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Nalod
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4/11/2011  9:04 AM

give the man a little love. 7 game winning streak, Amare is resting, and its defense stops late in the game that is winning it.

Amare banged up as is Billups yet the team is rolling.

Can you shower love on Melo without some for MDA at the same time?

So its the coach when we lose and the stars when we win?

Fans are consistent and that never changes.

Im not expecting much in the playoffs but pringle boy not doing a bad job.

Extend his contract and let him finish the job.

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CashMoney
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4/11/2011  9:09 AM
I love what MDA has done this season. He has two two different rosters in the same year playing above .500 ball. The guy doesn't get enough love. There is not a coach in the NBA who has gone through what MDA has gone through in the last 3 years. He had the Knicks playing well when he first got here only to have the team blown up. I want to see what he can do with a set roster for an entire season.
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4/11/2011  9:11 AM
Winning streaks and losing steaks... I won't giv ehim kudos for another streak

I will, however, give him credit for getting the team to play well after a drastic overhaul with short notice. That deserves credit.

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CashMoney
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4/11/2011  9:12 AM
SupremeCommander wrote:Winning streaks and losing steaks... I won't giv ehim kudos for another streak

I will, however, give him credit for getting the team to play well after a drastic overhaul with short notice. That deserves credit.

According to trade haters, the losing streak had to do with trade rumors. If that's the case it's not MDA's fault.

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4/11/2011  10:30 AM
CashMoney wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:Winning streaks and losing steaks... I won't giv ehim kudos for another streak

I will, however, give him credit for getting the team to play well after a drastic overhaul with short notice. That deserves credit.

According to trade haters, the losing streak had to do with trade rumors. If that's the case it's not MDA's fault.

the trade was affecting both Nuggets and Knicks players. Is there any doubt? These guys are human... especially the younger guys. Its a huge distraction, wondering if your going to have new teammates, a new home, a new coach, where your career is going, etc etc

MDA has been harping on the need to improve defense since he's been here. Is he a good defensive coach? Does he hold players accountable for not playing defense? I would say he's weak in both areas, but he also hasnt had good defensive players either. Everyone talks about Thibs in Chi, but Dereck Rose is having an MVP season and everyone in the league knows his defense is a joke.

All you hear about (if you take the time to listen to MDA and read the articles) is the team continues to focus on defense defense and more defense.

Finally the Knicks are giving up fewer points and clamping dow late in games.

I give credit to both MDA and especially to Melo right now. Amare has been playing burnt out and Melo has been leading the charge on both ends. If the star players dont buy in the role players arent going to throw their bodies around for Diva's only interesting in scoring. Melo's done a full 180 degree from his first 8 games or so to his last 8.

Glad to see it.

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4/11/2011  10:37 AM
My take is the Nuggets were a better team and a deeper roster than the Knicks and with pretty much a set roster for the last few years better suited to deal with rumors. Besides Melo was the center piece and it was his creation so one would expect he can handle it. Billups a seasoned vet is also pretty callus to this kind of crap. They still I think underperformed.

Knicks on the other hand with younger players were certainly more fragile. You still had lots of issues regarding the revolving Center by commitee and the emergence of Rainman Felton and his subsequent trade. Very rare to ask a player to sign on board, really do very well then trade his ass. Sure it makes sense but not at the emotional level for him.

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4/11/2011  10:52 AM
mda is top 5 coach in league,

stupid to wish bad things on this great man

WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
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4/11/2011  11:00 AM
I thought MDA was taking more heat then he should, he's also made some adjustments like melo...amare being out was sort of a good thing, it jus gave melo a chance to really understand the system...

Good job with the rotation and getting the team to play smart..the ball movement has been really good..and the defense hasn't been great, but I always say, getting stops when you really need them is key to being a very good team

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4/11/2011  11:32 AM
fishmike wrote:
CashMoney wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:Winning streaks and losing steaks... I won't giv ehim kudos for another streak

I will, however, give him credit for getting the team to play well after a drastic overhaul with short notice. That deserves credit.

According to trade haters, the losing streak had to do with trade rumors. If that's the case it's not MDA's fault.

the trade was affecting both Nuggets and Knicks players. Is there any doubt? These guys are human... especially the younger guys. Its a huge distraction, wondering if your going to have new teammates, a new home, a new coach, where your career is going, etc etc

MDA has been harping on the need to improve defense since he's been here. Is he a good defensive coach? Does he hold players accountable for not playing defense? I would say he's weak in both areas, but he also hasnt had good defensive players either. Everyone talks about Thibs in Chi, but Dereck Rose is having an MVP season and everyone in the league knows his defense is a joke.

