As for AC, definitely resign him for a minimum. He's got cajones but he's old, too.

Killa4luv wrote:Kenneth Faried is all the rage on this board, but i'm pretty sure he wont be picked, and he really shouldn't be.

He is super raw offensively. Yes he hustles hard for loose balls, and grabs alot of balls in college. But he is a project who is 1 dimensional who plays the same position as one of our best players and is undersized in terms of height and 'girth'. lol. I don't get it. Add to that the fact the he is not a great man to man defender. We can't afford to pick a guy with his skillset. unless he's 6-10+.

Totally agree about Faried. He's not a center, so for the time that we have Melo and Stat he is a bench guy.

Juice wrote:

Andrew wrote:

Killa4luv wrote:Kenneth Faried is all the rage on this board, but i'm pretty sure he wont be picked, and he really shouldn't be.

He is super raw offensively. Yes he hustles hard for loose balls, and grabs alot of balls in college. But he is a project who is 1 dimensional who plays the same position as one of our best players and is undersized in terms of height and 'girth'. lol. I don't get it. Add to that the fact the he is not a great man to man defender. We can't afford to pick a guy with his skillset. unless he's 6-10+.

Totally agree about Faried. He's not a center, so for the time that we have Melo and Stat he is a bench guy.

Shawne Williams gets a look before he does too at the 4 spot....I think the team wants a point guard as we've managed to go through 3 drafts PASSING on many of them.

Plus Billups got extended and is going in for another MRI as we speak

Shawne Williams got looks at the 4 spot cause after trade Knicks didn't have anyone, more a factor of a lame roster than anything.

franco12 wrote:With Melo and Stat- it be great to have a PG that can set them up, but honest, their talents should be enough to score on their own. We should be able to get by with a PG by committee - Toney Douglas as a kind of Charlie Ward/Chris Childs.

Where we get killed is on the boards. I don't care if Faried is undersized as long as he has the motor and heart to grab boards. Because we really don't have anyone that has that hunger.

completely disagree. Did you see Stat early on in the year? He tried the role of a guy who initiated his own offense and it failed a lot. See him with Nash-type and watch the beauty of the PnR where all Amare has to do is finish at rim or make open jumpshot.

IMHO Faried is nice if you already have a C and need beef off the bench. Knicks need rebounders, but they need defense and PG more.

martin wrote:

Juice wrote:

Andrew wrote:

Killa4luv wrote:Kenneth Faried is all the rage on this board, but i'm pretty sure he wont be picked, and he really shouldn't be.

He is super raw offensively. Yes he hustles hard for loose balls, and grabs alot of balls in college. But he is a project who is 1 dimensional who plays the same position as one of our best players and is undersized in terms of height and 'girth'. lol. I don't get it. Add to that the fact the he is not a great man to man defender. We can't afford to pick a guy with his skillset. unless he's 6-10+.

Totally agree about Faried. He's not a center, so for the time that we have Melo and Stat he is a bench guy.

Shawne Williams gets a look before he does too at the 4 spot....I think the team wants a point guard as we've managed to go through 3 drafts PASSING on many of them.

Plus Billups got extended and is going in for another MRI as we speak

Shawne Williams got looks at the 4 spot cause after trade Knicks didn't have anyone, more a factor of a lame roster than anything.

Before the trade Williams was playing minutes at big rotation with Turiaf off the bench

I think D'AnToni likes to use 3/4 finesse players as bigs or say create a stretch from the 4 spot

Marion
Diaw
Gallo
Chandler
Harrington
Williams

Couple that with his penchant to go small

martin wrote:

franco12 wrote:With Melo and Stat- it be great to have a PG that can set them up, but honest, their talents should be enough to score on their own. We should be able to get by with a PG by committee - Toney Douglas as a kind of Charlie Ward/Chris Childs.

Where we get killed is on the boards. I don't care if Faried is undersized as long as he has the motor and heart to grab boards. Because we really don't have anyone that has that hunger.

completely disagree. Did you see Stat early on in the year? He tried the role of a guy who initiated his own offense and it failed a lot. See him with Nash-type and watch the beauty of the PnR where all Amare has to do is finish at rim or make open jumpshot.

IMHO Faried is nice if you already have a C and need beef off the bench. Knicks need rebounders, but they need defense and PG more.

Yes- I did.

But, with Melo, and a full off season, and new coach , then I think Melo's play making abilities should be maximized - e.g., lots of action with the two of them on the same side of the court.

Also- we have Chauncy still for one more year.

This is all in - so, with Chauncy, Melo and Stat - we need an inside presence and defense. I think our biggest weakness on defense was giving up additional possessions. Limit that, and I think that is the quickest, easiest way to improve.

That said- I will trust Walsh to make the best pick possible based on talent, and if that is a PG we are developing for the future, then great.

But I don't think we should be picking on MDA and his system and needs, as I think he is gone after this season. Baring miracle.

franco12 wrote:

martin wrote:

franco12 wrote:With Melo and Stat- it be great to have a PG that can set them up, but honest, their talents should be enough to score on their own. We should be able to get by with a PG by committee - Toney Douglas as a kind of Charlie Ward/Chris Childs.

Where we get killed is on the boards. I don't care if Faried is undersized as long as he has the motor and heart to grab boards. Because we really don't have anyone that has that hunger.

completely disagree. Did you see Stat early on in the year? He tried the role of a guy who initiated his own offense and it failed a lot. See him with Nash-type and watch the beauty of the PnR where all Amare has to do is finish at rim or make open jumpshot.

IMHO Faried is nice if you already have a C and need beef off the bench. Knicks need rebounders, but they need defense and PG more.

Yes- I did.

But, with Melo, and a full off season, and new coach , then I think Melo's play making abilities should be maximized - e.g., lots of action with the two of them on the same side of the court.

Also- we have Chauncy still for one more year.

This is all in - so, with Chauncy, Melo and Stat - we need an inside presence and defense. I think our biggest weakness on defense was giving up additional possessions. Limit that, and I think that is the quickest, easiest way to improve.

That said- I will trust Walsh to make the best pick possible based on talent, and if that is a PG we are developing for the future, then great.

But I don't think we should be picking on MDA and his system and needs, as I think he is gone after this season. Baring miracle.

MDA's basic system is PnR, this is nothing special, so I don't even put him into the equation. I am talking about Amare and his needs; he needs a guy who can set him up otherwise he is just a jumpshooting big man.

Also, insofar as I can tell, Melo has never been a pass-first or a Scottie Pippen type SF, right?

I don't understand the all-in mentality. Knicks ain't winning any championship next year. It's a building process towards Championship that will likely take 2+ years.