Earl Barron is actually the same weight as Shelden, with a better offensive game. But with more height. 7'0 250 lbs

Signing Barron is a must.

I think losing Timofey is not a big deal, if we can sign Barron.

Turiaf, Shelden and Barron >>>>> Turiaf and Timofey

Just from an IQ perspective alone....Shelden is better than Timofey (right now)!

Panos wrote:We traded Mosgov, our project center.
Turiaf is often injured, and otherwise a 15-20 min guy.
Sheldon Williams stinks.
Amare is not a center, and should not be asked to play there, as he will break down.
At the end of the day, we do not have a legitimate starting center.

Walsh, if you're still with us, Please go get us a center!

I guess this is the part where we really see how easy/hard it will be to fill in the roster around 2 max guys and most of our draft picks gone.

Armondaone wrote:not sure if i should post this here but:
AZu-3.3mil
C.Brewer-3.7mil
A. Carter-1.3 mil
R.mason- 1.4 mil
R. Balkman -1.6
total= 11.3 mil

Chris Kaman= 11.3 mil

why Clips get cap relief this offseason balk is 2 more years at 1.6ish, dont give brewer a QO let him walk.
why NY does it kaman good center IF healthy, contract ends about same time as 2012 FA class. ( sign and trade piece if necessary other wise let him go)

Not a bad starting line up, get back ups as teams start to buy out players, or d-league, etc.

I'm pretty certain given the Knicks are over that cap combining players they just acquired in multi-player transaction is prohibited.

Each can be traded in individual trades, and Azubuike and Mason Jr. can be combined of course, but the new guys can't be combined together.

Armondaone wrote:I did not know that thanks for the info. I guess just sign players as they get wavied

this is the relevant passage from Coon'd FAQ. I THINK I've interpreted it correctly...

In addition, teams cannot trade players under the following circumstances:

* For two months after receiving the player in trade or claiming him off waivers, if the player's salary is aggregated with the salaries of other players. However, the team is free to trade the player either by himself (not packaged with other players), or without combining his salary with other salaries to acquire a more expensive player, immediately. This restriction applies only to teams over the salary cap. (Also see question number 75.)

Hmmm, reading it again, maybe this means Brewer can be combined, unless they consider Brewer and 'Melo (and co.) coming in the same trade.

We need a ruling from Coon on this one...

misterearl wrote:Shelden Williams is a Turiaf type player (undersized center)....High IQ from Duke, that likes to bang down low. 6'9 250 lbs

blkexec - that Duke "high IQ" nonsense does not make one bit of difference to any center in the NBA.

Sheldon Williams is nothing like Ronny Turiaf. Does not have Turiaf's motor or emotion-based skill set. Sheldon Williams is a bust of the highest order. Traded from Atlanta where he underachieved so greatly the fans threw a parade for his route to the airport. An ornament in Denver.

No. Sheldon Williams is nowhere close to an answer to any relevant basketball question except:

"name one guy the Atlanta Hawks wish they could get a do-over on his draft position"

I think if the Hawks had a do-over in the draft, they MIGHT, just might, regret taking Marvin Williams over Chris Paul and Deron Williams.

There's no reason to hate on Shelden Williams. Duke runs a similar offense to MDA's. He could actually fit here.

No reason to hate on a player who hasn't done anything wrong yet.

There is every reason to hate on Shaldon Williams as a basketball player on my beloved New York Knicks.

Think DaJuan Blair without the tenacity, timing, inside moves or strength.

martin is correct. Watched him up close while he was here and was under-impressed. Unless Sheldon has morphed into a completely different player...

... we got took.

crzymdups wrote:

misterearl wrote:Shelden Williams is a Turiaf type player (undersized center)....High IQ from Duke, that likes to bang down low. 6'9 250 lbs

blkexec - that Duke "high IQ" nonsense does not make one bit of difference to any center in the NBA.

Sheldon Williams is nothing like Ronny Turiaf. Does not have Turiaf's motor or emotion-based skill set. Sheldon Williams is a bust of the highest order. Traded from Atlanta where he underachieved so greatly the fans threw a parade for his route to the airport. An ornament in Denver.

No. Sheldon Williams is nowhere close to an answer to any relevant basketball question except:

"name one guy the Atlanta Hawks wish they could get a do-over on his draft position"

I think if the Hawks had a do-over in the draft, they MIGHT, just might, regret taking Marvin Williams over Chris Paul and Deron Williams.

There's no reason to hate on Shelden Williams. Duke runs a similar offense to MDA's. He could actually fit here.

No reason to hate on a player who hasn't done anything wrong yet.

After Amare and Melo our next best players are Fields, Douglas, Shawn Williams and Ronny Turiaf and thats a major setback. We have no idea if Billups is going to play ball here. If he doesnt, and if you look at the circumstances its likely he wont we have a very poor team and will be playing Amare and Melo 40 plus a night just to make the playoffs.