why do I keep hearing from connected/smart/knowledgeable people within the sport that Billy knows he can't get a better deal than the one the owners offered last week, only he doesn't want to accept it now because he knows that — if he does — the players union will fire him afterwards for caving, which means he'll lose his lucrative ($2.5 million per year) contract? If that's true, that means Billy would rather lose everyone else's paycheck over his own. I really hope that's not true. Just know that's what people are whispering, Billy.4

F. Kevin Garnett, who inexplicably turned into Norma Rae these past few weeks and led the charge to fight the fight and stand strong … without, of course, ever mentioning that his agent was savvy enough to defer a significant amount of money from his last contract extension so that he still has fresh money coming in this season (unlike 95 percent of the players), or that a 50-game regular season would be absolutely perfect for his aching knees, or that losing two months of 2011-12 money might help him with his next contract because he won't break down during a shortened season (increasing the odds that he'll get one last lucrative extension next summer).

Should someone who's earned over $300 million (including endorsements) and has deferred paychecks coming really be telling guys who have made 1/100th as much as him to fight the fight and stand strong and not care about getting paid? And what are Garnett's credentials, exactly? During one of the single biggest meetings (last week, on Tuesday), Hunter had Kobe Bryant, Paul Pierce and Garnett (combined years spent in college: three) negotiate directly with Stern in some sort of misguided "Look how resolved we are, you're not gonna intimidate us!" ploy that backfired so badly that one of their teams' owners was summoned into the meeting specifically to calm his player down and undo some of the damage. (I'll let you guess the player. It's not hard.) And this helped the situation … how? And we thought this was going to work … why?

Congratulations, players — you showed solidarity! You showed you wouldn't back down! You made things worse, and you wasted a day, but dammit, you didn't back down! Just make sure you tell that to every team employee who gets fired over these next few weeks, as well as to all the restaurant and bar owners near NBA arenas who are taking a massive financial hit through the holidays. I'm sure they will be proud of you.

G. The owners, who wanted to miss two months of games all along and even went as far as investigating this summer how they'd legally go about filling their arenas during nights when they "had" NBA home games in November and December. (The answer: You can't schedule other events in your arena without violating labor laws. But if you want to schedule a musical act for two nights before a home game, then "play it by ear" and "add" a third night at the last minute — wink, wink — that's ostensibly legal.) These guys are prepared to reset their system, break the players and reposition themselves for the rest of the decade, when attendance revenue will continue to slide in the HD/Internet/Fun-To-Be-Home Era and small-market teams will continue to suffer without contraction or revenue sharing (neither of which can happen without a more favorable CBA). There was no chance they were playing 82 games this year. It was a charade.

And yes, I'm still waiting for the owners to take some accountability for all the horrific contracts they handed out — especially the ones from the summer of 2010, when they knew a lockout was coming and couldn't help themselves from shelling out indefensibly dumb deals like they were 30 Charlie Sheens unable to stop themselves from snorting coke off a stripper's navel because the stripper lay down naked, cut the lines herself and said, "Here." And then they have the gall to cry poverty? Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh-kay.

(In case you're wondering, there is no "good" side in this disgrace of a battle. It's like the end of War Games when the computer realizes that there's no way to win a nuclear war because everyone will blow up. That's what we're watching. Everyone is a loser, everyone should be ashamed. Everyone.)

H. David Stern, the commissioner of a 26-team league with 30 franchises, who can't seem to understand why they're not making money. Gee, I wonder, David. That's a real head-scratcher. Once considered the greatest commish ever,5 Stern could have gotten creative about ways to change the revenue stream, protect the owners, incentivize overachieving players, add a play-in tournament for the 8-seeds, get sponsored jerseys, merge two struggling teams, take advantage of the Chicago market (by adding a second team there) and any other idea that could have prevented us from missing games, and instead, just did the second grade bully routine of "You have too many cookies, I WANT SOME OF YOUR COOKIES!" before finally bending to a reasonable place these past two weeks. But too much damage was done. Now it's a staring contest and a dick-swinging contest. Nobody wins. Everyone loses.

