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This is another reason I don't like Lebron (missed play last night, game 4 finals)
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martin
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6/8/2011  1:05 PM

Stern got to end this type of play. AWFUL

No shame, no integrity to the game.

I guess it's one thing if you are hit and add a bit to it, but this is another level.

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6/8/2011  2:08 PM
That play was one of the most blatant flops and missed calls this post-season. LBJ was blocking the refs view, so there's no way he could have made the right call. Perhaps some sort of coach's challenge should be implemented like in the NFL. It was clear, on review, that this was a sham. And great players like D-Wade and Lebron are masters of pulling it off.
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6/8/2011  2:56 PM
Moonangie wrote:That play was one of the most blatant flops and missed calls this post-season. LBJ was blocking the refs view, so there's no way he could have made the right call. Perhaps some sort of coach's challenge should be implemented like in the NFL. It was clear, on review, that this was a sham. And great players like D-Wade and Lebron are masters of pulling it off.

There should be a fine and/or suspension in blatant cases. The league can review after games and if they determine it was undoubtedly a flop, fine and suspend the player.

martin
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6/8/2011  3:01 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
Moonangie wrote:That play was one of the most blatant flops and missed calls this post-season. LBJ was blocking the refs view, so there's no way he could have made the right call. Perhaps some sort of coach's challenge should be implemented like in the NFL. It was clear, on review, that this was a sham. And great players like D-Wade and Lebron are masters of pulling it off.

There should be a fine and/or suspension in blatant cases. The league can review after games and if they determine it was undoubtedly a flop, fine and suspend the player.

completely agree.

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6/8/2011  3:06 PM
Well, in 1990s WWF, Jesse "The Body" Ventura used to say: "Win if you can, lose if you must, but always cheat and never get caught."
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6/8/2011  3:29 PM
martin wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Moonangie wrote:That play was one of the most blatant flops and missed calls this post-season. LBJ was blocking the refs view, so there's no way he could have made the right call. Perhaps some sort of coach's challenge should be implemented like in the NFL. It was clear, on review, that this was a sham. And great players like D-Wade and Lebron are masters of pulling it off.

There should be a fine and/or suspension in blatant cases. The league can review after games and if they determine it was undoubtedly a flop, fine and suspend the player.

completely agree.

this is a very good idea.

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6/8/2011  3:33 PM
How many here complained as Gallo did this nightly??
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6/8/2011  3:39 PM
holfresh wrote:How many here complained as Gallo did this nightly??

big difference. I don't think LeBron was even touched on that play.

Lots of shades of grey

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6/8/2011  3:43 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/8/2011  3:44 PM
holfresh wrote:How many here complained as Gallo did this nightly??

Dirk is flopping champion yet no mention of his flopping in the series.


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6/8/2011  3:51 PM
I have no problem when they sell an actual foul! It's the blatant flops with no contact I hate. Flopping is in every contact sport. Officials have to be able to get together on those if it's challenged.
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6/8/2011  4:37 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/8/2011  4:39 PM
AnubisADL wrote:
holfresh wrote:How many here complained as Gallo did this nightly??

Dirk is flopping champion yet no mention of his flopping in the series.


uh, Dirk was clearly hit on that play. he created the contact, but that is a skill all the great players have. the announcers (who are Rockets announcers and biased) are wrong - Scola left his feet and broke the plane between he and Dirk. that is a text book foul.

On his play, Lebron FAKED the contact, dribbling into the corner on a move he clearly wasn't going to score on. it's pathetic.

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6/8/2011  5:14 PM
crzymdups wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
holfresh wrote:How many here complained as Gallo did this nightly??

Dirk is flopping champion yet no mention of his flopping in the series.


uh, Dirk was clearly hit on that play. he created the contact, but that is a skill all the great players have. the announcers (who are Rockets announcers and biased) are wrong - Scola left his feet and broke the plane between he and Dirk. that is a text book foul.

