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OldFan
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2/6/2011  7:30 PM
Could do what he's AVERAGED over the last 4 games without the wild swings in effectiveness then he can really help this team.
Of course 23 pts 15 rebs follow by 4 pts and 1 reb the next ain't gonna do it. But if he can get close to these averages consistently...

MIN  FG    3P  FT   STL BLK TO  PF  OFF DEF TOT AST PTS 
27.0 15-26 0-0 9-12 0.0 1.3 1.0 3.5 3.0 4.5 7.5 0.3 9.8
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2/6/2011  11:49 PM
I thought he made a great impact in today's game, even though he only scored 3 points.

He seemed to grab some tough rebounds, for a change.

And his defense at times on Brand was huge.

It was nice to see us having players tower over the other team in the post, and make life difficult for their low post scorers.
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2/6/2011  11:55 PM
franco12 wrote:I thought he made a great impact in today's game, even though he only scored 3 points.

He seemed to grab some tough rebounds, for a change.

And his defense at times on Brand was huge.

It was nice to see us having players tower over the other team in the post, and make life difficult for their low post scorers.

I missed today's game. But I agree he does not have to score much to help us. He just needs to get some boards and help our interior defense.
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2/7/2011  4:12 AM
He does wonders for our defense. At the least he should take most of turiaf's minutes if not all of them.
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2/7/2011  6:25 AM
Even if he plays at 80% of what we need out of a true center, the biggest plus he gives us is that he allows Stoudemire to play PF and avoid the bigger injury risk. He keeps Stoudemire healthier.
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2/7/2011  6:34 AM
Moz for president!

He's a great, great bonus for this team going into the final stretch.

Hey, to all the MDA nayboobs, the people saying MDA doesn't know or doesn't want to develop young players, what's up? WHAT'S UP BRO!??!

Second season in a row a rookie baller sat for the first few months, was developed behind the scenes, and came on to drop the buckets, SWAT THE BASKETBALL BALLS, ROCK THE HOUSE in the second half of the year.

WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
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2/7/2011  8:16 AM

He does change the game. He is learning to not make a defensive play on lost causes. He'll foul out even faster. He got two bad calls on him yesterday. Even when he does not get a rebound he gets his hand on the ball creating "team" rebounds.

More important he makes the game much easier for Stat.

Stat looks small compared to him. The Moz is a massive human.
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2/7/2011  9:33 AM
Its Melo this Melo that but the key to our team right now it Mosgov. Turiaf hurt again (always is) and Mos is giving big minutes and big results. Size can impact a game, but QUALITY size can change the game and what Mos is giving is quality size.

Mos is a massive dude and physically gifted. That dunk on the fast break from the Felton feed was unreal the other night. Thunderous.

Mos is quickly reaching the untouchable zone. 7'1 skilled athletic center? Yea... keeping that

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2/7/2011  9:52 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/7/2011  10:03 AM
I don't care if moz Gets 0 pts per game as long as he rebounds and plays smart D.

i hope they take time to mold this kid. he's athletic and moves well for a center and he fits well into D'Antoni's system—meaning a center that can keep up with the pace of the offense.
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2/7/2011  10:27 AM
SlimChin wrote:I don't care if moz Gets 0 pts per game as long as he rebounds and plays smart D.

i hope they take time to mold this kid. he's athletic and moves well for a center and he fits well into D'Antoni's system—meaning a center that can keep up with the pace of the offense.


he adds a ton of motion to the offense without the ball. He's ultra active away from the ball, he sets tons of picks and screen and seems to do that very well. His size and quickness make him ideal for that and he seems to excel there. He needs a finishing move around the basket that isnt a dunk. Something he can use to draw contact with and still finish. Maybe a finger roll or just use the glass better.

The most promising thing about him is his work ethic. All you hear and read about his how hard he works. Everyone that sniffs the NBA oozes talent, the guys the work the hardest become good players. I sounds like nobody on the team works harder than Mos. Combine that with a good skill set and 7'1 athletic guy and you have a real diamond in the rough here.

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2/7/2011  10:44 AM
fishmike wrote:
SlimChin wrote:I don't care if moz Gets 0 pts per game as long as he rebounds and plays smart D.

i hope they take time to mold this kid. he's athletic and moves well for a center and he fits well into D'Antoni's system—meaning a center that can keep up with the pace of the offense.


he adds a ton of motion to the offense without the ball. He's ultra active away from the ball, he sets tons of picks and screen and seems to do that very well. His size and quickness make him ideal for that and he seems to excel there. He needs a finishing move around the basket that isnt a dunk. Something he can use to draw contact with and still finish. Maybe a finger roll or just use the glass better.

The most promising thing about him is his work ethic. All you hear and read about his how hard he works. Everyone that sniffs the NBA oozes talent, the guys the work the hardest become good players. I sounds like nobody on the team works harder than Mos. Combine that with a good skill set and 7'1 athletic guy and you have a real diamond in the rough here.

i've seen him hit some turn-around jumpers too...
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2/7/2011  10:52 AM
Was at the game and I agree that despite the box score, he did exactly what we need him to do. Rebound contest shots and help Amare in the paint. Brand was killing us all game hitting his 7-8 footers on the baseline, but I did like the way Moz played. He hit one shot but looks hesitant to take that 10 ft jumper when it is open which he can definitely hit. That will come as he gets more experience. Hopefully he can be a big part in our playoff push.
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2/7/2011  12:21 PM
orangeblobman wrote:the people saying MDA doesn't know or doesn't want to develop young players, what's up? WHAT'S UP BRO!??!

