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Looks like we have a keeper(Shawne Williams)
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unstopaball12
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4/29/2011  9:55 AM
http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=19610

The NBA is about to embark on a summer of demands.

Commissioner David Stern reportedly wants to reduce the players' cut of Basketball Related Income from 57% to 45%. The players want fewer restrictions on free agency as well as new guidelines for age requirements. And once all that is agreed upon, free agency can finally begin.

Maybe that's why Knicks forward Shawne Williams is so refreshing. The soon-to-be free agent outplayed his near-minimum salary this year; but he isn't making any grandiose demands. Williams is open to practically any deal that keeps him in New York.

"That's what I want to do," Williams told HOOPSWORLD after the Knicks were eliminated from the playoffs by the Celtics. "I just want to get familiar with one organization. I don't like the journey, hopping around.

"It don't have to be long term," he said of the deal. "It can be one year. Whatever helps. I'm not trying to break the bank because I'm not thinking that's realistic. I'm just trying to get in and play."

There has been no shortage of stories on Williams' transformation from first-round character problem to the Knicks' 3-point marksman, but that's because he continues to impress everyone who thought they knew him. Where once he may have been considered too immature for the NBA, now the 25-year-old is making the savvy decisions of a veteran.

For instance, Williams plans to work with Joe Abunassar at Impact's training facility in Las Vegas before moving on to the IMG Academy in Florida. He even has his own trainer, but that's not something he likes to discuss.

"I got a private trainer, but I'm keeping it a secret so nobody will hire him," he said. "I'm probably going to do that over the summer.

"You got to be selfish with your trainers and your court time because you've got players here that are trying to get better every day too, and they'll steal them, quick."

Back when Williams' days in the NBA looked numbered, he didn't take conditioning so seriously. Knicks president Donnie Walsh, who was with the Pacers when they drafted Williams in 2006, says his weight may have hit 280 pounds.

"I was overweight," Williams said. "That's all that matters."

But even now, with his weight at its lowest mark in years, Williams still thinks he can improve his conditioning.

"You know that's one of my biggest things, getting my weight down," he continued. "I feel like I still wasn't at the playing weight that they wanted me at. They wanted to take it off slow instead of quick. Hopefully next year I'll probably be at 230, 228… The weight kind of helped me this year because I played the 5 and the 4. I had to wrestle with bigger guys.

"Bulking up, but at the same time, getting the weight down. More like [Amar'e Stoudemire]. I hope I look just like STAT."

Walsh doesn't know the terms of the next collective bargaining agreement, which will likely dictate the chances he brings Williams back, but Walsh does know that Williams made a much better impression on him this season.

"He played well," Walsh said. "I think Shawne has done all the right things this year and that's why he's having success this year… I think Mike liked his game and that helps when a coach likes his game."

As it turned out, D'Antoni liked Williams because he came into camp early and handled some tough conversations off the bat.

"He came early and that's what Mike saw and what he liked," Walsh said. "And he earned it… He knew. He understood. I talked to him about it and said 'Zero tolerance.' He knew. He didn't realize when he was younger, but he realized 'I can't go that way.' As far as I know, he hasn't."

"That was anywhere I went, I knew there was gonna be zero tolerance." Williams said. "It's not because of them. It's because of me. It's because of the past that I had, that I've shown. It's only right what he did. I'm just appreciative that he gave me the chance, the opportunity to get a basketball back in my hand.

"When I first got here, Mike told me, he pulled me into his office and was like, 'You can try to make this team, but I already have my guys. But you've got a chance to be one of my guys with hard work."" Williams continued. "Donnie told me the same thing. When I first got here he was like, 'Shunnie,' he always calls me 'Shunnie,' he was like, 'Shunnie, this is different.' He was really preparing me for the scenario. He was like, '[Shawne, you] don't get a guaranteed contract. Now you've got to go out and work for it.' So from there to now, it's about a hundred or so miles. I'm proud of myself actually."

