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James Dolan and the future of the New York Knicks
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Childs2Dudley
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2/20/2011  4:50 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/20/2011  5:22 AM
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I don't think I will survive as a fan if Dolan is the owner in the long run. It does not seem like this franchise is ever going to run smoothly when this idiot is in charge.

I am sick and tired of Isiah and this falls 100% on Dolan. If Dolan was not such a self-absorbed moronic contrarian then we would not have to be listening to Isiah Thomas interviews and rumors. Instead, we have to listen to people report how Walsh is losing power and Isiah's voice is growing stronger once again. I'm sick and tired of James Dolan. This douchebag is always depressed on the sidelines, win or loss, almost like he hates the franchise. This guy is the biggest piece of **** cancer to the franchise. Forget Layden and Isiah. It's this piece of **** right here. And it's really making me question what the point of following the team would be if this ****ing idiot will just be around to continually **** **** up every time.

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2/20/2011  5:29 AM
If the team is gutted (via Isiah and Dolan) I would love to see a walk out comprised of Walsh, D'Antoni, the assistants, etc. Would love to see Dolan look like an idiot at the news conference - where Walsh calls him and Isiah out. No coaches to coach the team as well. OK it's a bit much, but protests seem to be all the rage on earth right now. I hope these are just rumors regarding Isiah and Dolan but I am afraid they aren't.

If we give up all that Denver is asking for, and for Carmello!, it is over for us. And more importantly, Dolan went back on his word that Walsh was in control.

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2/20/2011  8:42 AM
If Dolan goes over Donnie's head then Donnie will probably walk and Mike might possibly follow.
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2/20/2011  8:49 AM
tj23 wrote:If Dolan goes over Donnie's head then Donnie will probably walk and Mike might possibly follow.

Do you think Dolan cares if Walsh walk's out? That is what Dolan wants. Then he can put his own man in as Pres/GM.
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2/20/2011  8:55 AM
Markji wrote:
tj23 wrote:If Dolan goes over Donnie's head then Donnie will probably walk and Mike might possibly follow.

Do you think Dolan cares if Walsh walk's out? That is what Dolan wants. Then he can put his own man in as Pres/GM.

Maybe you're right, but then why did he hire him in the 1st place?
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2/20/2011  9:10 AM
tj23 wrote:
Markji wrote:
tj23 wrote:If Dolan goes over Donnie's head then Donnie will probably walk and Mike might possibly follow.

Do you think Dolan cares if Walsh walk's out? That is what Dolan wants. Then he can put his own man in as Pres/GM.

Maybe you're right, but then why did he hire him in the 1st place?

Stern pushed him to.

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2/20/2011  9:10 AM
tj23 wrote:
Markji wrote:
tj23 wrote:If Dolan goes over Donnie's head then Donnie will probably walk and Mike might possibly follow.

Do you think Dolan cares if Walsh walk's out? That is what Dolan wants. Then he can put his own man in as Pres/GM.

Maybe you're right, but then why did he hire him in the 1st place?
Dolan was forced to hire Walsh by David Stern after all the dysfunctional crap and sexual harassment with Isiah, Anucha, Marbury, the intern, etc.
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2/20/2011  9:13 AM
The next GM of the New York Knicks is Allan Houston, but that Kermit the Frog-faced bastard Zeke will have a voice in the decision making. Here's hoping H20 is loud enough to shout him down.
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2/20/2011  9:22 AM
damn stern needs to ban isiah from the nba then...
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2/20/2011  9:45 AM
This is a Wojina article people. Dude has a serious agenda against the Knicks. This is all speculation, rhetorical nonsense.
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2/20/2011  10:01 AM
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2/20/2011  10:13 AM
Uptown wrote:This is a Wojina article people. Dude has a serious agenda against the Knicks. This is all speculation, rhetorical nonsense.
You are trying to dismiss the contents of this entire article because you feel the writer doesn't like the Knicks so he is making all of this up. NOT!

Wojnarowski is a national sports writer for a major news organization who also has to maintain a level of factual information and journalism standards. I don't recall any national sports writer calling out an organization and owner like he has with Dolan and Isiah in this article. There is a lot of truth in what he has written. If he made all of this up, his job would be at stake.

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2/20/2011  10:17 AM
Markji wrote:
Uptown wrote:This is a Wojina article people. Dude has a serious agenda against the Knicks. This is all speculation, rhetorical nonsense.
You are trying to dismiss the contents of this entire article because you feel the writer doesn't like the Knicks so he is making all of this up. NOT!

Wojnarowski is a national sports writer for a major news organization who also has to maintain a level of factual information and journalism standards. I don't recall any national sports writer calling out an organization and owner like he has with Dolan and Isiah in this article. There is a lot of truth in what he has written. If he made all of this up, his job would be at stake.

Yea, I believe Woj. I'm disappointed, sad, all of that.

Given this information, it's hard to root for the Knicks right now. I find myself rooting for Donnie Walsh to resign for his own sake.

WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
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2/20/2011  10:21 AM
Owner has all rights to destroy his property.
And consumer has all rights to stop going after the product they do not like.
BBal fans will have an alternative product in NYC soon so if Dolan will make Knicks irrelevant it is not so bad anymore.
It will be cool when all this celebs and media will show him their back and Knicks will becam a Clips on NYC.
You get what you deserve at the end.
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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2/20/2011  10:31 AM
Markji wrote:
Uptown wrote:This is a Wojina article people. Dude has a serious agenda against the Knicks. This is all speculation, rhetorical nonsense.
You are trying to dismiss the contents of this entire article because you feel the writer doesn't like the Knicks so he is making all of this up. NOT!

Wojnarowski is a national sports writer for a major news organization who also has to maintain a level of factual information and journalism standards. I don't recall any national sports writer calling out an organization and owner like he has with Dolan and Isiah in this article. There is a lot of truth in what he has written. If he made all of this up, his job would be at stake.

Would you believe Mike Lupica:

"This executive said that Isiah Thomas, who likes to think of himself as the de facto general manager of the Knicks because of his relationship with Dolan ("Lot of us in the NBA are envious of Isiah," my source said. "We all wish we had a billionaire friend like that"), isn't as involved in the process with Anthony as he wants people to believe. But then if you were Isiah, and you were coaching a dreadful college basketball team like the one he's coaching at Florida International, you'd wanted to play dress-up and pretend that you're still running the Knicks, too."

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2/20/2011  10:36 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/20/2011  11:14 AM
orangeblobman wrote:
Markji wrote:
Uptown wrote:This is a Wojina article people. Dude has a serious agenda against the Knicks. This is all speculation, rhetorical nonsense.
You are trying to dismiss the contents of this entire article because you feel the writer doesn't like the Knicks so he is making all of this up. NOT!

Wojnarowski is a national sports writer for a major news organization who also has to maintain a level of factual information and journalism standards. I don't recall any national sports writer calling out an organization and owner like he has with Dolan and Isiah in this article. There is a lot of truth in what he has written. If he made all of this up, his job would be at stake.

Yea, I believe Woj. I'm disappointed, sad, all of that.

Given this information, it's hard to root for the Knicks right now. I find myself rooting for Donnie Walsh to resign for his own sake.

Its all selective depending on your outlook. Fans who have negative outlooks toward Dolan will naturally gravitate towards any articles that may highlight any of the negative beliefs thay had no matter how far-fecthed thay may be and vice-versa.

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2/20/2011  10:46 AM
This is according to Ken Berger:

"A person who was briefed on the meeting confirmed multiple reports that the meeting took place at a Los Angeles restaurant and also included Anthony's agent, Leon Rose; his adviser, Robert "Bay" Frazier; Nets general manager Billy King; and executive Brett Yormark. Anthony, whose long-held preference to play for the Knicks has only grown stronger in recent days, left the meeting without making a commitment to signing a three-year, $65 million extension with New Jersey that is a requirement of the trade.

A second person with knowledge of the meeting told CBSSports.com that Anthony's agreement to meet with the Nets was a condition of the Nuggets' decision to grant permission to Madison Square Garden chairman James Dolan to meet with him. The arrangement was a "quid pro quo," said the source, noting strong indications that Dolan wouldn't have been given permission to meet with Anthony unless Anthony also agreed to meet with the Nets."


The only reason Dolan gets involved is because Anthony asked for a meeting.

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2/20/2011  10:47 AM
Uptown wrote:This is a Wojina article people. Dude has a serious agenda against the Knicks. This is all speculation, rhetorical nonsense.

I agree, lets not overreact before you see real news from real news media. Dropping Isiah's name just creates he perfent environment for a tabloid circus and that's what these idiots want to do. May be Lil Jimmy is a fat phucktard and Isiah is coming back, but I don't see why we can't wait till we get that news from real people ratrher than "sources with knowledge of the situation".

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2/20/2011  11:13 AM
If Isiah is back with club I would switch allegiances to the Brooklyn Nets
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2/20/2011  1:53 PM
earthmansurfer wrote:If the team is gutted (via Isiah and Dolan) I would love to see a walk out comprised of Walsh, D'Antoni, the assistants, etc. Would love to see Dolan look like an idiot at the news conference - where Walsh calls him and Isiah out. No coaches to coach the team as well. OK it's a bit much, but protests seem to be all the rage on earth right now. I hope these are just rumors regarding Isiah and Dolan but I am afraid they aren't.

If we give up all that Denver is asking for, and for Carmello!, it is over for us. And more importantly, Dolan went back on his word that Walsh was in control.

Papabear Says

Hey This is Dolan's team and you could hear the fans saying Carmelo or Melo.We all are just a little dot in this equasion.No one can stop anyone from leaving the Knicks and going to the Nets. I'm a Knicks fan and I've been one for over 50 years. I ain't going nowhere.

Papabear
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