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fishmike
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3/22/2011  9:02 AM
’Melo wilting under burden of lifting Knicks

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-wojnarowski_carmelo_anthony_wilts_under_burden_of_carrying_knicks_032111

NEW YORK – Carmelo Anthony(notes) dropped to the Madison Square Garden floor, blood spilling out of the corner of his eye and the life leaking out a lost cause. Down goes ’Melo, a TKO that left him discombobulated and diminished. He had come to New York chasing glory and endorsements, the bright lights of the big city. A fast smile, a sweet stroke, the Knicks treated his arrival like some kind of second coming.

The New York Knicks oversold Anthony, and it’s little surprise that he’s underdelivered. This was the kind of night Anthony hasn’t been wired to withstand, the ferocity of the Boston Celtics trampling the Knicks with a furious fourth-quarter bludgeoning. Suddenly, the Knicks found themselves crumbling under a champion’s resolve, the Celtics responding to a word that Doc Rivers had never needed to use until his halftime diatribe: soft.

The Celtics could never live with such a label, and that’s so much of the reason they came so hard for the Knicks in the final minutes of an 96-86 victory. It was so much of the reason that Anthony would go without a basket in the fourth quarter, that his eye needed five stitches after connecting with the sharp end of a Rajon Rondo(notes) elbow.

“We got on the floor and got grimy and made it a dirty game,” Garnett marveled.

Amar’e Stoudemire(notes) dropped down with Garnett, symbolic of the way Stoudemire has grown into a $100 million man. Anthony hadn’t been here a month, and Stoudemire has had to publicly remind him that this isn’t about the Knicks adapting to Anthony but Anthony adapting to the Knicks. Stoudemire could live with ’Melo missing 10 of 12 shots in a loss to the Detroit Pistons, but hiding on the team bus and leaving Stoudemire to answer the questions in his absence?

That’s unacceptable, and spoke to a career of enabling and bad habits that come with Anthony’s prodigious talent to score. ’Melo’s no Starbury, but he had a choice to make: Come to New York, grow as a player, a leader; or be forever remembered as something of a wasted talent. When Anthony snapped on Toney Douglas(notes) for failing to get him the ball at the end of that Pistons loss, it was a dead issue with him once they hit the locker room. He isn’t mean-spirited, isn’t a man to carry grudges.

Marbury would’ve gone three games without passing the ball to Douglas. There’s a lot of differences between them, but the sulking, the excuses, need to stop. As Anthony started to search for an escape hatch on a wayward start in New York, he suggested that it could take a full year together to jell – never mind that the upheaval of the blockbuster trade has already regenerated the Denver franchise.

“I don’t want to hear that,” Knicks president Donnie Walsh said Monday night.

The Knicks are 7-9 with Anthony and still struggling to find success with ’Melo and Stoudemire on the court together. Anthony has never had to sacrifice in his career, but he does now. He ought to take a good, long look at Stoudemire, and see the way he’s reinvented himself with the Knicks. Stoudemire’s transformed everything because it was important to him. He hated the labels as a non-leader, an uninspired defender and rebounder.

For now, the Knicks need Anthony to accept the notion that his sloppy, scattered and selfish basketball is intolerable. As one Eastern Conference assistant coach said: “He has a career worth of bad habits. They weren’t going to change in a month.”

Sometimes the New York public demands so much more than the Knicks organization. The Knicks don’t make demands of stars within the organization but concessions to them. That’s owner Jim Dolan’s star-crossed way, and that’s a big part of the way that Isiah Thomas still plays him.

This is an enabling culture of sycophants and bootlickers within the Knicks’ infrastructure, a stable of pitiful yes men empowered under Dolan to somehow make the toxicity worse. The greatest regret of the Walsh era won’t be the players that the owner forced him to give up for Anthony. It won’t be the impatience that maybe cost the Knicks a deal for Deron Williams(notes). Just maybe, it’ll be the inability to let Walsh sweep the poisoned air out of the Garden and let this proud, old franchise breathe again.

