Childs2Dudley wrote:What is wrong with you?

This team is good. They are gelling like felons. They are on their way to bigger and better things. Measly fluke losses to cheaters like the Celtics are not to be taken seriously. We are already looking ahead and the havoc we will cause in the playoffs.

agreed. good thing we won't play the cavs in the first round!

BigSm00th wrote:if that's the case, why are the Knuggets about to go to 10-3 since trading this super duper star?

does melo need to "learn" how to play team basketball? or is he incapable of subjugating himself for the good of the whole?

so basically you're placing the entire blame of the team's struggles on Melo... last time i checked this is a team game why isn't STAT stepping up to be the leader & getting Melo & Billups to buy into the "team concept"? why is Billups playing like crap since he got back from the injury is Melo getting into his head & telling him to commit those costly turnovers down the stretch of games? what is Toney Douglas doing out there dribbling into double coverage in the final possession & getting the ball stolen away? Melo's been the main cog on 3 straight 50+ win teams i find it hard to believe he doesn't know how to play team basketball.

BigSm00th wrote:what about my question:

knicks are 7-9 and the knuggets are 10-3 since the deal. what explains that?

melo made stupid plays down the stretch as well. on a whole, ive been thoroughly unimpressed -- from the skipping out on the post game a few nights ago to the general selfish play on the court and sniping of his teammates. the fact that guys in denver were talking about how its refreshing to play team basketball and have won 10 of 13 lead me to believe he's a guy people don't love playing with.

This team is really getting to me.

BigSm00th wrote:what about my question:

knicks are 7-9 and the knuggets are 10-3 since the deal. what explains that?

melo made stupid plays down the stretch as well. on a whole, ive been thoroughly unimpressed -- from the skipping out on the post game a few nights ago to the general selfish play on the court and sniping of his teammates. the fact that guys in denver were talking about how its refreshing to play team basketball and have won 10 of 13 lead me to believe he's a guy people don't love playing with.

not really sure why the Nuggets are gelling so well, it could be a lot of different factors... gotta give them credit they've been playing great, but that doesn't automatically translate into the Knicks playing great basketball if we hadn't made the Melo trade either... bottomline for me i'm not sure Gallo, Wilson & Felton are leading that team to 50+ wins the past 3 years & getting that team to the playoffs in 7 straight in the WC... & really what they say about Melo after the fact sounds like some typical bytchassness that happens when someone leaves you for someone else... if i were on the Nuggets & our star player pretty much forced his way out of town i doubt i'd have many positive things to say about him either... i highly doubt any of them were cursing Melo when they were winning games & getting into the playoffs for 7 straight years helping some of their scrubs get some playoff experience, i'm sure they all hated playing with Melo then too... btw, their own GM said he felt they got killed in the trade how do u think that reflects on Melo do u honestly think he was happy to be rid of him?

anyway, George Karl isn't exactly known to be the most magnanimous guy in the world himself the extent he went to praise Chauncey & diss Melo as if Chauncey was the reason the Nuggets have been good since he was their head coach is pretty laughable... right now Chauncey looks like a trainwreck do u think he deserves a chance to get acclimated to a new system before we judge him fully? i do, & i think Melo deserves the same... God forbid we give these guys more than a couple weeks to be dominating the NBA some of you guys talk like this team's lost every single game since we made that trade... look i'm right there with u frustrated as hell we've been dropping games to crappy teams like the Cavs & Pacers, but is Melo really the only reason why we're losing games right now? a guy who's averaging what is it 25 ppg or whatever it is since the trade is the reason why we're sucking against teams we should be able to beat? i don't buy it.

BigSm00th wrote:what about my question:

knicks are 7-9 and the knuggets are 10-3 since the deal. what explains that?

melo made stupid plays down the stretch as well. on a whole, ive been thoroughly unimpressed -- from the skipping out on the post game a few nights ago to the general selfish play on the court and sniping of his teammates. the fact that guys in denver were talking about how its refreshing to play team basketball and have won 10 of 13 lead me to believe he's a guy people don't love playing with.

The Nuggets inserted 1 new starter into their lineup. The other players are coming in off the bench. They traded their starting PG but have a good player in Lawson who has been with the team, knows the system and was able to step right in ands run the team. Smith is doing his usual thing but Afflalo has has really stepped up his game and Nene is having the best season of his career. Their playing great team basketball but they are no closer to a championship than the Knicks are at the moment. They will crash and burn in the playoffs.

The Knicks as a team have been making stupid plays down the stretch and putting the blame solely on Melo is not cool. What do you expect the guys in Denver to say? Comparing 13 games to a 7 year career is absurd. Melo was such a locker room cancer that the Nuggets wanted to extend him. That would have really pissed off the other guys in the locker room if Melo would have just signed the extension.

The Knicks played hard last night against one of the best teams in the NBA and almost pulled it out. It's a work in progress and there are obvious holes to fill. It's amusing that most were OK with the holes and a palyoff appearance before the trade knowing that needs will be addressed for next season but add Melo and now we're supposed to win it all this year.

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BigSm00th wrote:what about my question:

knicks are 7-9 and the knuggets are 10-3 since the deal. what explains that?

melo made stupid plays down the stretch as well. on a whole, ive been thoroughly unimpressed -- from the skipping out on the post game a few nights ago to the general selfish play on the court and sniping of his teammates. the fact that guys in denver were talking about how its refreshing to play team basketball and have won 10 of 13 lead me to believe he's a guy people don't love playing with.

