BRIGGS wrote:

nixluva wrote:Nah, don't believe the hype. This deal is getting done. They won't get all of those players tho. It'll end up being 2 of either Gallo, Chan and Fields, but not all 3. We'll take Billups for Ray and No Moz. Curry and Draft pick. I think Denver will accept that deal. This would save them a lot of money and still give them good young talent.

ill be honest with you--right now Id talk them into the trade deadline and then backout and take him free agency. Just tell Melos backers that Denver wanted the entire team and there would be nothing left to win with anyway.

The closer it gets to the deadline--the lower Denvers take will be. If Melo wants to come to NY--he can wait 30 games and a few months right?

Agree 100%. ANd I would not increase the offer one iota. Gallo OR Chandler, Felton, Curry, pick, $3mil for Melo and Billups. Nothing more, nothing less. Certainly not adding another one of our starters (Fields or Moz) or even Buke for that matter.

I prefer we MISS OUT on Melo so that we can sign him in the summer and retain Gallo and Fields. THat is the best outcome moving forward.

all I can tell you about Carmelo, is that the Knicks and Nuggets are in big time talks, but the Nuggets are asking for WAY too much ... you can not give up an entire team, including the only players that play defense for one... maybe two players that do NOT play defense. Donnie Walsh is the pro, the expert, he will do the right thing for the Knicks. Remember, it's NOT over after the deadline, even if he signs the extention ... he can STILL be traded. Melo will be a Knick, if not next week, when the Knicks tip-off the 2011-12 season!

Elite wrote:from Tina Cervacio's facebook

all I can tell you about Carmelo, is that the Knicks and Nuggets are in big time talks, but the Nuggets are asking for WAY too much ... you can not give up an entire team, including the only players that play defense for one... maybe two players that do NOT play defense. Donnie Walsh is the pro, the expert, he will do the right thing for the Knicks. Remember, it's NOT over after the deadline, even if he signs the extention ... he can STILL be traded. Melo will be a Knick, if not next week, when the Knicks tip-off the 2011-12 season!

If he stays Denver can get the 2011 pick probably all of the 2012 picks and the randolph pick.

Frankly I would give them nothing and wait for FA. Why not free? Doesnt anyone want to play hardball if we can? Fck Denver i will give them sht.

That's it !! Any more than that I let them walk and take my chances!!

martin wrote:

Elite wrote:from Tina Cervacio's facebook

all I can tell you about Carmelo, is that the Knicks and Nuggets are in big time talks, but the Nuggets are asking for WAY too much ... you can not give up an entire team, including the only players that play defense for one... maybe two players that do NOT play defense. Donnie Walsh is the pro, the expert, he will do the right thing for the Knicks. Remember, it's NOT over after the deadline, even if he signs the extention ... he can STILL be traded. Melo will be a Knick, if not next week, when the Knicks tip-off the 2011-12 season!

TINA STALKER

Imagine the radiant glow Tina will have after Carmelo's first win as a New York Knick...

fishmike wrote:Lucky for us its Walsh and not Isiah.

There are advantages to getting Melo sooner than later. That being said Walsh knows the deal, as does Melo, Melo's agent and everyone else involved.

The Nets wont get involved because they have the most risk. Not only could he pass on resigning there after the Nets burn assests but if the Nets lost him to the Knicks it would be brutal beyond brutal... picture Jose Reyes signing with the Yanks because the Mets get cheap, then wins the MVP after batting 330, stealing 70 bases and scoring 140 runs and the Yanks win the world series.

Denver can play it cool all they want but as every hour and every tweet passes by its clearer and clearer Melo isnt staying, and thats a fact. They will NOT get value for him, because they dont have leverage. BUT they can get something for him.

I'm not including Gallo or Mosgov. Its just not going to happen. I'm open to taking Billups but its going to cost them.

I'm lowballing Denver left and right, but the two deals I'm willing to give the MOST up would look like this:

Curry, Fields, Chandler, AR, future first rounder for Melo
Curry, Felton, Chandler, AR, future first rounder for Melo + Billups

Those are GREAT offers. Getting Chandler (so what if you have to resign him) and Fields for a guy leaving anyway is a freakin coup.

I would even go so far as to tell Denver they have until 24 hours before the deadline because if Denver doesnt take the offer the Knicks plan on shopping Chandler for a pick to clear cap space for this summer to pursue max free agents (cough cough).

How does Denver walk away from that? Good trade for both teams under the circumstances.

I REALLY want to see a Felton/Melo/Gallo/Amare/Mosgov line up starting for a long time.

I think those 2 deals are what it comes down to for Donnie (not sure what the heck Dolan and co are doing or if they would interfere). The one big thing that most fail to mention is the cost savings Denver would get from this type of trade *IF* Twolves are involved and Denver is willing to move Curry, $3M, AR to Minnesota for perhaps low-level pick and non-significant player.

For the cost of keeping Fields, I would be in favor of second deal that moves out Felton for Billups and keeps the young gun.

I do think that Billups can be as good a pg as Felton. Our team speed would slow down, but with Anthony and Amare, we should be fairly effective in a half-court game. Plus, if the goal is to get Paul or Deron in two years, then keeping Felton is not a necessity.

Billups
Fields
Anthony
Amare
Timmy M.

with Gallo coming off the bench.

That is a contending team. I think that team is better than last year's denver team.

TheGame wrote:I would be hardpressed to give that much up for Lebron and he is a better player than Melo. If Melo was a lock down defender and a better passer, I still would not give up that much. Hell, if Mello was Michael Jordan, I would not give up that much. Denver must be smoking crack. They dragged their feet and lost out of the NJ deal. They are about to do the same with us. My best offer is Felton, Anthony, Chandler, Curry, $3 mill, 1st round pick, 2nd round pick, and maybe one of Azbueke or Walker or Douglas. This is the absolute most we could give up for Anthony and Billups.

I do think that Billups can be as good a pg as Felton. Our team speed would slow down, but with Anthony and Amare, we should be fairly effective in a half-court game. Plus, if the goal is to get Paul or Deron in two years, then keeping Felton is not a necessity.

Billups
Fields
Anthony
Amare
Timmy M.

with Gallo coming off the bench.

That is a contending team. I think that team is better than last year's denver team.

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