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knicks1248
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2/3/2011  11:18 PM
KG and Rondo miss close to a month of the first three months of the season, and the coaches selected these guys to be all stars, there #s aren't even that great, chris bosh who didn't start balling to recently was selected.

More then half the all stars players (7) in the east are from 2 teams..wow

Does anybody else think thats a little ridiculous...

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2/3/2011  11:21 PM
No, I don't think it is. A 25-22 team should not have two All-Stars.
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2/3/2011  11:43 PM
orangeblobman wrote:No, I don't think it is. A 25-22 team should not have two All-Stars.

It sucks cause blakes team has no shot at the playoffs, yet he was pick, not saying that Felton really derserves the nod, but come on, im gonna watch miami and boston take on the west all stars.

The east is so weak, that our 25-22 record would make us a lottery team in the west. The east All stars are made up of players from 4 teams, and amare.

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2/3/2011  11:53 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:No, I don't think it is. A 25-22 team should not have two All-Stars.

It sucks cause blakes team has no shot at the playoffs, yet he was pick, not saying that Felton really derserves the nod, but come on, im gonna watch miami and boston take on the west all stars.

The east is so weak, that our 25-22 record would make us a lottery team in the west. The east All stars are made up of players from 4 teams, and amare.

I hear ya, man. It's just that that's where the power is, or where the power is perceived to be because of, in Boston's case, the recent run of successful seasons, and in Miami's case, the merging of three big name players to form a terrifying trifecta, widely held to be an instant contender on par with Boston and Los Angeles.

And Blake is the only pick from the Clippers, I doubt they could get two because the team just isn't worth two.

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2/4/2011  1:54 AM
Better for the Knicks that Felton gets the time off-he can use the rest to heal his body.

The "honor" is not as important as the team's success.

If this matters to him, he might play harder/more determined ball the second half, and we benefit from that.

To be honest, Amare could also use some added days to heal.

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2/4/2011  2:57 AM
I think it would have been a bad message to select Felton to the all-star team. (Yes, I'm agreeing with Orangeblobman ) His play has fallen off drastically and all the while his confidence has been high. Had he made the team, perhaps he would have even started shooting more.

Hopefully this is motivation for him to perform better.

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2/4/2011  7:52 AM
Boozer was the biggest snub in the east. He belonged on the team ahead of Bosh, Garnett, and Allen.
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2/4/2011  7:55 AM
Felton not making it came right down to our record. Had we been at 30 wins, he would have made it. Next year if we have Melo and are having a great season, i think he will make it. His PPG will drop, but his assets and overall efficiency will go up.
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2/4/2011  7:58 AM
Rondo deserves to go... I agree with that
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2/4/2011  8:03 AM
It sucks that Griffin is an All-Star? 23pts 13rbs 3.6ass. He might be the best powerforward in the entire league right now. He is playing on the Clippers.

Felton isn't even close. He has been terrible the past month and has not been the same player he was early in the season.

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2/4/2011  8:05 AM
Knixkik wrote:Felton not making it came right down to our record. Had we been at 30 wins, he would have made it. Next year if we have Melo and are having a great season, i think he will make it. His PPG will drop, but his assets and overall efficiency will go up.

I don't think it had as much to do with our record, as it did with his really poor play of late.

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2/4/2011  9:36 AM
franco12 wrote:
Knixkik wrote:Felton not making it came right down to our record. Had we been at 30 wins, he would have made it. Next year if we have Melo and are having a great season, i think he will make it. His PPG will drop, but his assets and overall efficiency will go up.

I don't think it had as much to do with our record, as it did with his really poor play of late.

Ok, how about i'll meet you half way? Our record getting worse is related to his play getting worse

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2/4/2011  9:38 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/4/2011  9:40 AM
orangeblobman wrote:No, I don't think it is. A 25-22 team should not have two All-Stars.

I think it based on his stats and performance thus far. Barring the "getting to kow you" period and his recent slump, he's been one of the top points in the east this year. They've lost six games by five or less points that if they'd won a few of those, regardless of whether Felton's stats were any better, he'd be in. And another five games were lost by 6-8 points, so if teams fortunes were better and you added a pair of those (again, the same stats) and he's in. Yes I get your point about their record, but great players on crappy teams make the All-Star games in every sport. Felton is a great player right now and the Knicks are far from crappy. The Celtics were given way too much love by the voters for the reserves. Great team and players, but the reserves shouldn't automatically default to the previous year's conference champions.

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2/4/2011  11:14 AM
ramtour420 wrote:
franco12 wrote:
Knixkik wrote:Felton not making it came right down to our record. Had we been at 30 wins, he would have made it. Next year if we have Melo and are having a great season, i think he will make it. His PPG will drop, but his assets and overall efficiency will go up.

I don't think it had as much to do with our record, as it did with his really poor play of late.

Ok, how about i'll meet you half way? Our record getting worse is related to his play getting worse

Exactly. There aren't many .500 teams (which is all we are) with two all-stars. If he was playing like he did in the first month of the season, we'd be a .600 team and he'd be an all-star.

