orangeblobman wrote:

Olbrannon wrote:Everybody seems fixated on the lack of the p-n-r ..thought Boston was supposed to be one of the best defending it....not like it's gonna be there all the time. And when it is you have to finish (Jeffries) no point in running it otherwise

i see jeffries open many times but he is garbage so no ball for him. if he could only finish, ah...

There was a reason he was open...

Sangfroid wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:That guy is amazingly inept on offense.. its mind blowing how bad he is on offense..doesn't make sense at all

I understand his length, 6'11" can do a lot, but for Shelden Williams to languish on the bench is amazing.

bad ankle?

The coaching was fine yesterday- but I wasn't enamored with the game Chauncey was playing. The PG has to keep the integrity of the offense and execute out there. He did fine in the 2nd, but was mediocre otherwise. Anthony Carter might need to get a heavier dose of minutes.

holfresh wrote:

fishmike wrote:I thought the coaching was excellent... whats the beef? Amare destroyed them inside, the defense was great, even the late game calls were fine. We lost because our star player shot 5-18. We cant win like that, and a TON of those where great looks that seemed to go halfway down and pop out. I think everyone here agrees Melo will bounce back and have some good games, if not some monster games. The problem is we got a monster game from Amare. I mean 12-18 and 28 points in a defensive struggle is nothing short of a dominating performance. Expecting that from him over and over is too much.

This is just a problem with out we are presently constructed. We just cant win a playoff game without a big performance from both Amare and Melo. One just isnt good enough.

Yeah....Boston's coaching was excellent..He called two plays at the end of the game that worked..Alley hoops to KG and the big Trey ...He also had a time out when he needed it..He had his team crashing the boards..Look at the offensive rebound stats..Lopsided...Coaching was excellent..just not ours..

Amare didn't touch the ball the last seven possessions..SSOL..

i can pretty much tell you what happened over the last 2:30 of the game. Would you care to let me know how you would have done it differently?

holfresh wrote:

martin wrote:

holfresh wrote:

fishmike wrote:I thought the coaching was excellent... whats the beef? Amare destroyed them inside, the defense was great, even the late game calls were fine. We lost because our star player shot 5-18. We cant win like that, and a TON of those where great looks that seemed to go halfway down and pop out. I think everyone here agrees Melo will bounce back and have some good games, if not some monster games. The problem is we got a monster game from Amare. I mean 12-18 and 28 points in a defensive struggle is nothing short of a dominating performance. Expecting that from him over and over is too much.

This is just a problem with out we are presently constructed. We just cant win a playoff game without a big performance from both Amare and Melo. One just isnt good enough.

Yeah....Boston's coaching was excellent..He called two plays at the end of the game that worked..Alley hoops to KG and the big Trey ...He also had a time out when he needed it..He had his team crashing the boards..Look at the offensive rebound stats..Lopsided...Coaching was excellent..just not ours..

Amare didn't touch the ball the last seven possessions..SSOL..

i can pretty much tell you what happened over the last 2:30 of the game. Would you care to let me know how you would have done it differently?

Amare would have gotten touches( Melo 5 touches, (took 4 threes, one offensive foul), Douglas one three)...The hot hand would get the ball, Melo was cold...U know what, scratch that...Melo was the other guy taking the shots at the end of the game and u can't go against that...My problem is the offense that emphasizes the quick three...Every possession in the playoffs is like gold...Taking quick threes down the stretch for me isn't a good at all...Both of our guys can get to the basket, that should be the first option... The defensive rotation against Garnett was horrible... We didn't have a time out, maybe the last one was called because of Billups' injury...It's just tough for me to see why you don't have a 20 left over for that point in the game especially when you on the road playing a close game...

Your thoughts are all over the place.

Within the last ~2:30, the Knicks shots:

Amare scores on drive to basket on dunk.
Next possession, Amare gets offensive foul taking ball to rim on pass out to TD that hits but doesn't count.
Turiaf is wide up underneath basket but fumbles ball and gets blocked; should have been easy basket. I think Melo may have missed rushed 3 point shot early in clock on rebound.
Melo gets stripped of ball by Pierce going to basket near high post.
Billups drives to basket and gets hurt.
TD makes huge 3 with 37 seconds left.
Melo offensive foul on post up.
Melo misses long 3 at buzzer.

SSOL doesn't really come into play at all, and really there was like 1 play where Amare could have gotten the ball and it was the TD 3point shot.

martin wrote:

holfresh wrote:

martin wrote:

holfresh wrote:

fishmike wrote:I thought the coaching was excellent... whats the beef? Amare destroyed them inside, the defense was great, even the late game calls were fine. We lost because our star player shot 5-18. We cant win like that, and a TON of those where great looks that seemed to go halfway down and pop out. I think everyone here agrees Melo will bounce back and have some good games, if not some monster games. The problem is we got a monster game from Amare. I mean 12-18 and 28 points in a defensive struggle is nothing short of a dominating performance. Expecting that from him over and over is too much.

This is just a problem with out we are presently constructed. We just cant win a playoff game without a big performance from both Amare and Melo. One just isnt good enough.

Yeah....Boston's coaching was excellent..He called two plays at the end of the game that worked..Alley hoops to KG and the big Trey ...He also had a time out when he needed it..He had his team crashing the boards..Look at the offensive rebound stats..Lopsided...Coaching was excellent..just not ours..

Amare didn't touch the ball the last seven possessions..SSOL..

i can pretty much tell you what happened over the last 2:30 of the game. Would you care to let me know how you would have done it differently?

