The term Is generally used to describe an attention seeker.

I have been posting here as "Nedyal" and "Nalod" here since 2003. Maybe earlier as Nedyal, I don't remember. 15,000 posts have dulled the count. Apologies to Bip.

TMS after 40,000 posts and perhaps tens of thousands more on threads unknown has choosen to somehow deflect his object argument in an attempt to discredit my introduction to the term "starphuching" to the KNick world. I choose to spell it this way as it would not harm young minds but dropping "F" bombs. One day my children might read a collection of Nalod and such potty mouthing should not be my lasting words.

I have never read or seen "Starphuching" in any other writing. "StarFucking" I doubt would be used for any legit media content.

I bought this term to impatient knick fans who want feel the entitlement of greatness that bestow the inflated self congratulated "mecca" that calls itself "the worlds most famous arena" in a true Roman egocentric manner. Where Two championships in 60 some odd years gets this title I don't know. Not since Clair Bee graced NYU only to be rocked by scandel, and a brief period at ST Johns by Louie has this city really enjoyed basketball greatness. We have the legacy of the Yankees, Boston has the Celtics, LA has the Lakers, Montreal has the Canadians, etc etc. Knicks are famous by its fans and its celebs.

I studied how Eddie Donovan build the Knicks starting in 1964 by drafting Willis Reed. Good draft picks and trades built one of the greatest teams known for its intellect as athletic prowess. I was a rabid fan of this team. I didn't start following the team until 1971 but recall being fascinated by the process it came together and the Debusschere trade which was well argued at the time. We gave up an allstar center and high scoring guard to get him! It was before my time but it was the turning point of the franchise.

Many years have gone by trying to replicate a team worthy and failure has prevailed.

A true Starphucher feels an entitlement to win but should not have to suffer very long in a rebuilding process. Impatient and self righteous in their conviction that their way is the best way and at times its more important to be right then to win. Starphuchers hated Layden and tried not to even see he was trying to do long term. Knick Starphuchers blame Layden for things he did not even do. Layden was over his head and was no match for even the most casual starphucher. Layden did suck but we pulled the plug on him either before he could cause more harm or before he could actually use the assets he accumulated. He remains frozen in time so we'll never know. Imagine if we fired Walsh after his two years of cleaning house? Not a straight correlation to argue but you get the point.

Starphuchers loved Isiah from day one but had to relent to the lunacy in time. But Isiah was a starphuchers wet dream. How many GM's are such a big name?

He then got rid of the bland coach, bland players and go with big shiny stars at any price.

A Starphucher tolerated the last two years because the promise of Lebron and friends. A starphucher sees the current team as unfulfilled because we were promised Stars! We got one and since we suffered we must be entitled to two!!!!

We Non Starphuchers fear Dolan is a starphucher and under the disguise of "building a championship team" its really just built to go to the conference finals and maximize income. Ratings and cash flow matter. Starphuchers don't see the knicks as a business but are true fans and do want to win but are starstruck and fail to see the business side.

Starphuching as done by Boston can work. Rare occurrences of starphuching work. Yankees when they do so fail but when they built the best team in decades and a true modern dynasty it was with ingrown talent who played together what will be a record 17 years together! (Jeter-Riveria and Posada!) The lesson learned here is a super team is a "Hybrid Starphuch". This term I should copyright!

Starphuchers are not bad people. They want to win. They are not "****ers" by any degree, they just are seduced by the thrill. We all starphuch in other areas every day. If you out at the bar and see a real pretty girl and want to talk to with intentions her father would hit you for, your Starphuching! As kids we got a new box of cereal cuz the commercial and had to have it! Thats starphuching. Drink gatorade cuz you want to be like mike, your starphuching. Drink it cuz your thristy is a different story.

Knick Starphuchers usually believe other players are better than what is rostered and other coaches can do better than the current coach. They believe draft picks are easy to get and Second round picks are always sweetners in trade proposals that should make them "right". $3million is always available and other teams will always want the money. Other teams want our players even though Starphuchers don't. Starphuchers believe Former players will always make better coaches. Former players of NYC "Know" whats up and make better coaches and execs. I have heard cries we should have hired John Starks as a coach a few years back!

Starphuchers and starphuching is not a bad thing and one should even be proud of it. You love your team and are emotional about it. But a starphuching owner will "Phuck" you good.

He will give you want you want but no championship. Why? cuz starphuching wins battles but not wars.

Of note is the fact that Frazier, who would eventually become a "star," was not yet one at the time of the Komives/Bellamy for DeBusschere trade, and neither was DeBusschere, if you go by the statistics which people around here crave. We also became a much smaller team after this trade, yet Reed was able to flourish as a center without Bellamy clogging up the middle, Frazier was able to take control of the team from Komives, and DeBusschere's work ethic, team play and D would provide the glue needed to win a championship.

The two Knicks championship teams (we would have won 2 more if Reed had stayed healthy)won because of team chemistry, and those teams were always greater than the sum of their parts.

Paladin55 wrote:Quite a bit of perspective coming out of the man from Belarus.

Of note is the fact that Frazier, who would eventually become a "star," was not yet one at the time of the Komives/Bellamy for DeBusschere trade, and neither was DeBusschere, if you go by the statistics which people around here crave. We also became a much smaller team after this trade, yet Reed was able to flourish as a center without Bellamy clogging up the middle, Frazier was able to take control of the team from Komives, and DeBusschere's work ethic, team play and D would provide the glue needed to win a championship.

