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2 Potential Coaches - Lawrence Frank & Pat Ewing
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Killa4luv
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3/23/2011  10:04 AM
Lawrence Frank did a good job in NJ, they played good D, they went to the finals twice. Their team was not all that good either,
but they made it happen. He's a guy I respect and could be pried away from Boston to run his own show.

Pat Ewing has been on the bench for a while as an assistant. He has earned some respect as a mentor of Yao Ming and Dwight Howard, and for his overall coaching acumen. He was a great player, who if nothing else, played hard every single game on both ends of the court. I can't imagine any of our players not respecting him. I can't imagine that he hasn't learned a tremendous amount from the many coaches he played for, from Rick Pitino, to Pat Riley, Hubert Davis, and coaching alongside JVG and SVG. It would be a homecoming. NY did him wrong at the end of his career and if Pat can prove in an interview that he's ready for the job, we should bring him on board.

Also, we drafted a big Jamaican kid Jerome Jordan who could use some homegrown mentoring, yard style. I don't really know who else is out there. I'm not anti MDA, I just never really liked him as a coach long term, and I think the time has come to make a change. We don't have a team that fits his style, so somethings got to change.

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fishmike
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3/23/2011  10:07 AM
if we are building around two scoring forward wouldnt we want a coach who's offensive minded?

If MDA flops Frank seems viable... kind of 6 of 1, 1/2 a dozen

NO to Ewing. Not sure I would subject him to the level of disfunction here. He deserves better

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NYKBocker
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3/23/2011  10:07 AM
You know what? Call me a homer I don't care but I would love for Patrick to get a shot here. He paid his dues and if he is smart, the only thing he needs to do is surround himself with really good coaches. Ask JVG to come aboard. JVG is so loyal that I think he will back up Patrick.
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3/23/2011  10:08 AM
fishmike wrote:if we are building around two scoring forward wouldnt we want a coach who's offensive minded?

If MDA flops Frank seems viable... kind of 6 of 1, 1/2 a dozen

NO to Ewing. Not sure I would subject him to the level of disfunction here. He deserves better

That is the only reason why I would not want Pat here.

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3/23/2011  10:09 AM
No to both.

Lawrence Frank had a talented roster that included Jason Kidd.

Patrick Ewing is not the answer. No need to burden him with the expectations of New York as a first time head coach. Can you say Willis Reed?

Bring back the most productive coach the Knicks have had in the past decade. You could look it up and fish.mike has already cited the evidence.

Don Chaney.

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fishmike
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3/23/2011  10:10 AM
NYKBocker wrote:
fishmike wrote:if we are building around two scoring forward wouldnt we want a coach who's offensive minded?

If MDA flops Frank seems viable... kind of 6 of 1, 1/2 a dozen

NO to Ewing. Not sure I would subject him to the level of disfunction here. He deserves better

That is the only reason why I would not want Pat here.

yea.. and carrying a team to at least round 2 for ten straight years probably doesnt mean much in terms of respect to today's players
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3/23/2011  10:14 AM
I don't think Don Chaney would be in a huge rush to return considering how badly he was treated on his exit.
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3/23/2011  10:38 AM

As long as there is hope for a player not on our roster, or a coach not under a KNick contract we knick fans will carry on as usual.

Don't fix the problem, just replace it.

Don't grow players just trade for them.

This is a recipe that is not working.

I actually think we have the right coach for this team.

Just give it time.

Its ok to bitch but not panic.

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3/23/2011  10:42 AM
We need defensive minded players before we get a defensive-minded coach. All we really need is a good defensive center that MDA will actually play for more than 10 minutes a game.
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3/23/2011  11:04 AM
TheGame wrote:We need defensive minded players before we get a defensive-minded coach. All we really need is a good defensive center that MDA will actually play for more than 10 minutes a game.

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Mike D is on the clock! He has no choice but to play defense and a big center. If he dosen't he is history. Let him take his 3 ball some place else.