For whom the task for overseeing Anthony’s transformation will fall is still uncertain in New York. Walsh still hasn’t had a substantive conversation about his future with Dolan, Garden sources say. Indiana Pacers owner Herb Simon won’t run president Larry Bird out of Indiana; he’ll let him make a decision on his future. Nevertheless, Simon still adores Walsh, and the prospect of Walsh returning to his wife and family in Indianapolis does carry appeal. And that’s especially true given the autonomy for the Knicks job that’s eroded over the past 18 months with the re-emergence of Thomas.

The Knicks have until April 30 to exercise the option on Walsh’s final contract year, but this has already gone a long way without resolution. Bird would probably have to exit the Pacers for Walsh to return, but in that scenario several league sources believe Walsh would enlist Chris Mullin to join him as the Pacers GM.

For now, Walsh left the Garden admiring the work of these Celtics, admiring the toughness and tenacity that could await the Knicks in a 2-vs.-7 series to open the Eastern Conference playoffs. The Celtics delivered a clinic on stars working together and buying into a program, a belief. So far, ’Melo has bought into only his own hype.

“When you want to win, everybody has to be a willing participant,” Rivers said. “Everyone has to sacrifice. You look at our guys, all their shots were cut in half from the year before. And that’s just the way it is.”

Carmelo Anthony had come to New York plastered on the side of billboards and buildings, but here were the Boston Celtics – here was a burden so far unfulfilled – leaving him hunched over and bleeding in the middle of Madison Square Garden. Carmelo Anthony will never be a savior for the Knicks, but it will be on him to become something far more admirable here: a survivor.

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3/22/2011  9:12 AM
awesome article.

MDA is not the coach for this team. we have two of the top scorers in the game. we don't need his gimmick offense. we need a new coach who will garner the players respect, make them play defense, make them play as a team.

this team's gonna get stomped in the first round. adios

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3/22/2011  9:12 AM
BigSm00th wrote:awesome article.

MDA is not the coach for this team. we have two of the top scorers in the game. we don't need his gimmick offense. we need a new coach who will garner the players respect, make them play defense, make them play as a team.

this team's gonna get stomped in the first round. adios

who is the coach you want?

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3/22/2011  9:17 AM
BigSm00th wrote:awesome article.

MDA is not the coach for this team. we have two of the top scorers in the game. we don't need his gimmick offense. we need a new coach who will garner the players respect, make them play defense, make them play as a team.

this team's gonna get stomped in the first round. adios

Did you read the article? It didn't mention D'Antoni once. It was all about how Wojo thinks Melo's been given everything he wants on a silver platter and that he's too much of a whiner to lead this team.

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3/22/2011  9:18 AM
BigSm00th wrote:awesome article.

MDA is not the coach for this team. we have two of the top scorers in the game. we don't need his gimmick offense. we need a new coach who will garner the players respect, make them play defense, make them play as a team.

this team's gonna get stomped in the first round. adios

how is ball movement and spacing a gimmick?

I bet if we got Deanre Jordon, Reggie Evans, Raja Bell and Toney Allen we would be a good defensive team

ISO basketball is the WORST to watch.

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3/22/2011  9:20 AM
I'm glad Wojo pointed out the ways that Melo is different than Marbury. He is right about Anthony having to adapt his game like Amare did if the Knicks are to succeed. Maybe he thought he wouldn't have to because of the system. Melo is learning the hard way that just isn't the case.

I'm still glad they traded for him but the work isn't done yet. That's why I'm not hitting the panic button. There might be a new coach and GM/President next season, more new players, many things to sort out before we will know how this will play out.

