What he has accomplished is downright incredible.

JesseDark wrote:I don't think he would last 5 weeks in NY with the NY media. He has something special at Butler, I wouldn't give that up for this mess.

You want to replace D'Antoni with an unproven College Coach? So what happens if he bombs early and the fans and media come down on him? Why should NBA vets respect him when he hasn't accomplished anything in the pro game? I can't see NY going with any unproven coaches right now. Not with so much on the line. You don't wait years to put a team together with 2 in their prime stars and just hand that over to a rookie coach.

Juice wrote:

nixluva wrote:D'Antoni isn't any more thin skinned than many coaches in the league. No coach with an ego wants to have people constantly critique them.

You want to replace D'Antoni with an unproven College Coach? So what happens if he bombs early and the fans and media come down on him? Why should NBA vets respect him when he hasn't accomplished anything in the pro game? I can't see NY going with any unproven coaches right now. Not with so much on the line. You don't wait years to put a team together with 2 in their prime stars and just hand that over to a rookie coach.

Explain what you mean by "hasn't accomplished anything in the pro game" and who this would rule out

This isn't a young team that is looking toward the future and longterm development. This is a right now team that is in need of someone that has been there before and has dealt with Star NBA talent, NY press and media etc.

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:D'Antoni isn't any more thin skinned than many coaches in the league. No coach with an ego wants to have people constantly critique them.

You want to replace D'Antoni with an unproven College Coach? So what happens if he bombs early and the fans and media come down on him? Why should NBA vets respect him when he hasn't accomplished anything in the pro game? I can't see NY going with any unproven coaches right now. Not with so much on the line. You don't wait years to put a team together with 2 in their prime stars and just hand that over to a rookie coach.

D'Antoni at least appeared to be pretty thin skinned when he left Phoenix or maybe he just misread how perfect the situation was there for him to be successful. However, prior to his taking the Knicks job what was reported nationally was that he didn't like being questioned by the media or management about his methods and he didn't like suggestions from management that he should change. He didn't stick around either so I think that is where his rep as a thin skinned guy is from. He has been given a free pass for much of his time in NY and he has a GM that has his back and protects him.

1st of all no one can protect a coach in NY from the media here. Your GM is supposed to back you, especially since he's the one that brought Mike here and Donnie is the one making all the changes to the team. No one using reason can't see what's been happening since the trade and not conclude that it's just one of those gambles that didn't work right away. There's still the future and one thing we know is that Amar'e wants to play in Mike's system. It's the only system he's really been in and he's been an All Star in that system. Why would he want that to change and why would Donnie what that to change?

My view is that Donnie again going to look to bring in players that can excel in this system. Mike will continue to tweak the system to take advantage of Melo's skills, but at the same time they'll expect Melo to adjust to the system a bit as well, which I think he can do. Donnie is gonna get the help we need at C and upgrade everywhere else we need it.

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:D'Antoni isn't any more thin skinned than many coaches in the league. No coach with an ego wants to have people constantly critique them.

You want to replace D'Antoni with an unproven College Coach? So what happens if he bombs early and the fans and media come down on him? Why should NBA vets respect him when he hasn't accomplished anything in the pro game? I can't see NY going with any unproven coaches right now. Not with so much on the line. You don't wait years to put a team together with 2 in their prime stars and just hand that over to a rookie coach.

D'Antoni at least appeared to be pretty thin skinned when he left Phoenix or maybe he just misread how perfect the situation was there for him to be successful. However, prior to his taking the Knicks job what was reported nationally was that he didn't like being questioned by the media or management about his methods and he didn't like suggestions from management that he should change. He didn't stick around either so I think that is where his rep as a thin skinned guy is from. He has been given a free pass for much of his time in NY and he has a GM that has his back and protects him.

1st of all no one can protect a coach in NY from the media here. Your GM is supposed to back you, especially since he's the one that brought Mike here and Donnie is the one making all the changes to the team. No one using reason can't see what's been happening since the trade and not conclude that it's just one of those gambles that didn't work right away. There's still the future and one thing we know is that Amar'e wants to play in Mike's system. It's the only system he's really been in and he's been an All Star in that system. Why would he want that to change and why would Donnie what that to change?

