BRIGGS wrote:Looks like a great young core of players. Id like to see somehow if we could expand what Randolph did out there--but there is a numbers game that will likely prevent it. Only way Randolph gets run is if Amare takes a game off.

You're not fooling anyone.

BRIGGS wrote:

iSergio wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Looks like a great young core of players. Id like to see somehow if we could expand what Randolph did out there--but there is a numbers game that will likely prevent it. Only way Randolph gets run is if Amare takes a game off.

You're not fooling anyone.

I know you want Melo but no reason to be an obnoxious twit about it--you are certainly good at it.

Nothing to do with Carmelo Anthony but your act was exposed a long time ago - preferring young unproven players no matter how much they suck over Star veterans. You didn't even want Amar'e Stoudemire or any of the Star FA's here last summer.

Second is that both Chandler and Gallo have improved and continue to do so and Felton is the 3rd best point in the league.

And of course top 3 rookie Lando is a huge suprise.

If we were just starphuching then Amare by himself would not be as effective.

Rebuilding take time and patience. GIving up young good players is a fine line when you trade for a Melo type player.

YOu either starphuch and keep trying to improve quickly or build it right.

IM not sure how good we'd be if We did get Lebron and bosh. If that happend we would not have the Rainman at the point. or a 7-1 russian athletic freak in Moz. Or Turiaf, AR (a tradable player for a pick) or Bukke' who might contribute.

The whole thing would be different!

Talk around the league is AMare has suprised a lot of people. Why would briggs be different? Are we not all pleasently suprised?

Maybe Briggs was concerned about the 100mil contract. Its been half a season. If amare goes down or becomes chronically hurt its an albatross.

My hope is that coachs have broken him down and rebuilding him into a better player. If he is sulking then he ruins his career.

He is very athletic and he needs to slow it down and let the game come to him. Less mistakes and get into the flow.

martin wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Looks like a great young core of players. Id like to see somehow if we could expand what Randolph did out there--but there is a numbers game that will likely prevent it. Only way Randolph gets run is if Amare takes a game off.

I tell you what... Moz, Gallo, Fields, Williams. I would add Chandler and TD to that list. I know TD has not been as impressive, but his toughness for playing through the shoulder injuries is not something we should discount, and I am sure MDA has rewarded TD with minutes even despite his struggles at running the PG position be cause of it.

Donnie has paved the groundwork for a team that can grow over the next 5-10 years.

I would love for the Knicks to be able to keep AR - if his scant 8 minutes were any type of determinant on how he could play on this team. The ability to bring in a 7 footer with the length and quickness he has can change the flow of a game ala Camby circa 1999.

Melo would take this team to a new level. But so would having him AND a bench that included the likes of our youth.

DONNIE, GET IT DONE

I'm happy you included TD in this grouping. He always plays with tremendous heart and exemplifies that cold blooded assasin that we want on our side. Only TD knows to what extent his injuries are limiting his accuracy, but his heart can never be questioned. I look forward to his third season, fully healed. When team mates talk about the hardest working players, Amar'e and STAT are always named.

Sangfroid wrote:

martin wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Looks like a great young core of players. Id like to see somehow if we could expand what Randolph did out there--but there is a numbers game that will likely prevent it. Only way Randolph gets run is if Amare takes a game off.

I tell you what... Moz, Gallo, Fields, Williams. I would add Chandler and TD to that list. I know TD has not been as impressive, but his toughness for playing through the shoulder injuries is not something we should discount, and I am sure MDA has rewarded TD with minutes even despite his struggles at running the PG position be cause of it.

Donnie has paved the groundwork for a team that can grow over the next 5-10 years.

I would love for the Knicks to be able to keep AR - if his scant 8 minutes were any type of determinant on how he could play on this team. The ability to bring in a 7 footer with the length and quickness he has can change the flow of a game ala Camby circa 1999.

Melo would take this team to a new level. But so would having him AND a bench that included the likes of our youth.