I have been writing this for three months and I will write it again: The fair and logical compromise if we're not contracting (and we should) would be a 50/50 BRI split, four-year max deals for contracts, the elimination of sign-and-trades, a reduced midlevel exception (I think it should be chopped in half), some sort of luxury tax to penalize anyone who spends 15 percent more than the cap and one Larry Bird exception per team (so that teams have a built-in advantage to keep their best player). I promise you, that's where we will end up — there's no real imagination to it, either. We're missing games to get there. Possibly an entire season. And it's playing out that way for a variety of reasons, but mainly because the players can't accept that owners are terrified about where attendance revenue is going (the whole reason this is happening); owners can't accept that players simply don't trust their numbers, intentions or judgment; and both sides waited too long to get serious.

I am profoundly pissed off. In case you couldn't tell. But you know what? I'm in the minority. Most people are watching football … and will continue to watch football … and will continue to watch football … right through the holidays. When fans don't ultimately care if your season started two months late, maybe you DO need to break the system and rebuild it. Then again, it's hard to fathom how a league coming off a 10 Finals rating that has 75 percent of America's most marketable professional athletes needs to blow things up. What a traveshamockery. Speaking of traveshamockeries …

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10/17/2011  11:08 AM
Great read. Thanks.
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10/17/2011  11:17 AM
good article, but this sums it up nicely for me..

Nobody on the planet thinks Travis Outlaw should make $35 million over five years, or Rashard Lewis should make $23 million this season. If your sport is handing out those deals, something went horribly wrong. This needs to be fixed. There's a reason Leo DiCaprio makes 20 times more for a movie than his buddy Kevin Connolly. People pay to

see stars. Nobody pays to see role players and middle-class guys.

Of course, the players' union would never accept this — it's made up of mostly role players and middle class guys. Those guys want to protect what they have. And what they have is a system that overpays them. Which, by the way, is the biggest reason we're having a lockout. The owners are fine with paying LeBron $20 million a year; they just don't want to pay James Posey $7 million a year. They are trying to save themselves from themselves. The players won't help them. Their attitude is, "Just don't sign those dumb contracts then." But the owners have proven — flagrantly and embarrassingly over these past few decades — that they can't freaking help themselves. They want more protection.

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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10/17/2011  12:00 PM

Naturally the owners need to stop being stupid but being stupid is being stupid in hindsight. Isiah thought Eddy would live up to the money. Teams thought Rashard Lewis would and could have gotten better. Travis Outlaw has the potential to step it up. Teams are competitive and willing to pay up if they think it can get them value.

The market for large centers is thin and a guy like Jerome James who had a great playoff series was seen as a rising commodity and Isiah paid up. Why a guy does it for a contract year is pretty apparent but sometimes players mature and want to leave their mark on the game and get paid.

Dumb contracts are easy to spot after the fact, but there are guys like BIllups who talents ahve dropped some continued to be a presence in other ways. Where Marbury was not.

The league will be better wth rules to help teams from being stupid.

Lets hope in time Stat and Melos contract are not stupid in hindsight!

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10/17/2011  12:07 PM
I hope they cancel the sport. The whole sport. Then I wont care anymore how lousy the Melo trade was
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10/17/2011  12:21 PM
fishmike wrote:I hope they cancel the sport. The whole sport. Then I wont care anymore how lousy the Melo trade was

And I hope you choke on a chicken wing while posting on a hockey board. The whole chicken wing.

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10/17/2011  12:24 PM
Nalod should have gotten a royalty check on this part:

Should someone who's earned over $300 million (including endorsements) and has deferred paychecks coming really be telling guys who have made 1/100th as much as him to fight the fight and stand strong and not care about getting paid? And what are Garnett's credentials, exactly? During one of the single biggest meetings (last week, on Tuesday), Hunter had Kobe Bryant, Paul Pierce and Garnett (combined years spent in college: three) negotiate directly with Stern in some sort of misguided "Look how resolved we are, you're not gonna intimidate us!" ploy that backfired so badly that one of their teams' owners was summoned into the meeting specifically to calm his player down and undo some of the damage. (I'll let you guess the player. It's not hard.) And this helped the situation … how? And we thought this was going to work … why?

Congratulations, players — you showed solidarity! You showed you wouldn't back down! You made things worse, and you wasted a day, but dammit, you didn't back down! Just make sure you tell that to every team employee who gets fired over these next few weeks, as well as to all the restaurant and bar owners near NBA arenas who are taking a massive financial hit through the holidays. I'm sure they will be proud of you.

I'd of course settle for a 50% finders fee.

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10/17/2011  1:30 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/17/2011  1:46 PM
You can have 47%!
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10/17/2011  1:55 PM
51%!
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10/17/2011  2:49 PM
jrodmc wrote:51%!