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2/4/2011  11:16 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
ramtour420 wrote:
franco12 wrote:
Knixkik wrote:Felton not making it came right down to our record. Had we been at 30 wins, he would have made it. Next year if we have Melo and are having a great season, i think he will make it. His PPG will drop, but his assets and overall efficiency will go up.

I don't think it had as much to do with our record, as it did with his really poor play of late.

Ok, how about i'll meet you half way? Our record getting worse is related to his play getting worse

Exactly. There aren't many .500 teams (which is all we are) with two all-stars. If he was playing like he did in the first month of the season, we'd be a .600 team and he'd be an all-star.

To be fair, he's just been 1 in 12 parts, b/c we have had issues from every player including Amar'e.... and Fields too, but he's a rookie so he's bound to make mistakes.

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2/4/2011  11:17 AM
I feel bad for Ray--you know he probably wanted to go & he was probably very much in the conversation but the fact remains that his play tailed off some the past month or so and that most likely killed his chances..Hopefully he sees the situation for what it is: an opportunity to rest up (looks like he needs it) and then uses the snub as motivation to have a big-time 2nd half..I think Ray Felton is a very good player, probably our best PG since Derek Harper. The team is still one major piece away from really competing in this league...If we could somehow land Anthony w/o gutting the entire team, Amar'e, Ray & Melo would make for one hell of a top 3 that could compete with any team in the game...I have no problem extending Ray beyond next season. We found our starting PG..
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2/4/2011  11:35 AM
Finestrg wrote:I feel bad for Ray--you know he probably wanted to go & he was probably very much in the conversation but the fact remains that his play tailed off some the past month or so and that most likely killed his chances..Hopefully he sees the situation for what it is: an opportunity to rest up (looks like he needs it) and then uses the snub as motivation to have a big-time 2nd half..I think Ray Felton is a very good player, probably our best PG since Derek Harper. The team is still one major piece away from really competing in this league...If we could somehow land Anthony w/o gutting the entire team, Amar'e, Ray & Melo would make for one hell of a top 3 that could compete with any team in the game...I have no problem extending Ray beyond next season. We found our starting PG..

The funny thing is he doesn't even have to be an all star. When you think of it, he exceeded ALL of our expectations. Heck, he tailed off, but unlike what another poster in this thread said (Calling his play terrible), he's been playing pretty good. Just not fantastic like he was earlier. The guy needs to rest mentally and physically and hopefully he will be good to go.

I hope we keep him too.

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2/4/2011  12:07 PM
after a terrible start in november felton avg in December -- 17.8 points, 10.2 assists in 13 games, shooting 41.4 percent from field and 33.3 from three-point range -- in January he averaged 15.5 points, 8.7 assists and shot just 37.3 percent from the field and 29 percent from downtown in 15 games.... would like to see his pts per game continue go down but his assists go up...if he continues to be our #2 option we are in trouble it needs to be gallo #2 and wilson #3 or vice versa he needs to think pass pass pass shot...his mentality over the next 30 games will be the our success or failure as a team
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2/4/2011  12:27 PM
Allanfan20 wrote:
Finestrg wrote:I feel bad for Ray--you know he probably wanted to go & he was probably very much in the conversation but the fact remains that his play tailed off some the past month or so and that most likely killed his chances..Hopefully he sees the situation for what it is: an opportunity to rest up (looks like he needs it) and then uses the snub as motivation to have a big-time 2nd half..I think Ray Felton is a very good player, probably our best PG since Derek Harper. The team is still one major piece away from really competing in this league...If we could somehow land Anthony w/o gutting the entire team, Amar'e, Ray & Melo would make for one hell of a top 3 that could compete with any team in the game...I have no problem extending Ray beyond next season. We found our starting PG..

The funny thing is he doesn't even have to be an all star. When you think of it, he exceeded ALL of our expectations. Heck, he tailed off, but unlike what another poster in this thread said (Calling his play terrible), he's been playing pretty good. Just not fantastic like he was earlier. The guy needs to rest mentally and physically and hopefully he will be good to go.

I hope we keep him too.

I think he's already earned staying. Just for discussion's sake, let's say the Knicks can get Melo, and have enough capsapce for a third big fish.

Amar'e
Melo
Paul/Williams

or

Amar'e
Melo
Felton
and a Stephen Jackson/Anderson Varejao/Ben Gordon/Tayshaun Prince/Andris Biedrins/Luis Scola/Shane Battier/Lamar Odom/Ron Artest/John Salmons/JJ Reddick/Josh Childress/Marcin Gortat/Joel Pryzbilla/Andrea Bargnani/Mehmet Okur/Paul Millsap type of player?

I think I prefer the second option. (Anubis, pay attention:) I'm not saying all the players listed above will be made available, but just examples of the type of player you could get with the remaining capspace. Two scoring threats and two A-list support players would be a harder matchup for most teams IMHO.

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2/4/2011  12:33 PM
much rather first option...you win in the nba with stars...take those 3 and fill in rest of team...others would want to come and be role players just like boston has done and to a lesser extent miami has done to this point
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