You can't and shouldn't ever invest long term money in a player who hasn't proved he can play more than half a season at peak health/peak performance...

Panos wrote:I'm not paying $7M guaranteed per for him.
Anyone who signs Oden has to make a contract with low guaranteed money, and lots of incentive money.
Not interested in another albatross contract. $3M base per year + up to $10M in incentives.
How would that work against the cap? Anyone know?

That, or team options every year.

I would offer him a 3 year $9 million contract where both the Knicks and Oden have option to terminate the contract. If he actually plays he can see if he can get a better deal and if he doesn't play the Knicks can get out of it. But that's the most generous offer I'd make

New York Knicks: 5 Reasons Why They Should Go after Greg Oden
http://tinyurl.com/4bptkcf

In short:
(1) Inside Dominance on Offense In 24 minutes last year, he averaged 11.1 points. His per 36 minutes stat for scoring are over 16 a game.

(2) Down Low Defense When healthy, Greg Oden is a top three shot-blocker in the league, surpassed only by Dwight Howard and Andrew Bogut. Last year he swatted 2.3 shots on a nightly basis, and his per 36 minute stat for blocks was a staggering 3.5 blocks per game!

(3) Fixing Rotation Bringing in Oden would give the Knicks a true center, something they've been lacking this entire season. They haven't had anyone to consistently crash the boards and defend down low. Also on offense, Amar'e is better playing the power forward, being able to roam the court more freely, and outmuscle the opposing team's forwards.

(4) Won't Mess Up Chemistry Greg's always been a humble guy, and he's shown it in his time with the league. He has always taken the blame for not being there for his teammates, even though it is not his fault. He is a positive influence in any locker room, and is a hard worker who others can learn from. Also, it's nice to have a 7'0", 270-pound beast to back you up when someone decides to knock you down a little too hard on a shot.

(5) He Can Pair Up with Amar'e To Form the Best Frontcourt in the League Having both Greg and Amar'e would give New York the deadliest frontcourt in not only the East, but the entire league. Together, they can easily average five blocks per game combined, and would be able to dominate the offensive and defensive glass. Greg would also be able to learn from one of the most successful players to ever undergo microfracture surgery. The team would be dominating inside on both offense and defense. Add Carmelo Anthony to the frontcourt, and you have the best rebounding frontcourt, also.

IMO I'd take him for the right price and love if he came here to try to redeem himself and get his career back on track. But I don't think we could get him for cheap enough to make it worthwhile.

We just need our center to be able to run, block shots, and dunk the ball.

AnubisADL wrote:I prefer the Knicks go after Deandre Jordan for health reasons. I want Dalembert but I have a feeling he will be heading to Miami unless some other team over pays him.

We just need our center to be able to run, block shots, and dunk the ball.

The Clippers are going to let Kaman go and resign De'Andre. THey want him as their future center. Unless he is an unrestricted FA, which he may be, we would have to overpay to get him.

AnubisADL wrote:

TheGame wrote:The Clippers are going to let Kaman go and resign De'Andre. THey want him as their future center. Unless he is an unrestricted FA, which he may be, we would have to overpay to get him.

Deandre Jordan and Greg Oden are both restricted free agents. We have to over pay for either so I'd prefer to overpay for the less injury prone Jordan. Clippers are cheap and I don't see them wanting to pay Jordan depending on the new CBA. If we do a deal like Portland signed Milsap too they make decide to pass.

Allanfan20 wrote:We don't even have the capspace to go after him this Summer, correct? What's the point in even discussing this then?

we're all conditioned to talk about potential future Knicks

TheGame wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:We don't even have the capspace to go after him this Summer, correct? What's the point in even discussing this then?

With that said, the guy is too unreliable when it comes to his health, and even when he is healthy, he never had the greatest motor. It's a bad combination, especially for MDA. If we want to learn from history, we don't give this guy a contract unless it's the LLE, and I doubt he'll go for that.

If the cap stays the same we should have roughly $8 mill in cap space if we let all our free agents go.

if that's the case, I'd advocate offering him a one year with whatever the available cash is. If he plays well he can work himself into a new deal. If not, thanks for trying