Big Baby I could see. These other guys won't come here with the risk of riding pine.

TMS wrote:care to tell us how u plan on getting those players on your list? i don't see how u can get any of them & still be in the running to sign Melo as a FA this summer... do u really think selling him on a plan to split a max contract with a role playing C is realistic? no one is gonna agree to that not even Lebron.

Amare 18.2m
Felton 7.5
Gallo 4.2
Mosgov 2.5
TD 1.2
Walker 800k team option
Fields 800k
1st rounder 2m? we can sell, trade for future 1st rounder, or use for in a sign and trade for either player

thats only about 36-39mill in committed salary.
this is all under the assumption, that they are willing to take a slight pay cut.

13m for melo
10m for Tyson Chandler

Forgive me if I am wrong, but I am not familiar with the cap.
lets assume Melo stays in Denver.
Tyson Chandler stays in Dallas, very likely

in the summer, these 2 unite and pull a lebron n bosh and say WE WANT TO THE KNICKS.

Some Questions? Since we are currently under the cap...
1)Can we trade for both players and go over the cap?
a) melo forces trade or risk losing nothing to Knicks AGAIN
1) work a deal around with Gallo and/or
a) 2 first round picks (1 from AR)
b) 2 2nd round picks from GS(david lee)
*we dont have to use them all to acquire Melo either*

b) sign and trade T. Chandler with dallas, do we have to match salary for this one?
what if it is a 3 way trade with Dallas, Denver and Knicks?
or
if Melo is traded first then Tyson Chandler traded after
use Gallo, WC, MOSGOV, and w/e is left from ABOVE and whoever is left

2)If so, do we gain a mid level exception, if there still is one...

I know there are a lot of WHAT IF questions and possibilities but I hope you guys can see where I am going at...

And I want Dantoni fired before we pitch our sales for Tyson Chandler. JVG back, I want the late 90s, early 2000 knicks mentality back.
Honestly, I have a problem believing these Nets rumors. I dont see why Nets would give 4 1st rounders for Melo, when they can get away with it for 3 first round picks.
I believe this is all Denver using the media to make Knicks up their offer.

If Melo is really about the money and goes to Nets, there are so many scenarios that can happen right now with different combinations and different effects between players

players that we can deal for for a small price fixture include

Wilson Chandler for Rudy Fern/Joel Przybilla

Luke Ridnour
Sessions
Anthony Parker *

some players with fair contracts that teams seem to be willing to part with and lesser values

andre iguodala 12.5m this year 13.5 in the summer
Monta Ellis 11m this year 11m in the summer

Chris Kaman 11.2m this year 12.2 summer
Varejo 7m this year 7.7

Lesser Talents

Sessions 4mthis year 4.2/summer
Luke Ridnour 4mthis year 3.7/summer
Hinrich 9mthis year 8m/summer

Free Agency

Tyson Chandler
Kendrick Perkins
Glen Davis
Yao Ming

Dalembert
Joel Przybilla
Kris Humphries
Dampier

Troy Murphy
Reggie Evans
Joe Smith

Zack Randolph
David West *player option*

Shannon Brown
Matt Barnes
Caron Butler
Tayshaun Prince
Carl Landry
Shane Battier

Tony Parker

3rd/4th Years
Mark Gasol
Deandre Jordan
Spencer Hawes
Greg Oden
Jeff Green *4th year*
Thaddeus Young
Nick Young
Aaron Brooks
Arron Afflalo

Mo Williams *player option*
Jamal Crawford
Jason Richardson

Cheap fixes/aged stars/low maintenance/low ball
Chris Wilcox
Nazr Mohammed
Kwame Brown
Jared Jeffries
Jason Collins

Jamario Moon *team option*

Tracy McGrady
Von Wafer
Marquis Daniels
Jason Kapono
Predrag Stojakovic
Leon Powe
Mo Evans
James Jones
DeShawn Stevenson

Rudy Fern
Jose Juan Barea
TJ Ford
Anthony Parker
Delonte West
Sasha Vujacic
Carlos Arroyos
Earl Watson
Ronnie Price
Antione Wright

Bonn1997 wrote:Good call on Tyson!
I don't see what the point in bumping these threads is other then to congratulate yourself though.

The DATES and POSTS both

show validation/credibility/vision in my thoughts/analysis vs some posters that POST watching from results of players and what we "SHOULD/COULD" have done AFTER they have success on other teams....

RonRon wrote:

3G4G wrote:I think the acquisition of Tyson was waisted amnesty dollars sacrificing flexibility. We should have picked up players on 1-2yrs deals at best.

The amnesty did not exist during the time of this post, this is before the deal for Melo and the lockout year

Walsh had a plan to execute with *SIGNING FA's* and acquiring as many asset's as possible for future deals, while contending/building a foundation
Walsh missed on on PLAN A *Lebron and another STAR signing in addition to our core*, but Dolan chose plan Z *trade for Melo leading to moves now*, while Walsh had B,C,D to resort to
But Dolan stepped in each time with Isiah to employ their own strategy in the final minutes that Walsh built this theory and foundation on...
The building cannot support itself with no foundation, that is why we are failing/falling...

I also thought STAT was an upgrade over Lee at the time, boy was I wrong
I preferred signing a FA like TC instead of trading for Melo with Curry's expiring, later that summer

I agree, in fact I never wanted the Knicks to pick up Billups contract as they could have waived him shortly after getting swept by Boston, for a couple of million....

Well you were looking at adding him as a FA at $10mil per would have taken a little more and looking at his current price tag once again it eliminates flexibility.

Walsh was too slow in executing his plan/predictable and left all the room open for Dolan to lust for the next star fudge. Since we had Amar'e playing somewhat like a James Harden first half of the season we should have been playing Mozgov just like the Rockets are playing Asik or even as the Bulls played Asik. You do as you said build value in your current assets but at the same time don't target players who will cause you to break the bank.

Melo was going to Jersey had we not done a deal. He wasn't going to reach the summer without a contract in hand and impending CBA deal. Of course we should have taken the risk to see how it played out, as we really had nothing to lose.

Chandler is a good player but tends be overrated.