The Nuggets inserted 1 new starter into their lineup. The other players are coming in off the bench. They traded their starting PG but have a good player in Lawson who has been with the team, knows the system and was able to step right in ands run the team. Smith is doing his usual thing but Afflalo has has really stepped up his game and Nene is having the best season of his career. Their playing great team basketball but they are no closer to a championship than the Knicks are at the moment. They will crash and burn in the playoffs.

The Knicks as a team have been making stupid plays down the stretch and putting the blame solely on Melo is not cool. What do you expect the guys in Denver to say? Comparing 13 games to a 7 year career is absurd. Melo was such a locker room cancer that the Nuggets wanted to extend him. That would have really pissed off the other guys in the locker room if Melo would have just signed the extension.

The Knicks played hard last night against one of the best teams in the NBA and almost pulled it out. It's a work in progress and there are obvious holes to fill. It's amusing that most were OK with the holes and a palyoff appearance before the trade knowing that needs will be addressed for next season but add Melo and now we're supposed to win it all this year.

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two words: barry bonds.

arguably the biggest cancer in MLB history and yet the giants wouldn't get rid of him. why? because pro sports is a business first and foremost, and if a player will put people in the seats you keep him. if the other players don't like him, you get other players.

we'll see what happens with melo, but it is hard to not watch these games and think this guy is a winner. what do you melo defenders think? i see a guy who complains a lot, who bitches at teammates when he's not getting the ball, who loses interest when he's not involved. yesterday when the knicks were up 4 with 5 to play melo didn't have a touch on one possession, and the next time down he took it by himself, isoed, and then took an awful shot, as if as long as melo took a shot it was all good.

i see a lot of iverson and marbury in carmelo. i do not see a lot of kobe or garnett in him.

and maybe that's what some ppl want after a decade of pathetic basketball. melo can lead the league in scoring and hit some big shots now and then, but when it comes down to the nitty gritty and winning tough games, this guy is NOT a true alpha dog and not a team leader.

fishmike wrote:

BigSm00th wrote:

CashMoney wrote:

BigSm00th wrote:what about my question:

knicks are 7-9 and the knuggets are 10-3 since the deal. what explains that?

melo made stupid plays down the stretch as well. on a whole, ive been thoroughly unimpressed -- from the skipping out on the post game a few nights ago to the general selfish play on the court and sniping of his teammates. the fact that guys in denver were talking about how its refreshing to play team basketball and have won 10 of 13 lead me to believe he's a guy people don't love playing with.

The Nuggets inserted 1 new starter into their lineup. The other players are coming in off the bench. They traded their starting PG but have a good player in Lawson who has been with the team, knows the system and was able to step right in ands run the team. Smith is doing his usual thing but Afflalo has has really stepped up his game and Nene is having the best season of his career. Their playing great team basketball but they are no closer to a championship than the Knicks are at the moment. They will crash and burn in the playoffs.

The Knicks as a team have been making stupid plays down the stretch and putting the blame solely on Melo is not cool. What do you expect the guys in Denver to say? Comparing 13 games to a 7 year career is absurd. Melo was such a locker room cancer that the Nuggets wanted to extend him. That would have really pissed off the other guys in the locker room if Melo would have just signed the extension.

The Knicks played hard last night against one of the best teams in the NBA and almost pulled it out. It's a work in progress and there are obvious holes to fill. It's amusing that most were OK with the holes and a palyoff appearance before the trade knowing that needs will be addressed for next season but add Melo and now we're supposed to win it all this year.

I'm CashMoney and I approve this message.

two words: barry bonds.

arguably the biggest cancer in MLB history and yet the giants wouldn't get rid of him. why? because pro sports is a business first and foremost, and if a player will put people in the seats you keep him. if the other players don't like him, you get other players.

we'll see what happens with melo, but it is hard to not watch these games and think this guy is a winner. what do you melo defenders think? i see a guy who complains a lot, who bitches at teammates when he's not getting the ball, who loses interest when he's not involved. yesterday when the knicks were up 4 with 5 to play melo didn't have a touch on one possession, and the next time down he took it by himself, isoed, and then took an awful shot, as if as long as melo took a shot it was all good.

i see a lot of iverson and marbury in carmelo. i do not see a lot of kobe or garnett in him.

and maybe that's what some ppl want after a decade of pathetic basketball. melo can lead the league in scoring and hit some big shots now and then, but when it comes down to the nitty gritty and winning tough games, this guy is NOT a true alpha dog and not a team leader.

I dont think Melo is as bad as you make him out.

I think the Wojo article is spot on. I see a guy who's been coddled and enabled and simply doesnt have the tools to deal with this situation.

Look at how Amare handled the bad start. He said we all need to get better, and that starts with himself, then he acted that way on the court with effort and leadership. Is there anything about Melo that gives you the impression he's got that? I dont even blame him that much for him.

What Melo needs to do is lead with defense, rebounding and looking for his teammates. His shots will come. He needs to be one of the guys. Not a diva.

Coming to New York is an adjustment for all players, even more so for star players. A-Rod was a damn mess until a few years ago when he stopped the nonsense. Melo has been coddled and Denver is a far different place than NYC. He's still young and a bit immature but I think he'll figure it out. Luckily he has Amar'e to lean on as far as the media goes. He just needs to buy into the system.