My view is that Donnie again going to look to bring in players that can excel in this system. Mike will continue to tweak the system to take advantage of Melo's skills, but at the same time they'll expect Melo to adjust to the system a bit as well, which I think he can do. Donnie is gonna get the help we need at C and upgrade everywhere else we need it.

nixluva wrote:

nykshaknbake wrote:Yeah because Stat isn't going to play under anyone other than mda. In fact that was why he came here 100%. If mda leaves stat will just be lost and probably be a Jared Jeffries right? A GM isn't supposed to back a coach unconditionally uness you're GM/coach. WHy would Donnie want to change? Are kidding me? Why wouldn't he want to change? You MUST be related to mda in some way.

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:D'Antoni isn't any more thin skinned than many coaches in the league. No coach with an ego wants to have people constantly critique them.

You want to replace D'Antoni with an unproven College Coach? So what happens if he bombs early and the fans and media come down on him? Why should NBA vets respect him when he hasn't accomplished anything in the pro game? I can't see NY going with any unproven coaches right now. Not with so much on the line. You don't wait years to put a team together with 2 in their prime stars and just hand that over to a rookie coach.

D'Antoni at least appeared to be pretty thin skinned when he left Phoenix or maybe he just misread how perfect the situation was there for him to be successful. However, prior to his taking the Knicks job what was reported nationally was that he didn't like being questioned by the media or management about his methods and he didn't like suggestions from management that he should change. He didn't stick around either so I think that is where his rep as a thin skinned guy is from. He has been given a free pass for much of his time in NY and he has a GM that has his back and protects him.

1st of all no one can protect a coach in NY from the media here. Your GM is supposed to back you, especially since he's the one that brought Mike here and Donnie is the one making all the changes to the team. No one using reason can't see what's been happening since the trade and not conclude that it's just one of those gambles that didn't work right away. There's still the future and one thing we know is that Amar'e wants to play in Mike's system. It's the only system he's really been in and he's been an All Star in that system. Why would he want that to change and why would Donnie what that to change?

My view is that Donnie again going to look to bring in players that can excel in this system. Mike will continue to tweak the system to take advantage of Melo's skills, but at the same time they'll expect Melo to adjust to the system a bit as well, which I think he can do. Donnie is gonna get the help we need at C and upgrade everywhere else we need it.

If you change the coach, it's unknown what kind of offensive system or style he'll have. I think Donnie likes the combination of Mike and STAT. It appears to me that Donnie had in mind the idea of having STAT, Melo and hopefully CP3 or Deron at the point under Mike. I'm sure that Donnie also wants to find a C to anchor the team. He didn't want to send Timo away, but once Dolan got involved that plan went out the window and made Donnie's job harder.

Like I said worst trade in NBA history.

Nalod wrote:
Brad Stevens is a great story. What unique qualities does he have to coach the NBA Professional basketball player?

The question is can another coach fix this problem as it exists today?

If the roster changes again this summer, does the problem still exist?

Google Brad Stevens and you'll find several articles talking about his coaching philosophy. You'll find that Stevens is one of the most intelligent, well organized and prepared coaches you've ever read about. First its his demeanor. He believers demeanor reflects on his players, and his calm, understated approach reflects a very poised, cohesive and focused team. They execute, don't get into stretches where things keep falling apart and play together. I also think he's one of these unique guys that goes outside the box- I'm a bit of a stat geek myself so I'm biased, but he takes a tremendous amount of time to analyze the statistical trends of his opponents to prepare his team against those opponents tendencies. Read quotes from his players and you'll see that they all feel like the know their opponents in and out before playing him.

But don't just take those qualities at face value- look at the results. He has taken a team that doesn't attract start recruits, from a mid-major conference to the final four 2 consecutive years. He lost the most talented player on his team- an NBA first round draft pick, and was still able to repeat. And this man is just 34 years old. His potential is absolutely through the roof. I truly believe this will be the first and last opportunity that the Knicks will have to hire this coach. He will undoubtedly get offers from top programs this offseason and I'm sure he will get calls from the NBA. He's not gonna take an NBA assistant coaching job because he will get offers to be the head man. This is a calculated gamble- if you think this is a unique talent in the coaching world, and I'm willing to go out on the line and say that I believe that to be case, than you have to hire him now. You can't let the next Wooden, Riley, Jackson etc. out of your grasp.

And let me say this- I'm a fan of Mike D'Antoni. I still think he's one of the best options for the job. But I'm willing to let him go now because we have given him a shot, and what I believe to be the next great coaching talent is potentially available. I don't think this is Cinderella waiting for midnight- this is a prepared coaching natural who will be the next great coach out there. We are already seeing the results and they are phenomenal.