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3/22/2011  9:27 AM
You can really see that Melo can be an SSOL player. He is just too hardwired of what Wojo described as a decade of bad habits. I am still holding out that a full training camp with MDA and this group will do wonders. The one problem right now with Melo that I think he can correct right now is his sticky fingers. When the ball is passed to him, he has 1 second to decide if he can make his move if not then swing it to move the ball. This is what Gallo was so good at when he was here. The ball kept moving.
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3/22/2011  9:32 AM
NYKBocker wrote:You can really see that Melo can be an SSOL player. He is just too hardwired of what Wojo described as a decade of bad habits. I am still holding out that a full training camp with MDA and this group will do wonders. The one problem right now with Melo that I think he can correct right now is his sticky fingers. When the ball is passed to him, he has 1 second to decide if he can make his move if not then swing it to move the ball. This is what Gallo was so good at when he was here. The ball kept moving.
Melo is a good passer. I've liked the passing I have seen from him. He just doesnt do it enough. Melo strikes me as sheer monster waiting to be unearthed in the SSOL.

Does anyone want to see more 90 point games and ISO after ISO? It sucks and its easy to defend. Unless your ISO player is Shaq, MJ, Duncan, Hakeem or Kobe your not winning anyway...

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3/22/2011  9:37 AM
fishmike wrote:
BigSm00th wrote:awesome article.

MDA is not the coach for this team. we have two of the top scorers in the game. we don't need his gimmick offense. we need a new coach who will garner the players respect, make them play defense, make them play as a team.

this team's gonna get stomped in the first round. adios

how is ball movement and spacing a gimmick?

I bet if we got Deanre Jordon, Reggie Evans, Raja Bell and Toney Allen we would be a good defensive team

ISO basketball is the WORST to watch.

i agree, which is why its so hard to watch melo.

shooting corner 3s, developing nothing inside, not stressing D -- those are all gimmicky. i know MDA purports to "stress" these things but when you have articles like "the knicks spent 40 minutes going over D today" and then players saying it was nice to spend some time on D (i believe this was a few games into the MELO tenure) its hard to believe.

if MDA's forte is his offensive system, i don't think he is AS good of a fit as he was before the knicks had STAT & MELO. same concept with before the trade -- knicks are #2 in the nba in PPG and yet we need to get another scorer?

given that the knicks have 2 of the best offensive players in the game, a coach that has won before and is more defensive oriented would be a nice change. then again, who am i kidding, dolan runs this team, i wouldn't be surprised if john calipari's hired in august.

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3/22/2011  9:37 AM
fishmike wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:You can really see that Melo can be an SSOL player. He is just too hardwired of what Wojo described as a decade of bad habits. I am still holding out that a full training camp with MDA and this group will do wonders. The one problem right now with Melo that I think he can correct right now is his sticky fingers. When the ball is passed to him, he has 1 second to decide if he can make his move if not then swing it to move the ball. This is what Gallo was so good at when he was here. The ball kept moving.
Melo is a good passer. I've liked the passing I have seen from him. He just doesnt do it enough. Melo strikes me as sheer monster waiting to be unearthed in the SSOL.

Does anyone want to see more 90 point games and ISO after ISO? It sucks and its easy to defend. Unless your ISO player is Shaq, MJ, Duncan, Hakeem or Kobe your not winning anyway...

I agree that Melo is a really good passer but he only does it once in awhile. Last night against the Celtics, he missed Mr. Glass on more than 1 occasion in a PnR. On more than one occasion, he held onto the ball in the elbow 3 when the right play was to let it flow to the corner to get the defense to chase and open up players for a skip pass or back to Melo for an open 3 or lane. Things Gallo and Chandler mastered when they were here.

The way I look at it. If ZBo, a notorious ball stopper, can prosper in the SSOL then a player of Melo's caliber should be unstoppable with a full training camp to work with it.