57% and that is my final offer....

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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10/17/2011  2:50 PM
Hell with that...I'm going to Europe and look for Nalod copyright infringements...
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10/17/2011  2:53 PM
jrodmc wrote:Hell with that...I'm going to Europe and look for Nalod copyright infringements...

whatever you sue for, I want 57% FRI..(finders fee realated income)

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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10/17/2011  3:19 PM
jrodmc wrote:Hell with that...I'm going to Europe and look for Nalod copyright infringements...

What about China?

And don't get hurt!

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10/17/2011  7:59 PM
One the primary reasons owners make bad deals is because they try to keep a star players happy.

When a team has a star player, management is under extreme pressure for the team to succeed quickly or risk losing that star player to FA. So they tend to overpay to bring in anyone that they think will help.

The other reason is backlash from fans for breaking up a reasonably successful team.

For example, no one in their right mind thought that either Rudy Gay or Joe Johnson were legitimate max players. But the Hawks were a pretty good team. If they didn't give him the max last year he would have walked. That would have upset fans and the rest of the Hawks players. More or less the same thing happened with Rudy Gay.

It's not really that these guys are stupid (although some might be) or that they need protection from their that stupidity. It's that the system, fans, and media keep them under a lot of pressure to win quickly. The Knicks have made an endless number of horrible deals trying to win quickly because of the pressure from nitwits in the media.

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ItalianStallion wrote:One the primary reasons owners make bad deals is because they try to keep a star players happy.

When a team has a star player, management is under extreme pressure for the team to succeed quickly or risk losing that star player to FA. So they tend to overpay to bring in anyone that they think will help.

The other reason is backlash from fans for breaking up a reasonably successful team.

For example, no one in their right mind thought that either Rudy Gay or Joe Johnson were legitimate max players. But the Hawks were a pretty good team. If they didn't give him the max last year he would have walked. That would have upset fans and the rest of the Hawks players. More or less the same thing happened with Rudy Gay.

It's not really that these guys are stupid (although some might be) or that they need protection from their that stupidity. It's that the system, fans, and media keep them under a lot of pressure to win quickly. The Knicks have made an endless number of horrible deals trying to win quickly because of the pressure from nitwits in the media.


GOOD POINTS... I live in atlanta and a lot of fans didn't want to keep Joe johnson, not at that price, but ownership likes making the playoffs and playoff dollars and without joe, they are not a playoff team.. Plus Atlanta has to overpay to get FA to come here... Even had they let joe goe they would not have been under the cap enough to sign any kind of decent player, so they rolled the dice.. not that I agree, but you can almost see their thinking... teams trying to play within the rules of this broken system are bound for mistakes..

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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10/17/2011  10:22 PM
Yes, good points! Lebron and Dwight Howard both held/holding their franchises hostage to "win now". We were in panic mode most of Ewings tenure.

Dwight in this months Esquire magazine really talks about needing to leave to fulfill his dreams. Nothing wrong with that at all, and if the teams go "franchise tag" then he can ask for a trade. But no more going to a ready made team to orchestrate a championship. when Kareem wanted go to LA they did the trade and LA was hurting for 2 years!

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10/18/2011  8:20 AM
Nalod wrote:
jrodmc wrote:Hell with that...I'm going to Europe and look for Nalod copyright infringements...

What about China?

And don't get hurt!

Why you keep saying that?

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10/18/2011  11:25 AM
jrodmc wrote:
fishmike wrote:I hope they cancel the sport. The whole sport. Then I wont care anymore how lousy the Melo trade was

And I hope you choke on a chicken wing while posting on a hockey board. The whole chicken wing.

I hate hockey
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10/18/2011  11:27 AM
fishmike wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
fishmike wrote:I hope they cancel the sport. The whole sport. Then I wont care anymore how lousy the Melo trade was

And I hope you choke on a chicken wing while posting on a hockey board. The whole chicken wing.

I hate hockey

take that back!

DLeethal wrote: Lol Rick needs a safe space
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10/18/2011  11:33 AM
SupremeCommander wrote:
fishmike wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
fishmike wrote:I hope they cancel the sport. The whole sport. Then I wont care anymore how lousy the Melo trade was

And I hope you choke on a chicken wing while posting on a hockey board. The whole chicken wing.

I hate hockey

take that back!

No, say that again! Amen brother, Hallelujah!

Simmons "Grantland" take on the lockout..........

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