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3/23/2011  11:07 AM
love the lawrence frank idea. in my opinion, a defensive coach is the only type of coach that makes sense.

we have two of the best offensive players in the game, both skilled at getting buckets. we don't need a great offensive system. defense and rebounding win championships. you can coach defense. you need players to rebound. a defensive coach is the first step, then getting bigger and more depth is the next.

get the gentleman theif out of here!

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3/23/2011  11:08 AM
Doc Rivers, Phil Jackson, Rudy T., Skiles (in that order). I love Ewing as much as the next die hard fan, but he has no HC experience and does not handle the NY media circus very well. JVG is way too smart toget involved with a douche bag like Jimmy D. again, and I don't blame him. Isaiah Thomas? He should be put down like a crippled horse.
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3/23/2011  11:11 AM
Lawrence Frank is not a defensive coach.

He is an over rated assistant coach who is not coaching anywhere for a reason.

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3/23/2011  11:13 AM
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I say Patrick Ewing. He would not be afraid to get in Melo's face or Amare's face and demand them to play team ball.

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martin
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3/23/2011  11:20 AM
Patrick Ewing. Wow.

Has he been a top assistant anywhere?

He has shown he can be a big man coach but that's it, right?

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misterearl
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3/23/2011  11:23 AM
Opportunity Knocks

Frank earned his B.S. in education from Indiana University in 1992, where he spent four seasons as a manager for the Hoosier basketball team led by Bob Knight.

Frank worked as a staff assistant to Kevin O'Neill at Marquette in 1992. While he was there Marquette earned two NCAA Tournament berths and a Sweet 16 appearance in 1994.

Frank followed O'Neill to the University of Tennessee as an assistant coach.

Frank spent three seasons as an assistant coach for the Vancouver Grizzlies under Brian Hill.

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grillco
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3/23/2011  12:04 PM
martin wrote:Patrick Ewing. Wow.

Has he been a top assistant anywhere?

He has shown he can be a big man coach but that's it, right?

How do you get to be head coach unless someone offers the gig? He's got a TON more actual coaching experience than Marc Jackson and people seem to think he'd be a good coach. The guy knows how to play defense and score, those are the skill he can teach the players as needed and int he case of Amare and Melo, defensive instruction is a big need. Imagine Pat losing a few and going into the post with Amare during practice...it brings chills, chills I say...chills...

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3/23/2011  12:05 PM
misterearl wrote:Opportunity Knocks

Frank earned his B.S. in education from Indiana University in 1992, where he spent four seasons as a manager for the Hoosier basketball team led by Bob Knight.

Frank worked as a staff assistant to Kevin O'Neill at Marquette in 1992. While he was there Marquette earned two NCAA Tournament berths and a Sweet 16 appearance in 1994.

Frank followed O'Neill to the University of Tennessee as an assistant coach.

Frank spent three seasons as an assistant coach for the Vancouver Grizzlies under Brian Hill.

I hear you, but I while I won't knock his pedigree, Frank is not the answer. Rivers would be a HUGE get...would he have any interest?

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3/23/2011  12:08 PM
Give me Jason Kidd and Richard Jefferson in their prime and I will gladly coach them "up".

Superior talent makes superior coaches

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grillco
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3/23/2011  12:10 PM
martin wrote:Patrick Ewing. Wow.

Has he been a top assistant anywhere?

He has shown he can be a big man coach but that's it, right?

Also, what top assistant position did Doc have before he took over in Orlando? And it's not like he won a rings there, but still the Celtics grabbed him. I don't buy into the notion that you have to have been a PG to have any real chance at coaching. Yes they are floor generals, but their roles are laid out for them like everyone else, by the coaching staff, especially as more of the staffs have PG as heads.

Anyway, I'd love for some smaller market team to have given Ewing a chance already so he'd seem more "ready" for prime time in NY, but I'd still love to see what he could do.

2 Potential Coaches - Lawrence Frank & Pat Ewing

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