Second season in a row a rookie baller sat for the first few months, was developed behind the scenes, and came on to drop the buckets, SWAT THE BASKETBALL BALLS, ROCK THE HOUSE in the second half of the year.


Either that or the team f'd up by benching him for so long and a huge break fell in their laps when we had multiple injuries and a suspension at the same time. I'd have more confidence that your interpretation was right rather than just generous if the team had willfully chosen to play him rather than being forced to.
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2/7/2011  2:11 PM
he owned Brand a few times. There was a garbage foul called on Moz when in reality he forced Brand to put up an atrocious air ball
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2/7/2011  2:37 PM
I think 11-8 can be legit.


We need reinforcements this offseason upfront.

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2/7/2011  2:37 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:the people saying MDA doesn't know or doesn't want to develop young players, what's up? WHAT'S UP BRO!??!

Second season in a row a rookie baller sat for the first few months, was developed behind the scenes, and came on to drop the buckets, SWAT THE BASKETBALL BALLS, ROCK THE HOUSE in the second half of the year.


Either that or the team f'd up by benching him for so long and a huge break fell in their laps when we had multiple injuries and a suspension at the same time. I'd have more confidence that your interpretation was right rather than just generous if the team had willfully chosen to play him rather than being forced to.

We know that the staff was continuing to work with Moz and MDA was already talking about bringing him back. Also you have the same evidence with Williams working hard and getting a chance. Landry got a shot last year for the same reasons. MDA's methods are very predictable and fully understandable. He's a consistent guy when it comes to young guys working hard and eventually getting a shot. All of these guys needed development and it's too simplistic to assume that they were always ready to perform at the right level and just needed to play. The evidence suggests that they needed to work on their games and the guys that put in work seem to get back into the mix and produce. This nonsense about MDA needs to stop. It's been proven to be wrong so many times now that it's not even an argument anymore. His method has proven to be sound, whether people like it or not.
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2/7/2011  3:18 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:the people saying MDA doesn't know or doesn't want to develop young players, what's up? WHAT'S UP BRO!??!

Second season in a row a rookie baller sat for the first few months, was developed behind the scenes, and came on to drop the buckets, SWAT THE BASKETBALL BALLS, ROCK THE HOUSE in the second half of the year.


Either that or the team f'd up by benching him for so long and a huge break fell in their laps when we had multiple injuries and a suspension at the same time. I'd have more confidence that your interpretation was right rather than just generous if the team had willfully chosen to play him rather than being forced to.

He still improved behind the curtains, and that's key.

WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
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2/7/2011  4:03 PM
Good thing Chandler got hurt and we run a short rotation. Also in case you haven't been following we are pretty much a .500 team. I would think that a great coach would have this team a bit better. The flaws of his coaching ere covered up on the Suns by their sheer talent but give D'Antoni a good and not championship caliber team with 3 all stars and this is what you'll get.

orangeblobman wrote:Moz for president!

He's a great, great bonus for this team going into the final stretch.

Hey, to all the MDA nayboobs, the people saying MDA doesn't know or doesn't want to develop young players, what's up? WHAT'S UP BRO!??!

Second season in a row a rookie baller sat for the first few months, was developed behind the scenes, and came on to drop the buckets, SWAT THE BASKETBALL BALLS, ROCK THE HOUSE in the second half of the year.
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2/7/2011  4:25 PM
nykshaknbake wrote:Good thing Chandler got hurt and we run a short rotation. Also in case you haven't been following we are pretty much a .500 team. I would think that a great coach would have this team a bit better. The flaws of his coaching ere covered up on the Suns by their sheer talent but give D'Antoni a good and not championship caliber team with 3 all stars and this is what you'll get.

orangeblobman wrote:Moz for president!

He's a great, great bonus for this team going into the final stretch.

Hey, to all the MDA nayboobs, the people saying MDA doesn't know or doesn't want to develop young players, what's up? WHAT'S UP BRO!??!

Second season in a row a rookie baller sat for the first few months, was developed behind the scenes, and came on to drop the buckets, SWAT THE BASKETBALL BALLS, ROCK THE HOUSE in the second half of the year.

Name the great coaches that have won a ton of games with no talent. Because that's the mark of a great coach, right? to win without talent?

WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
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2/7/2011  4:36 PM
Moz is a work in progress and his offense is not up to speed.

Im going to guess that his foot work on defense and rebounding has to have been a priority. They run few plays for him on offense and he is prone to getting the ball stripped. He can't see the blind side defender coming and does no know how to protect the ball in anticipation. This is not an easy feat by any means. He needs to watch 100 hours of Rik Smits tapes to get that skill down.

If the defense does not guard him he gets his easy points.

He is a work in progress on most nites. He does so much on the glass that does not show up on the box score.
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