NYKBocker wrote:It would be stupid to fire MDA. As stated before, he has done a very good job with all the change that has been done every year that he has been here with in-season trades.

If there are a select few coaches who suddenly become available that clearly want to be here, I would hire them. These select few do not include Mark Jackson and Patrick Ewing. I am talking about Doc Rivers, Jerry Sloan and Greg Popovic.

Hiring Mike Brown as a defensive assistant would be a great idea.

crzymdups wrote:I think to really contend for a ring, our chances would be better with JVG. But I admit it's not really fair to judge D'Antoni on this season's team as it was changed completely with 30 games to go. He built something really nice for the first 50 games and now we have to re-build the roster again.

I hope Donnie stays and puts an emphasis on defense in the middle. That's the most important thing. If D'Antoni needs to be replaced, that will be clear by the end of next season.

Agree with you fully. Lets see how he does in the playoffs this season and lets see how things hold up next season. After all these years, it's amazing how it's still too early to judge fully.

JVG is never coming back.

Allanfan20 wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:It would be stupid to fire MDA. As stated before, he has done a very good job with all the change that has been done every year that he has been here with in-season trades.

If there are a select few coaches who suddenly become available that clearly want to be here, I would hire them. These select few do not include Mark Jackson and Patrick Ewing. I am talking about Doc Rivers, Jerry Sloan and Greg Popovic.

Hiring Mike Brown as a defensive assistant would be a great idea.

That's my ideal. I don't think there's anyone available who's clearly better the MDA so the best option is probably to hire Mike Brown as a defensive coach. And we could call them Mike Browntoni.

Besides you attract two star players to be coached by him and then replace him with "Skiles" and watch the uglyness fester over time.

MDA don't preach the defense and when he has the guns is stubborn and arogant in thinking "You adapt to me and try to stop it"..........We don't have the guns and MDA does deserve an extension. He took the team to the playoffs. Mission accomplished.

My guess is nothing gets done this year in any event.

LOL i dont understand all of this "he desereves a legitimate roster." that is quite dubious given that it was D'Antoni who refused to play anthony randolph. randolph averaged 11 points 5 boards a block and a steal in the month of march -- basically what he averaged last year in GS, yet he couldn't get off the pine in NYK. why?

randolph turned into corey brewer, who also couldn't play in this system. according to his agent, 12 teams called, and he wound up with the mavs, the 3rd team in the west. if the 3rd team in the west could use him, why can't the 7th team in the east use him? perplexing.

he also spent the first two years in NYK playing has-beens on expiring contracts instead of developing younger guys (it took gallo half a season to get off the bench, TD an entire season, jordan hill never played, darko never played). we have an awful depth problem and an awful size problem and yet darko is putting up 9/5 and 2 blocks for the twolves and not us. why? because he couldn't "fit" in the system IE he couldn't hit a corner 3.

so the knicks could have two more adequate guys with size in the rotation had MDA actually developed players and not just stuck with who could hit the 3 ball. (jon bender over darko, eddie house over toney D, al harrington over gallo, billy walker over randolph, etc etc)

nalod -- let's get two things straight - (1) amare came to NY because they were willing to pay him $100 million and nobody else was. this has been well documented. in fact, he had to have a sit down with MDA to make sure they were on the same page. amare didn't sign here to play for the mustache. (2) melo wanted to play in NY because he wanted to be in NY. MDA had nothing to do with it. i don't think melo cares about who's coaching him, he's the best scorer in the league, he doesn't need MDA's corner 3 ball offense to put up 30.

regarding the defensive coach, yea, great idea. wasn't d'antoni's refusal to bring on thibodeau in phoenix the reason why he got canned? LOL good luck with that.

FACT. fire this bum and sign a real head coach who understand what it takes to win.

nyk4ever wrote:

BigSm00th wrote:trick question: ask me in the offseason when we know what other coaches are available. if doc or phil jackson are available, i would can d'antoni in a minute and offer them a boatload. they are legitimate coaches, MDA is a fun gimmick coach to have but will not have playoff success (we'll see how it plays out, right?).