DONNIE, GET IT DONE

I'm happy you included TD in this grouping. He always plays with tremendous heart and exemplifies that cold blooded assasin that we want on our side. Only TD knows to what extent his injuries are limiting his accuracy, but his heart can never be questioned. I look forward to his third season, fully healed. When team mates talk about the hardest working players, Amar'e and STAT are always named.

Did you mean Amare/Stat (since they one and the same)?

This is the key point (afaic): We want a contender, so we only trade away the players we MUST renounce in order to sign Melo as a FA.

We should trade Chandler to Minny for the rights to Rubio. Maybe throw in Buke's expiring/paid deal to sweeten the flava for that poseur Kahn. Then we trade Turiaf to Orlando for a pick or two. He would be great help to them THIS year for their chip run. I think AR is cheap enough that Melo may prefer we keep him and snip some spare change from his max deal. Or we trade him for a top-3 protected 1st rounder from a bad team (even maybe NJ).

Melo as FA could mean...

Felton/Rubio/TD
Fields/Walker/TD
Melo/Gallo/Williams
Stat/Gallo/Williams
Mozgov/Stat/Our rookie from last draft? Earl Barron on vet min?

That's ten guys who can all contribute... a long rotation for MDA, but that would help us stay fit/healthy for the post-season, and give us foul depth and different looks against playoff competition.

What do you say, fellas? That's a solid roster if I ever saw one, particularly in light of what we now know about the Moz (which I always suspected was there). He's our beast with the sweet stroke.

tkf wrote:

Nalod wrote:
My hope with AR is that we keep him and his potential is realized. That would be fun.

My hope is that coachs have broken him down and rebuilding him into a better player. If he is sulking then he ruins his career.

He is very athletic and he needs to slow it down and let the game come to him. Less mistakes and get into the flow.

AR needs to start from square one... Scoring will come. He should establish an identity, and he can easily do that.. Come in and be a rebounding and shot blocking monster.. in 10-15 mpg he can easily scoop up 6-10 boards and block a few shots.. do that and he will see increased playing time and his confidence will grow.. then he can build off of that. I like this kid...

Instead of trying to be the next Odom, he should look at some old Pistons tapes and watch how Rodman and Salley played and just mimic them. He can potentially be a defensive and rebounding jumping jack.

LivingLegend wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Looks like a great young core of players. Id like to see somehow if we could expand what Randolph did out there--but there is a numbers game that will likely prevent it. Only way Randolph gets run is if Amare takes a game off.

Briggs just fooling with you but didn't you already trade off Moz, Gallo, Randolph and Fields for the likes of Carl Landry and Jason Thompson?

Just pointing out the fact that your assessment of the roster changes by the minute, quarter, game and by the day.

Sign of an active mind/imagination, both solid qualities to possess when building for the future.

Felton cracks the top 10 in pgs he no where near the top 3. We should use chandler and walker to really get a strong backup

NYKBocker wrote:

tkf wrote:

Nalod wrote:
My hope with AR is that we keep him and his potential is realized. That would be fun.

My hope is that coachs have broken him down and rebuilding him into a better player. If he is sulking then he ruins his career.

He is very athletic and he needs to slow it down and let the game come to him. Less mistakes and get into the flow.

AR needs to start from square one... Scoring will come. He should establish an identity, and he can easily do that.. Come in and be a rebounding and shot blocking monster.. in 10-15 mpg he can easily scoop up 6-10 boards and block a few shots.. do that and he will see increased playing time and his confidence will grow.. then he can build off of that. I like this kid...

Instead of trying to be the next Odom, he should look at some old Pistons tapes and watch how Rodman and Salley played and just mimic them. He can potentially be a defensive and rebounding jumping jack.

a player that put up these kinds of statlines doesn't need to be "broken down" & made into a better player... he just needs to be given consistent opportunity to play the game he already knows how to play at a high level.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/gamelog?playerId=3455&year=2010