"They need to get it together or become trade fodder this summer."

More trades?

Really?

Landry Fields, a rookie having a solid year, is a problem now?

"Now he is trying to create and sucking badly. "

Without a doubt, this is the most arbitrary assessment of young basketball talent ever written. A rookie, who has started since day one, should never test his limits?

Douglas has been shuttled from the bench to starting and back to the bench. Not an excuse, Toney Dougie is still learning.

How is a player supposed to improve if he does not push himself to discover and develop other aspects of his game?

Did you consider AnubisADL, with four rotation players suddenly removed from the only pro roster he has ever known, if Fields' role may have been affected?

We still do not have a center.

martin wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Fields was solid playing his role as a rebounder and defender. Now he is trying to create and sucking badly. Fields should stick to what he was doing before. We need Fields to defender, hit open shots, and rebound. We dont need him to impersonate Al Thorton.

don't agree. When all you have a spot-up jumpshot, the defense knows how to play you. You HAVE to change your game, and this is probably precisely what the coaching staff has suggested he had to his game. Execution not there yet, but it's close.

You add to your game during the summer not mid season. We dont have time for Fields to try new things this late in the season.

Paladin55 wrote:We have many problems on this team...don't see where the play of a rookie and a 2nd year player are guys who should be singled out...IMHO, of course.

Their play will affect their future with the team because they are one of the few trading assets we have left. We are trying to be contenders. Everyone except Amare and Melo are expendable.

AnubisADL wrote:

martin wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Fields was solid playing his role as a rebounder and defender. Now he is trying to create and sucking badly. Fields should stick to what he was doing before. We need Fields to defender, hit open shots, and rebound. We dont need him to impersonate Al Thorton.

don't agree. When all you have a spot-up jumpshot, the defense knows how to play you. You HAVE to change your game, and this is probably precisely what the coaching staff has suggested he had to his game. Execution not there yet, but it's close.

You add to your game during the summer not mid season. We dont have time for Fields to try new things this late in the season.

AnubisADL - c'mon.

A players game is always evolving. You stay the same, you get predictable.

You get predictable, you get left behind.

Too many advance scouts are watching and charting your tendencies.

Invent.

martin wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

martin wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Fields was solid playing his role as a rebounder and defender. Now he is trying to create and sucking badly. Fields should stick to what he was doing before. We need Fields to defender, hit open shots, and rebound. We dont need him to impersonate Al Thorton.

don't agree. When all you have a spot-up jumpshot, the defense knows how to play you. You HAVE to change your game, and this is probably precisely what the coaching staff has suggested he had to his game. Execution not there yet, but it's close.

You add to your game during the summer not mid season. We dont have time for Fields to try new things this late in the season.

bull crap. Even Clyde mentions it every other game regarding both Fields and Shawne.

Dude, perfecting your game over the summer is not new concept. Please tell me when players have time to work on their game during the hectic season?

All the good players work on their game over the summer to improve. They dont add new pieces mid-season.

AnubisADL wrote:

martin wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

martin wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Fields was solid playing his role as a rebounder and defender. Now he is trying to create and sucking badly. Fields should stick to what he was doing before. We need Fields to defender, hit open shots, and rebound. We dont need him to impersonate Al Thorton.

don't agree. When all you have a spot-up jumpshot, the defense knows how to play you. You HAVE to change your game, and this is probably precisely what the coaching staff has suggested he had to his game. Execution not there yet, but it's close.

You add to your game during the summer not mid season. We dont have time for Fields to try new things this late in the season.

bull crap. Even Clyde mentions it every other game regarding both Fields and Shawne.

Dude, perfecting your game over the summer is not new concept. Please tell me when players have time to work on their game during the hectic season?

All the good players work on their game over the summer to improve. They dont add new pieces mid-season.

what you are suggesting doesn't make sense. Are you suggesting that guys do not stay after practice during the year and work on their game?

And especially as a rookie, you first limit your game to fit in, and then you add stuff back in once the game comes to you.

To me the problem continues to be decent interior play at the center spot..Just decent--I was prepared to settle for decent--that's all we would've needed..Some much-needed rebounding, a little interior defense and some scoring to keep defenses honest (maybe enough scoring where Amar'e could conceivably gotten more chances to rest down the stretch)...We needed an upgrade from Turiaf and we didn't get that with Jeffries..I'd argue that we got a worse player than Turiaf in fact---I'd much rather have Turiaf's bulk and interior defense over what Jeffries provides ANY DAY OF THE WEEK---I don't care how many charges JJ draws with his flopping...We had opportunities to choose from quite a few decent bigs in the few weeks leading up to the waiver deadline that could've contributed some nice two-way ball along with some rebounding and we passed to get Jeffries who doesn't improve this team in any of these crucial areas (I'm talking legit center types---Jeffries doesn't play anywhere near his 6'11" height and we already knew Turiaf was on the small side and lacks some key skills)..And then we used another open roster spot for an undersized PF that we had no intention of playing and now that kid's disgruntled. Our two additions made ZERO sense to me..ZIPPO.

You can't possibly argue it...Jeff Adrien AND Marcus Cousin were the two guys I wanted to fill these weaknesses. I wanted them bad..BAD!! I know what our weaknesses are and I've seen each of these guys enough to KNOW FOR A FACT they could shored up some of those weaknesses..The fact that neither is playing right now for their respective teams MEANS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO ME (I know some of you that aren't familar at all with their skills will try and argue that, please don't bother)..If we would've added these two and done nothing else, provided we would've given them the adequate PT to help us & have an impact (something I doubt D'Antoni would've given them which probably makes the whole point moot I guess), we'd be a much improved team right now. Much more complete..No doubt in my mind. We'd all be taking about what great finds both guys were and how much Donnie needs to be brought back..I can only hope both guys become available this offseason and we jump at the chance to bring both to training camp..WTF, I even would've jumped at the chance to add Earl Barron..The proof was in the pudding with this guy--HE PLAYED VERY WELL here the first time around..He would've been great and it sounded like he wanted to come back and we may have actually wanted him..Too bad we only had lukewarm interest: according to Barron & his representation, we took way too long to clear a roster spot and they couldn't wait around for us..HUGE MISTAKE AND MISSED OPPORTUNITY..We committed to Jeffries days before we picked him up--why could we have given that committment to Barron instead?? Legit C-type, rebounder, nice mid-range jumpshooter..We picked up the wrong guys at the waiver deadline fellas..Plain and simple.

BRIGGS wrote:WTF are u talking about? Fields and Douglas give us hope. Right now people know that we got F over so hard int hat melo trade--we had young hungry guy we couldve kept together for 10 years--and we nBLEW it. I hope the Knicks LOSE the next 20 games and DFolan Gets F trying to make FANs pay for his MSG--yes Im putting the hex on my own team Lose lose lose!!!!!!!!!

The two great things about he team douglas and fields--and your e f them??? its people who like you who endorsed this trade at any cost who DON'T KNOW SHT about basketball maybe Dolan should hire you and TMS:) go get the next star use Fields Douglas and the pick

You should be the last one throwing insults.

Fields and Douglas give us hope of what? Young talent? If you dont have hope with 2 superstars then I dont know what to tell you.