All you hear about (if you take the time to listen to MDA and read the articles) is the team continues to focus on defense defense and more defense.

Finally the Knicks are giving up fewer points and clamping dow late in games.

I give credit to both MDA and especially to Melo right now. Amare has been playing burnt out and Melo has been leading the charge on both ends. If the star players dont buy in the role players arent going to throw their bodies around for Diva's only interesting in scoring. Melo's done a full 180 degree from his first 8 games or so to his last 8.

Glad to see it.

Yeah I doubt the trade rumors affecting the players.....it's nothing more than an excuse that holds no water.

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4/11/2011  12:56 PM
I like Doritos better, because there's some "D" there.
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4/11/2011  1:35 PM
CashMoney wrote:
fishmike wrote:
CashMoney wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:Winning streaks and losing steaks... I won't giv ehim kudos for another streak

I will, however, give him credit for getting the team to play well after a drastic overhaul with short notice. That deserves credit.

According to trade haters, the losing streak had to do with trade rumors. If that's the case it's not MDA's fault.

the trade was affecting both Nuggets and Knicks players. Is there any doubt? These guys are human... especially the younger guys. Its a huge distraction, wondering if your going to have new teammates, a new home, a new coach, where your career is going, etc etc

MDA has been harping on the need to improve defense since he's been here. Is he a good defensive coach? Does he hold players accountable for not playing defense? I would say he's weak in both areas, but he also hasnt had good defensive players either. Everyone talks about Thibs in Chi, but Dereck Rose is having an MVP season and everyone in the league knows his defense is a joke.

All you hear about (if you take the time to listen to MDA and read the articles) is the team continues to focus on defense defense and more defense.

Finally the Knicks are giving up fewer points and clamping dow late in games.

I give credit to both MDA and especially to Melo right now. Amare has been playing burnt out and Melo has been leading the charge on both ends. If the star players dont buy in the role players arent going to throw their bodies around for Diva's only interesting in scoring. Melo's done a full 180 degree from his first 8 games or so to his last 8.

Glad to see it.

Yeah I doubt the trade rumors affecting the players.....it's nothing more than an excuse that holds no water.


you have to be kidding me. How long have you been watching sports? The coach admitted point blank he had talked to players and they were bothered by the rumors.
"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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4/11/2011  2:21 PM
Seems like it was Melo being blamed for everything two weeks ago..Towel on the head, Not playing on both ends, Melobury threads...How quickly we forget...
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4/11/2011  2:22 PM
No.
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4/11/2011  2:23 PM
Childs2Dudley wrote:No.

oh, you are so hipster

WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
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4/11/2011  2:26 PM
The Defense thing is always a combination of factors. You have to have the right roster makeup in terms of size and athletic ability, a couple of naturally gifted defensive players, hopefully your star players, good coaching and holding players accountable. We haven't had all of the right components but I think the effort from the coaching staff has been there.

Funny how much better the defense is when the team leaders actually step up and give max effort. We didn't change emphasis or schemes, the only change was a guy like melo stepping up and the team looks a lot better on D. If we can get STAT to be more aware and in position that would also make a big difference. Once the players are on the court it's up to them to execute. Personal accountability is more important than coaching IMO. You can stand there and coach till you're blue in the face, but if the players don't care what's it gonna mean? Also if you have a guy in the middle that has the physical ability and the desire to defend like Howard, don't you think that makes any coach look better defensively?

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4/11/2011  2:31 PM
nixluva wrote:The Defense thing is always a combination of factors. You have to have the right roster makeup in terms of size and athletic ability, a couple of naturally gifted defensive players, hopefully your star players, good coaching and holding players accountable. We haven't had all of the right components but I think the effort from the coaching staff has been there.

Funny how much better the defense is when the team leaders actually step up and give max effort. We didn't change emphasis or schemes, the only change was a guy like melo stepping up and the team looks a lot better on D. If we can get STAT to be more aware and in position that would also make a big difference. Once the players are on the court it's up to them to execute. Personal accountability is more important than coaching IMO. You can stand there and coach till you're blue in the face, but if the players don't care what's it gonna mean? Also if you have a guy in the middle that has the physical ability and the desire to defend like Howard, don't you think that makes any coach look better defensively?

The amount of free passes you give D'antoni time after time is just getting old. D'antoni doesn't care to get defensive type of players, because his focus is always on offensive playmakers and shotmakers. I've never heard him push for a defensive type of player, whether it was in Phoenix or NY. And I'm not sure what effort you're talking about, but I've never seen defensive effort on any D'antoni team.

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4/11/2011  3:00 PM
JrZyHuStLa wrote:
nixluva wrote:The Defense thing is always a combination of factors. You have to have the right roster makeup in terms of size and athletic ability, a couple of naturally gifted defensive players, hopefully your star players, good coaching and holding players accountable. We haven't had all of the right components but I think the effort from the coaching staff has been there.