LOL i dont understand all of this "he desereves a legitimate roster." that is quite dubious given that it was D'Antoni who refused to play anthony randolph. randolph averaged 11 points 5 boards a block and a steal in the month of march -- basically what he averaged last year in GS, yet he couldn't get off the pine in NYK. why?

randolph turned into corey brewer, who also couldn't play in this system. according to his agent, 12 teams called, and he wound up with the mavs, the 3rd team in the west. if the 3rd team in the west could use him, why can't the 7th team in the east use him? perplexing.

he also spent the first two years in NYK playing has-beens on expiring contracts instead of developing younger guys (it took gallo half a season to get off the bench, TD an entire season, jordan hill never played, darko never played). we have an awful depth problem and an awful size problem and yet darko is putting up 9/5 and 2 blocks for the twolves and not us. why? because he couldn't "fit" in the system IE he couldn't hit a corner 3.

so the knicks could have two more adequate guys with size in the rotation had MDA actually developed players and not just stuck with who could hit the 3 ball. (jon bender over darko, eddie house over toney D, al harrington over gallo, billy walker over randolph, etc etc)

nalod -- let's get two things straight - (1) amare came to NY because they were willing to pay him $100 million and nobody else was. this has been well documented. in fact, he had to have a sit down with MDA to make sure they were on the same page. amare didn't sign here to play for the mustache. (2) melo wanted to play in NY because he wanted to be in NY. MDA had nothing to do with it. i don't think melo cares about who's coaching him, he's the best scorer in the league, he doesn't need MDA's corner 3 ball offense to put up 30.

regarding the defensive coach, yea, great idea. wasn't d'antoni's refusal to bring on thibodeau in phoenix the reason why he got canned? LOL good luck with that.

FACT. fire this bum and sign a real head coach who understand what it takes to win.

the corey brewer had nothing to do with d'antoni not playing, he was instructed by walsh to not play him because he was going to be bought out either way as a favor to brewer's agent happy walters who the knicks have alot of dealings with. nothing to do with d'antoni.

second of all - randolph was garbage everytime he played, yeah it's nice he's playing for the t'wolves but they arne't in the middle of a playoff hunt and the knicks are. randolph was a detriment to the team when he was in the game because he was only interested in playing PG instead of rebounding, blocking shots and doing the things he's good at.

RE: brewer -- according to the bill simmons/frank isola pod cast last week, it was ANTONI who said to walsh "i'm not gonna play this guy, you might as well release him." walsh released him as a solid to walters since walters is STAT's agent. it had everything to do with ANTONI and zero to do with walsh. listen to the pod cast. isola covers the team. i believe him.

RE: randolph -- "garbage every time" - yea, i agree. do you know why? because he was playing scared because d'antoni would yank him for one mistake. the guy never looked relaxed. rather than instilling confidence (the guy clearly has confidence issues, don nelson brought him to tears one time) and saying "we believe in you, you're a super talented player, we'll figure out a way to get you involved in our offense even though you can't shoot" antoni basically said "if you screw up once i'm pulling you." it's like a baseball manager sitting on the top step and having a reliever warming up in the pen when a starter with confidence issues is pitching. not the best way to handle talent that has issues.

and "every time" LOL yea since he really played a boatload. he saw action in 17 games, 7 of which were garbage time by my count. randolph was IN the rotation at the beginning of the year and yanked because he looked uncomfortable and MDA went to a SEVEN MAN rotation for a winning streak and stuck with it on the logic of "if it aint broke dont fix it" even though the season is 82 games and the winning streak was in november. comical.

fire antoni.

BigSm00th wrote:RE: randolph -- "garbage every time" - yea, i agree. do you know why? because he was playing scared because d'antoni would yank him for one mistake. the guy never looked relaxed. rather than instilling confidence (the guy clearly has confidence issues, don nelson brought him to tears one time) and saying "we believe in you, you're a super talented player, we'll figure out a way to get you involved in our offense even though you can't shoot" antoni basically said "if you screw up once i'm pulling you." it's like a baseball manager sitting on the top step and having a reliever warming up in the pen when a starter with confidence issues is pitching. not the best way to handle talent that has issues.

This wasnt a rebuilding year. The goal was to make the playoffs. Not let young players make mistakes. Chandler, Gallo, Mos, Fields, Williams... all those guys did OK, but you focus on AR. He was terrible everytime he hit the floor. WE needed to win games. Not sure why this is so hard to grasp

BigSm00th wrote:what about darko last year? darko didn't play but jon bender did and al harrington did. now both of those guys are gone, darko signed with minnesota and has given them valuable minutes at C, and we have to play small forwards at center.

thats not on antoni either right?

darko has personally said he takes full responsibility for last year because he showed up to the knicks (after d'antoni allowed him to show up late to be with his wife in europe for the birth of his child) completely out of shape and didn't give his best effort.