The two Knicks championship teams (we would have won 2 more if Reed had stayed healthy)won because of team chemistry, and those teams were always greater than the sum of their parts.

Im from Brooklyn and live in North Carolina.

Team chemistry was DeBusschere's best contribution and set the tone for hard work on defense. As Gallo, Fields and Wilson develop we see they are good players and willing to put the work in. Parker and manu were unheralded until they won and became "big" names. Starphuchers seem to only consider 'Big" when it exists on another teams roster.

Miami has its "big 3" under contract in total for like 43.5 mil a year. Melo and Amare would be over 40 just for them two. Not going to have 3 unless you get a discount. Im talking pre CBA.

But back to point, about the Knicks construction in the 1960's that led to its greatness. It took a few years. Clyde was drafted in '67. Clyde became clyde at age 25. Cazzie eventually had to go, Bradley the college star failed at the 2 spot and became a 3, and Reed was moved from the 4 to the 5. Few remember Reed before knee problems was high flying forward like in prime Dice.

TMS wrote:wow, a cheap shot directed at me for a response i made at something martin inaccurately reported on another thread... there's something new.

is this your second try at a deflection?

Nalod wrote:

Paladin55 wrote:Quite a bit of perspective coming out of the man from Belarus.

Of note is the fact that Frazier, who would eventually become a "star," was not yet one at the time of the Komives/Bellamy for DeBusschere trade, and neither was DeBusschere, if you go by the statistics which people around here crave. We also became a much smaller team after this trade, yet Reed was able to flourish as a center without Bellamy clogging up the middle, Frazier was able to take control of the team from Komives, and DeBusschere's work ethic, team play and D would provide the glue needed to win a championship.

The two Knicks championship teams (we would have won 2 more if Reed had stayed healthy)won because of team chemistry, and those teams were always greater than the sum of their parts.

Im from Brooklyn and live in North Carolina.

Team chemistry was DeBusschere's best contribution and set the tone for hard work on defense. As Gallo, Fields and Wilson develop we see they are good players and willing to put the work in. Parker and manu were unheralded until they won and became "big" names. Starphuchers seem to only consider 'Big" when it exists on another teams roster.

Miami has its "big 3" under contract in total for like 43.5 mil a year. Melo and Amare would be over 40 just for them two. Not going to have 3 unless you get a discount. Im talking pre CBA.

But back to point, about the Knicks construction in the 1960's that led to its greatness. It took a few years. Clyde was drafted in '67. Clyde became clyde at age 25. Cazzie eventually had to go, Bradley the college star failed at the 2 spot and became a 3, and Reed was moved from the 4 to the 5. Few remember Reed before knee problems was high flying forward like in prime Dice.

Yeah...Kind of figured you were not really living in Belarus... not that there is anything wrong with being a Belarusian.

Always easier to go out to eat or by a pre-made meal that make your own meal from your own ingredients. I would prefer to see my team build from near scratch, make some smart deals, and not just buy a title. I don't think I will get as much joy out of a Knicks' title if we just accumulate stars and overwhelm opponents a la Miami, although I accept that this might happen.

nice to see you encouraging this stuff... i think i'm done here... good chatting with you all the past 7 years & 40,000 posts... time to get a life.

To "Starphuch" is kind of unique. Found no reference to it anywhere. Sure the spelling is different but how its used is different.

Tms, you got grumpy on "starphuch" because your annoyed we don't agree. Thats your call. Nobody called you any names or flinged "starphucher" in your direction.

What ever.

Its entertainment. Its sports.

Prefer if you not leave over this. Your a "Starphuch" knick fan. So what? Its your belief. YOur passionate about this and want us to agree. You get respect. We all a little obnoxious from time to time. Martin had a little fun. Big deal.

40,000 posts is quite an accomplishment. Wonder if Martin will let you donate them to a fellow poster in need?

Nalod wrote:As I mentioned "star****er" is an attention seeker. I looked that up on the internet. Its commonplace.
oops....

nice to see you encouraging this stuff... i think i'm done here... good chatting with you all the past 7 years & 40,000 posts... time to get a life.

To "Starphuch" is kind of unique. Found no reference to it anywhere. Sure the spelling is different but how its used is different.

Tms, you got grumpy on "starphuch" because your annoyed we don't agree. Thats your call. Nobody called you any names or flinged "starphucher" in your direction.

What ever.

Its entertainment. Its sports.

Prefer if you not leave over this. Your a "Starphuch" knick fan. So what? Its your belief. YOur passionate about this and want us to agree. You get respect. We all a little obnoxious from time to time. Martin had a little fun. Big deal.

40,000 posts is quite an accomplishment. Wonder if Martin will let you donate them to a fellow poster in need?

dude, i don't appreciate this kinda sheit, i invest a ton of my time trying to spur discussions i don't need to have to read cheap shots like that which are unwarranted, i never took any potshots at you in the other thread leading up to this... was never a big deal to me i could have cared less who invested the word, u wanna take credit for it tremendous, leave me out of your stupid sarcasm, it's not appreciated.

TMS after 40,000 posts and perhaps tens of thousands more on threads unknown has choosen to somehow deflect his object argument in an attempt to discredit my introduction to the term "starphuching" to the KNick world.