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3/22/2011  9:39 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/22/2011  9:42 AM
That is a great read. WoJo is the best NBA writer working today. Also, it's strangely hopeful. Melo is not Marbury, thank god, and that, joined by Amare's leadership, Billups' hopeful return to stability and Walsh's extended tenure (seriously, the question of Walsh's extension is far more disconcerting to me than the Knick's on-court mediocrity) means there is hope.

I like Melo and think he can thrive here, but it's on him to make it happen.

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3/22/2011  9:46 AM
GustavBahler wrote:I'm glad Wojo pointed out the ways that Melo is different than Marbury.

He's certainly doing a good job of making the differences look small and the similarities look big.
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3/22/2011  9:52 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:I'm glad Wojo pointed out the ways that Melo is different than Marbury.

He's certainly doing a good job of making the differences look small and the similarities look big.

The thing that I don't like about Melo is that I don't think he ever thinks it is his fault. He is quick to blame and never wants to accept fault.

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3/22/2011  10:06 AM
Good read. Its not saying it won't ever work but what Melo needs to do to make it work.

And Melo had not had time to adjust.

I like the "enabling culture" reference and perhaps that is what is wrong with our team.

Im ok with giving melo the time to not be Vince Carter. A world of talent but in his prime could not integrate into a team.

Melo got what he wanted, now he has to prove those championship desire is really there.

He is not "MeloBury", but a more T-Mac/Carter like.

He can change.

Yeah, Knicks "Oversold" this. Overpromise and under deliver. THere is a word for this.

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3/22/2011  10:11 AM
Put the torches and pitch forks down. Melo will be fine and so will the Knicks, you guys lack the patients that is need to be great.
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3/22/2011  10:12 AM
Vmart wrote:Put the torches and pitch forks down. Melo will be fine and so will the Knicks, you guys lack the patients that is need to be great.

well im not a doctor so...

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3/22/2011  10:19 AM
Let's just hope Melo can handle the pressure he's put himself and handles this with some maturity. if not, i see one big train wreck coming our way.
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3/22/2011  11:29 AM
Carmelo is not a smart player. He has pride on one side of the court. He looks off teammates and shots the ball.

What coach are you going to bring in? Pop, Doc, Jackson?

If someone is scoring on you and you don't take it personal you're a loser. And if you are a Knicks fan and haven't started to be reminded of Marbury and those Knick teams being selfish not giving there all on defense and sacrificing you're not watching.

We had character guys that were learning how to play together the right way. I would have rather spent 8MM on chandler 8MM on Deandre Jordan and hang onto Gallo, AR, Moz and build a team that could compete for a championship.

Carmelo is not a superstar, period. He lost to the Pacers/Cavs twice and too a D League team in Detriot. If you're that good you carry a team to the win. You don't ask the coach to simplify the defense because you're too stupid to understand it. You don't make excuses. You asked for you're money, you got it. You asked to be here, you're here. Get you're overweight ass in the gym lose some weight so you can defend quicker players and win some games.

You're old team doesn't miss you. NCAA Championship, Gold Medal with superstars means nothing. If you don't take it personal that your coach and teammates are saying you're better off without you. It's time to change you're number to #3

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3/22/2011  11:37 AM
MS wrote:Carmelo is not a smart player. He has pride on one side of the court. He looks off teammates and shots the ball.

I tell you what, MJ used to do the same. It took him forever and Phil Jax to convince him otherwise.

MDA stresses team ball. If he is around, I would give him until about mid-season to see if he can implement something that you can move forward with. Perhaps he has lost his Juice Card with the team but I get the sense that Amare has bought in. MDA does need a PG who some sense and sensibility with the PnR.

Skiles would be a good candidate for this team if MDA does not work out - all about sharing the ball on O and constant energy on D.

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3/22/2011  11:41 AM
Kobe, too. He's held up as the gold-standard for all-around superstar, but it wasn't that long ago that he was getting ripped by Jackson for ball-hogging and insinuating that he wanted out of L.A. It took the total fleecing of Memphis for Gasol to really right the Kobe ship, yes?
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