And there's plenty to be proud about. Williams played two new positions (power forward and center), and hit a career-high 40.1% of his 3-point attempts. His rebounding rate (percentage of possessions that end in a rebound), also hit a career high of 15.5.

"I hope it's a case where the bad things that happened to him, turned him around," Walsh said.

There's little argument there. Williams may have behaved selfishly when he was getting arrested for marijuana and codeine earlier in his career, but he's not behaving that way now. Williams understands that the Knicks have done more for him than he could ever do for the franchise. That's why he isn't making any demands—just asking for a chance to continue this season's hard work.

"I don't know what coach is thinking, I don't know what Donnie's thinking," Williams said. "I just want to thank Donnie for even giving me the opportunity. If it weren't for him and coach D'Antoni, there's no telling where I'd be right now. I'd be watching all this on TV... I wouldn't have gotten a start in The Garden. I'm really thankful."


A great read... this guy matured alot.. he has toughness which i like and seems like a guy who wants to improve. I hope Donnie signs him to a 3 year contract with the third as a team option

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4/29/2011  10:06 AM
what a breath of fresh air. He's a tough dude that never backs down on the court. At 25 years old he "gets it" and I hope he's part of the team for a long time.
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4/29/2011  10:14 AM
I hope Billy Walker follows this guy.
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4/29/2011  10:25 AM
I remember back when we drafted Balkman, Isiah was looking at Williams. Hope he does get a good contract.

And I really hoped he has learned you let other people get your drugs when you are an NBA player.

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4/29/2011  10:37 AM
A cheap re-up of Williams would be ideal for us.
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4/29/2011  10:41 AM
He says that until another team offers him a 2 year 6 million dollar deal.
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4/29/2011  10:45 AM
Better than a keeper. If Extra E comes to training camp focused and in Stat-like condition, expect him to push for a starting role

Starters

C - (v) 6'11 with soft hands and a sturdy base
PF - Amare Stoudemire
SF - Carmelo Anthony
SG - Shawne Williams, add a dribble drive pass GO and collect $200
PG - Chauncey Billups

Second Shift (rotation minutes)

C - (v) 6'10 with one dependable post move
F - (v) vicious rebounder and large body, Jamie Skeen would be perfect
F - Landry Fields, the hottest sophomore in the GaaaaaMMMeeeee!
G - Bill Walker, size wins every time
G - (v) a yoot with Mike Conley Jr jets in his shoes

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4/29/2011  10:49 AM
I don't know Earl, I think With Melo and Stat here he is locked in as the back up 3/4 guy. Still he does enough this to be the first big off the bench and be a 7th man IMO.
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4/29/2011  10:52 AM
Thanks for posting unstopaball12. After years of Marbury, Curry, Jerome James and other assorted entitled knuckleheads it feels good to read something like this about a Knick.
Let's try to elevate the level of discourse in this byeetch. Please
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4/29/2011  10:55 AM
"When I first got here, Mike told me, he pulled me into his office and was like, 'You can try to make this team, but I already have my guys. But you've got a chance to be one of my guys with hard work."" Williams continued. "Donnie told me the same thing. When I first got here he was like, 'Shunnie,' he always calls me 'Shunnie,' he was like, 'Shunnie, this is different.' He was really preparing me for the scenario. He was like, '[Shawne, you] don't get a guaranteed contract. Now you've got to go out and work for it.' So from there to now, it's about a hundred or so miles. I'm proud of myself actually."

this quote from d'antoni is quite telling to me. for everyone that says that mike has trouble communicating with player's, it's quite clear he doesn't. i think the problem is that players don't like what he's communicating to them. a guy like AR who has all the talent in the world was probably told the same exact thing that shawne williams was told and instead of working hard like shawne, he pouted and figured he'd never breakthrough and that's why his ass is in another uniform. guys like AR are used to be just being given everything instead of working for it. no one gets a free pass.

on the article - really liked what shawne provided for us off the bench and as a spot-starter and im glad he WANTS to play here. he should be here for awhile.