On his play, Lebron FAKED the contact, dribbling into the corner on a move he clearly wasn't going to score on. it's pathetic.

You're right. I looked at it twice. Dirk probably exaggerated but he definitely was fouled.

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6/8/2011  5:39 PM
to me there is a world of difference between what LeBron did and what Dirk did in the above vid.

Dirk was fouled and maybe accentuated the body contact to draw attention to the actual foul. As a fan, I have no prob with that.

LeBron and Bosh in a previous playoff game showed themselves to be ***** material.

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6/8/2011  6:39 PM
By that same token I guess everyone hates Jordan. He would shoot the ball and smack his own wrist and get a foul call. It is what it is.
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6/8/2011  7:15 PM
Killa4luv wrote:By that same token I guess everyone hates Jordan. He would shoot the ball and smack his own wrist and get a foul call. It is what it is.

quite frankly, I never remember that.

I remember him getting every touch foul. I remember the Pistons mugging him to death. But never like what LeBron pulled.

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6/9/2011  8:53 AM
martin wrote:
Killa4luv wrote:By that same token I guess everyone hates Jordan. He would shoot the ball and smack his own wrist and get a foul call. It is what it is.

quite frankly, I never remember that.

I remember him getting every touch foul. I remember the Pistons mugging him to death. But never like what LeBron pulled.

i dont either. i heard about from someone who played with him. i think it was will purdue. they said did other players hate him for it? he said no they started to do it themselves.

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6/9/2011  8:59 AM
Perdue played five seasons with Michael Jordan, so he knows it’s not beneath the best player in the game to resort to gamesmanship to help his team win.

‘‘Jordan used to have this thing where he would shoot the ball and as he would follow through on the shot, he would hit his own wrist, so you would hear the slapping noise and the official would blow the whistle,’’ Perdue said.

Did that rankle Jordan’s opponents that the greatest player in the game would stoop to that level to get a break?

‘‘No,’’ Perdue said. ‘‘They started copying it.’’

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6/9/2011  9:32 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/9/2011  9:32 AM
Killa4luv wrote:Perdue played five seasons with Michael Jordan, so he knows it’s not beneath the best player in the game to resort to gamesmanship to help his team win.

‘‘Jordan used to have this thing where he would shoot the ball and as he would follow through on the shot, he would hit his own wrist, so you would hear the slapping noise and the official would blow the whistle,’’ Perdue said.

Did that rankle Jordan’s opponents that the greatest player in the game would stoop to that level to get a break?

‘‘No,’’ Perdue said. ‘‘They started copying it.’’


How can you subtly hit your own wrist loud enough so that everyone hears it without what you're doing being obvious. I can't visualize that happening.
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6/9/2011  9:59 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
Killa4luv wrote:Perdue played five seasons with Michael Jordan, so he knows it’s not beneath the best player in the game to resort to gamesmanship to help his team win.

‘‘Jordan used to have this thing where he would shoot the ball and as he would follow through on the shot, he would hit his own wrist, so you would hear the slapping noise and the official would blow the whistle,’’ Perdue said.

Did that rankle Jordan’s opponents that the greatest player in the game would stoop to that level to get a break?

‘‘No,’’ Perdue said. ‘‘They started copying it.’’


How can you subtly hit your own wrist loud enough so that everyone hears it without what you're doing being obvious. I can't visualize that happening.

right. I would have to say that it's bogus.

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6/9/2011  10:57 AM

Maybe someone is boneing up on Gloria James again?

Watching the series its seems to me that Lebron knows if Wade is in rythem and Bosh in engaged the team does do better. When Lebron takes over Wade gets headaches and Bosh vagina starts to hurt.

Anyone read Bosh wants his babymomma to bring the two year old into town so he can "share" the moment with her? Think its genuine or done for image? These guys come off as very shallow. Wade especially. He could have played in chicago and been with his kids instead of superfriends sausagefest.

Go Mavs!!!!!!!

This is another reason I don't like Lebron (missed play last night, game 4 finals)

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