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arkrud
Posts: 32217 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 8/31/2005 Member: #995 USA |
3/16/2011 11:00 PM LAST EDITED: 3/16/2011 11:10 PM
I think it is important to cool down the expectations.
Melo in no James, and Billups in no Wade. And scrubs and rookies are scrubs and rookies. Stat will not get new legs and Tony will not grow more brain. Walsh will not get younger and Dolan will not get smarter. And yes... tickets will not get chipper... "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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Marv
Posts: 35540 Alba Posts: 69 Joined: 9/2/2002 Member: #315 |
3/16/2011 11:11 PM
tickets will definitely not get chipper. and that's no send closk.
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Knixkik
Posts: 35449 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #11 USA |
3/16/2011 11:50 PM
Childs2Dudley wrote: Who's looking back? It was the right move. And that is not even the topic of this thread, nor has the trade come into question at all in these replies. |
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Childs2Dudley
Posts: 23906 Alba Posts: 5 Joined: 1/25/2010 Member: #3051 USA |
3/16/2011 11:50 PM
Knixkik wrote:Childs2Dudley wrote: That remains to be seen. "Our attitude toward life determines life's attitude towards us." - Earl Nightingale
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arkrud
Posts: 32217 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 8/31/2005 Member: #995 USA |
3/17/2011 12:53 AM
Childs2Dudley wrote:Knixkik wrote:Childs2Dudley wrote: The topic of the thread is about people getting all upset with losing... which is normal.. even if losing is the only way to get to winning. "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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Nalod
Posts: 71160 Alba Posts: 155 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
3/17/2011 1:00 AM
9-2....Watched denver take apart Atlanta. No Mozzy and no Gallo but Wil played great and Felton is their man now.
Ball movement is excellent as is defense. they are very deep now. Knicks will get it together. Trades are tough. Whats done is done for better or worse. |
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GoNyGoNyGo
Posts: 23559 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/29/2003 Member: #411 USA |
3/17/2011 8:36 AM
Denver is giving 10....I repeat 10, points per game less than they were before the trade. That is funny since they are doing it with former Knicks. Who knew they could play Defense?
That being said, this is not a complete roster right now. We need to reserve judgement until next year on the trade and the coach. Let's see what they can do to make it right. |
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Knicksfan
Posts: 33474 Alba Posts: 27 Joined: 7/5/2004 Member: #691 USA |
3/17/2011 8:46 AM
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Denver is giving 10....I repeat 10, points per game less than they were before the trade. That is funny since they are doing it with former Knicks. Who knew they could play Defense? Didn't you know? Coaching is the least of our problems. Knicks_Fan
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Olbrannon
Posts: 21913 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 10/2/2009 Member: #2919 USA |
3/17/2011 8:50 AM
arkrud wrote:I think it is important to cool down the expectations. IIRC TD has a master's degree. Where's yours? Bill Simmons on Tyreke Evans
"The prototypical 0-guard: Someone who handles the ball all the time, looks for his own shot, gets to the rim at will and operates best if his teammates spread the floor to watch him."
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
3/17/2011 9:02 AM
Knicksfan wrote:GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Denver is giving 10....I repeat 10, points per game less than they were before the trade. That is funny since they are doing it with former Knicks. Who knew they could play Defense? IMO it is the least of our problems. You think that if we had Dwight Howard that it would matter that much what Mike said to do on D? You don't think we'd defend and rebound better? How about just Verajao? Heck even Dalembert! We don't have anyone like that and we need it. When it comes to D, it's more about effort than schemes. Neither Amar'e nor Melo have really been terrors on D and that's with other coaches, so how is that Mike's fault? Spoelstra has all that Talent and defensive approach and yet they still have issues. I bet if you gave Mike that team they'd still play D, but the offense would be a whole lot better. |
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Solace
Posts: 30002 Alba Posts: 20 Joined: 10/30/2003 Member: #479 USA |
3/17/2011 9:04 AM
nixluva wrote:Didn't everyone say it would take about 17-20 games for this team to find itself? Sure it could come faster, but this was a major shift from the style we play. We're basically melding 2 different styles and it's not easy to find a balance on D with guys who historically aren't that good defensively. I think it's still a bit soon to pass final judgment on this group. Just one correction. IIRC, most people said 10-15. We're basically there. My main concerns are the PG position and C position. My main concern at PG comes from the fact that we can't be a running team so much with Billups running point, and that's MDA's strength. Wishing everyone well. I enjoyed posting here for a while, but as I matured I realized this forum isn't for me. We all evolve. Thanks for the memories everyone.
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
3/17/2011 9:42 AM
Solace wrote:nixluva wrote:Didn't everyone say it would take about 17-20 games for this team to find itself? Sure it could come faster, but this was a major shift from the style we play. We're basically melding 2 different styles and it's not easy to find a balance on D with guys who historically aren't that good defensively. I think it's still a bit soon to pass final judgment on this group. I think the 17 game point came from the Heats struggles early on. As for the PG, this system is still potent even without running at every turn. It's not necessary to run as it is to play with pace. We can still do that. The stats prove that this offense is still potent. Rebounding and interior defense is a huge issue. Perimeter D is also an issue when it comes to keeping quicker guards from getting off. |
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mmorman
Posts: 20053 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/5/2011 Member: #3362 |
3/17/2011 9:59 AM
We need to do the following for next year:
try to sign Billups cheaper - -make the deal before we buy him out and tell him the only way we can upgrade our roster is to sign him for 6MM instead of 14MM - -if he doesn't want it -- let him go and draft Kemba or Jimmer. use the Cap space to upgrade the center position and a sharp shooter at the 2 guard |
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JesseDark
Posts: 22777 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 9/9/2003 Member: #467 |
3/17/2011 10:04 AM
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Denver is giving 10....I repeat 10, points per game less than they were before the trade. That is funny since they are doing it with former Knicks. Who knew they could play Defense? This is an indictment of our coach. Pringles needs to either get a defensive assistant or go. This decision should be made during the off season. I can't see him getting a defensive assistant cause it would be perceived as his replacement. No coach wants that. Bring back dee-fense
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crzymdups
Posts: 52018 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/1/2004 Member: #671 USA |
3/17/2011 10:08 AM
The boring truth is that we need to be patient - both for Billups to pick up the offense and the team to learn how to play together.
And, probably in the larger sense, we need to be patient to re-stock the roster a little bit this summer. ¿ △ ?
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misterearl
Posts: 38786 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 11/16/2004 Member: #799 USA |
3/17/2011 10:11 AM LAST EDITED: 3/17/2011 10:12 AM
crzymdups wrote:The boring truth is that we need to be patient - both for Billups to pick up the offense and the team to learn how to play together. Hilarious. Re-stock the roster a little bit? We are short four rotation players. The shopping list includes two 6'11 centers, a 6'9 power forward with some lean muscle and a 6'3 guard with leadership potential. Piece of cake. once a knick always a knick
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