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4/29/2011  11:04 AM
fishmike wrote:what a breath of fresh air. He's a tough dude that never backs down on the court. At 25 years old he "gets it" and I hope he's part of the team for a long time.

+1

That was a great read. Shawne really has his head in the right place, and with the overhaul on the organizations culture the past couple years, he's a guy I hope is around for a while.

That hand injury threw off his shot at the end of the year, but I look forward to seeing him back and as deadly from 3 as ever.

Do what you want with the bench, Donnie, but we all know this guy is a keeper.

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4/29/2011  11:06 AM
Anji wrote:I don't know Earl, I think With Melo and Stat here he is locked in as the back up 3/4 guy. Still he does enough this to be the first big off the bench and be a 7th man IMO.

Rather than locking players into roles, why not project their development? Based on the evidence of his "rookie" season and the stated commitment to improve his conditioning, it would seem that a sculpted 225 pound Shawne Williams might demonstrate more fire and desire than he did this season.

6'9 at the two guard (with three point range) would seem to pose some intriguing matchup problems and open up the court for better spacing.

One year of experience, with a taste of playing on Broadway, can be a beautiful thing.

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4/29/2011  11:08 AM
misterearl wrote:
Anji wrote:I don't know Earl, I think With Melo and Stat here he is locked in as the back up 3/4 guy. Still he does enough this to be the first big off the bench and be a 7th man IMO.

Rather than locking players into roles, why not project their development? Based on the evidence of his "rookie" season and the stated commitment to improve his conditioning, it would seem that a sculpted 225 pound Shawne Williams might demonstrate more fire and desire than he did this season.

6'9 at the two guard (with three point range) would seem to pose some intriguing matchup problems and open up the court for better spacing.

One year of experience, with a taste of playing on Broadway, can be a beautiful thing.

Earl, do you really think Shawne is quick enough to stay in front of the other SGs in the league? He's gonna get torched.

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4/29/2011  11:15 AM
The Answer Man Believes Shawne When He Says He Can Be Better

Q. Panos - do you really think Shawne is quick enough to stay in front of the other SGs in the league?

A. If he guesses wrong a pump fake or jab step, his extra length will be a nice advantage to compensate. At 6'9, with an imposing wingspan and decent hops, Extra E can alter plenty of shots from other angles.

The real fun starts when opposing two guards need to get back on defense and guard HIM.

Can you say target practice?

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4/29/2011  11:45 AM
he will die as a two guard. he is too slow.. he is a perfect 3/4 back up.. he can be like our lamar odom, im not saying he is going to be as good as odom but he will have a similar role. he will be the first forward off the bench
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4/29/2011  11:52 AM
This MAN grew the eff up....


"Purp"

"Purpetrator"

"Drizzank"

"Sizzurp"

"Lean"

"Different Texture"


Re-Up Son!

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4/29/2011  12:09 PM
misterearl wrote:The Answer Man Believes Shawne When He Says He Can Be Better

Q. Panos - do you really think Shawne is quick enough to stay in front of the other SGs in the league?

A. If he guesses wrong a pump fake or jab step, his extra length will be a nice advantage to compensate. At 6'9, with an imposing wingspan and decent hops, Extra E can alter plenty of shots from other angles.

The real fun starts when opposing two guards need to get back on defense and guard HIM.

Can you say target practice?


I'd rather see Melo guarding SG's and have Shawne stick to guarding SFs. But I don't think either is a great idea.
I miss John Starks.

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4/29/2011  12:25 PM
We were delusional to be impatient

I miss Trevor Ariza

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4/29/2011  12:33 PM
AnubisADL wrote:He says that until another team offers him a 2 year 6 million dollar deal.

your right, anyone would love to have a 6 10 fwd pt shooter who can play 3 positions.

He certainly has to expand his game, but he has taking some nice steps, definitely a solid 6th man

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4/29/2011  12:37 PM
misterearl wrote:We were delusional to be impatient

I miss Trevor Ariza

Is Chandler still already better than Ariza?

Looks like we have a keeper(Shawne Williams)

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