Funny how much better the defense is when the team leaders actually step up and give max effort. We didn't change emphasis or schemes, the only change was a guy like melo stepping up and the team looks a lot better on D. If we can get STAT to be more aware and in position that would also make a big difference. Once the players are on the court it's up to them to execute. Personal accountability is more important than coaching IMO. You can stand there and coach till you're blue in the face, but if the players don't care what's it gonna mean? Also if you have a guy in the middle that has the physical ability and the desire to defend like Howard, don't you think that makes any coach look better defensively?

The amount of free passes you give D'antoni time after time is just getting old. D'antoni doesn't care to get defensive type of players, because his focus is always on offensive playmakers and shotmakers. I've never heard him push for a defensive type of player, whether it was in Phoenix or NY. And I'm not sure what effort you're talking about, but I've never seen defensive effort on any D'antoni team.

Mike isn't the GM of the Knicks, but he did push to bring back Jared, who is clearly a defensive player. He's had Turiaf playing all year and he's a defensive player. If you're a coach what you want are good TWO WAY players. While it's true that he puts emphasis on offense, it's not true that he doesn't care about D. Just cuz you keep saying it over and over again doesn't make it true. We all know that this coach is more about offense than D, but that doesn't mean that this team can't win. Just in case you forgot, you win in sports by outscoring your opponent.

The last 7 games this team has been defending and scoring enough to win. IMO this team is finally learning the level of effort it takes to win and that's a good sign.

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4/11/2011  3:08 PM
nixluva wrote:
JrZyHuStLa wrote:
nixluva wrote:The Defense thing is always a combination of factors. You have to have the right roster makeup in terms of size and athletic ability, a couple of naturally gifted defensive players, hopefully your star players, good coaching and holding players accountable. We haven't had all of the right components but I think the effort from the coaching staff has been there.

Funny how much better the defense is when the team leaders actually step up and give max effort. We didn't change emphasis or schemes, the only change was a guy like melo stepping up and the team looks a lot better on D. If we can get STAT to be more aware and in position that would also make a big difference. Once the players are on the court it's up to them to execute. Personal accountability is more important than coaching IMO. You can stand there and coach till you're blue in the face, but if the players don't care what's it gonna mean? Also if you have a guy in the middle that has the physical ability and the desire to defend like Howard, don't you think that makes any coach look better defensively?

The amount of free passes you give D'antoni time after time is just getting old. D'antoni doesn't care to get defensive type of players, because his focus is always on offensive playmakers and shotmakers. I've never heard him push for a defensive type of player, whether it was in Phoenix or NY. And I'm not sure what effort you're talking about, but I've never seen defensive effort on any D'antoni team.

We all know that this coach is more about offense than D

Which is why he needs to be fired.

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4/11/2011  3:20 PM
JrZyHuStLa wrote:
nixluva wrote:
JrZyHuStLa wrote:
nixluva wrote:The Defense thing is always a combination of factors. You have to have the right roster makeup in terms of size and athletic ability, a couple of naturally gifted defensive players, hopefully your star players, good coaching and holding players accountable. We haven't had all of the right components but I think the effort from the coaching staff has been there.

Funny how much better the defense is when the team leaders actually step up and give max effort. We didn't change emphasis or schemes, the only change was a guy like melo stepping up and the team looks a lot better on D. If we can get STAT to be more aware and in position that would also make a big difference. Once the players are on the court it's up to them to execute. Personal accountability is more important than coaching IMO. You can stand there and coach till you're blue in the face, but if the players don't care what's it gonna mean? Also if you have a guy in the middle that has the physical ability and the desire to defend like Howard, don't you think that makes any coach look better defensively?

The amount of free passes you give D'antoni time after time is just getting old. D'antoni doesn't care to get defensive type of players, because his focus is always on offensive playmakers and shotmakers. I've never heard him push for a defensive type of player, whether it was in Phoenix or NY. And I'm not sure what effort you're talking about, but I've never seen defensive effort on any D'antoni team.

We all know that this coach is more about offense than D

Which is why he needs to be fired.


If he was all about D with this roster it wouldn't mean that we'd be in a better position to win in the playoffs. There are a lot of teams that statistically play better D than we do that aren't in the playoffs. The Bucks, Bobcats & Nets are statistically better than us on D and where has that gotten them? There's more to the game than just defense.
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4/11/2011  3:54 PM
guys like Shawne Williams, Sheldon Williams, Douglas, Walker and Carter have proven that the knicks can go deep. I want to see MDA utilize his bench.
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