Amare would have gotten touches( Melo 5 touches, (took 4 threes, one offensive foul), Douglas one three)...The hot hand would get the ball, Melo was cold...U know what, scratch that...Melo was the other guy taking the shots at the end of the game and u can't go against that...My problem is the offense that emphasizes the quick three...Every possession in the playoffs is like gold...Taking quick threes down the stretch for me isn't a good at all...Both of our guys can get to the basket, that should be the first option... The defensive rotation against Garnett was horrible... We didn't have a time out, maybe the last one was called because of Billups' injury...It's just tough for me to see why you don't have a 20 left over for that point in the game especially when you on the road playing a close game...

Your thoughts are all over the place.

Within the last ~2:30, the Knicks shots:

Amare scores on drive to basket on dunk.
Next possession, Amare gets offensive foul taking ball to rim on pass out to TD that hits but doesn't count.
Turiaf is wide up underneath basket but fumbles ball and gets blocked; should have been easy basket. I think Melo may have missed rushed 3 point shot early in clock on rebound.
Melo gets stripped of ball by Pierce going to basket near high post.
Billups drives to basket and gets hurt.
TD makes huge 3 with 37 seconds left.
Melo offensive foul on post up.
Melo misses long 3 at buzzer.

SSOL doesn't really come into play at all, and really there was like 1 play where Amare could have gotten the ball and it was the TD 3point shot.

In the last 2:10, Amare didn't touch the ball...Turiaf missed is when Melo got stripped(look for STAT)...Melo took a quick three after Billups hit the deck with a fresh 24 sec clock(SSOL, look for STAT)...Douglas hit a quick three(SSOL)...Melo offensive foul( not SSOL, iso, Look for STAT)..Melo quick three iso long three(SSOL)I would have drove but that second guessing...The hottest guy in a Knick uni didn't touch the ball the last 2:10 sec...

Ill say this, you hear it from Clyde all the time, it's fundamental, look for the hot hand....You hear Magic Johnson say it all the time...There is something to that... It's just not a saying..

martin wrote:

holfresh wrote:

martin wrote:

holfresh wrote:

martin wrote:

holfresh wrote:

fishmike wrote:I thought the coaching was excellent... whats the beef? Amare destroyed them inside, the defense was great, even the late game calls were fine. We lost because our star player shot 5-18. We cant win like that, and a TON of those where great looks that seemed to go halfway down and pop out. I think everyone here agrees Melo will bounce back and have some good games, if not some monster games. The problem is we got a monster game from Amare. I mean 12-18 and 28 points in a defensive struggle is nothing short of a dominating performance. Expecting that from him over and over is too much.

This is just a problem with out we are presently constructed. We just cant win a playoff game without a big performance from both Amare and Melo. One just isnt good enough.

Yeah....Boston's coaching was excellent..He called two plays at the end of the game that worked..Alley hoops to KG and the big Trey ...He also had a time out when he needed it..He had his team crashing the boards..Look at the offensive rebound stats..Lopsided...Coaching was excellent..just not ours..

Amare didn't touch the ball the last seven possessions..SSOL..

i can pretty much tell you what happened over the last 2:30 of the game. Would you care to let me know how you would have done it differently?

Amare would have gotten touches( Melo 5 touches, (took 4 threes, one offensive foul), Douglas one three)...The hot hand would get the ball, Melo was cold...U know what, scratch that...Melo was the other guy taking the shots at the end of the game and u can't go against that...My problem is the offense that emphasizes the quick three...Every possession in the playoffs is like gold...Taking quick threes down the stretch for me isn't a good at all...Both of our guys can get to the basket, that should be the first option... The defensive rotation against Garnett was horrible... We didn't have a time out, maybe the last one was called because of Billups' injury...It's just tough for me to see why you don't have a 20 left over for that point in the game especially when you on the road playing a close game...

Your thoughts are all over the place.

Within the last ~2:30, the Knicks shots:

Amare scores on drive to basket on dunk.
Next possession, Amare gets offensive foul taking ball to rim on pass out to TD that hits but doesn't count.
Turiaf is wide up underneath basket but fumbles ball and gets blocked; should have been easy basket. I think Melo may have missed rushed 3 point shot early in clock on rebound.
Melo gets stripped of ball by Pierce going to basket near high post.
Billups drives to basket and gets hurt.
TD makes huge 3 with 37 seconds left.
Melo offensive foul on post up.
Melo misses long 3 at buzzer.

SSOL doesn't really come into play at all, and really there was like 1 play where Amare could have gotten the ball and it was the TD 3point shot.

In the last 2:10, Amare didn't touch the ball...Turiaf missed is when Melo got stripped(look for STAT)...Melo took a quick three after Billups hit the deck with a fresh 24 sec clock(SSOL, look for STAT)...Douglas hit a quick three(SSOL)...Melo offensive foul( not SSOL, iso, Look for STAT)..Melo quick three iso long three(SSOL)I would have drove but that second guessing...The hottest guy in a Knick uni didn't touch the ball the last 2:10 sec...

Ill say this, you hear it from Clyde all the time, it's fundamental, look for the hot hand....You hear Magic Johnson say it all the time...There is something to that... It's just not a saying..

<shruggs> All i see you doing is putting "SSOL" within your sentences without much attention payed to what was going on.

Martin we are taking quick threes when we can get better looks...Amare is unstoppable and we are still taking threes...How is it possible the hottest Knick and the guy that has carried us most of the season isn't touching the ball in the last 2:10 sec of game 1...The main concept of SSOL is pace and how many looks you can get...You are trying to make it about my grammar and my syntax and not the substance of what I'm saying because u know I'm right....