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Just Another Case Of The Man Holding A Mozgov Back
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misterearl
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1/31/2011  8:17 AM
- Looks tentative on the boards.
- Missed easy layup!
- On pick & roll, left Gordon wide open for a three.
- On a fast break, let a pass from Toney Douglas go out of bounds.
- Failed to get the ball to a wide open Anthony Randolph under the hoop (pass was deflected).
- Gave away easy in-bound pass for 2 points.
- Alley-oop went right off his hands. Luckily Amar’e recovers it for an easy stuff.

and this, also according to Mike Kurylo, (knickerbloggger.net) "Given how good his line was, I’m not sure what of that is sustainable"

What the picky Kurylo fails to cite is that when Mozgov sneezes another constellation is formed.

Mozgov also has the eyes of your favorite Labrador retriever. Sincere and honest. He will give you effort all day and every day.

He is forever the most interesting Knicks player in the world

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1/31/2011  8:31 AM
No, its not a straight line of sustainable play from this moment on. Same with Gallo and Chandler for the last two years and going forward.

Against Miami Gallo had a "reference" moment of success in a big game. Last nite Mozzy Bear got a taste of it and now knows he CAN do it in a game. He will get dumb fouls lose his cool and get yanked. It will happen. Its part of growth.

If it happens less and less its called progress.

I thought Gallo last nite was great also. He is getting better all the time.

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1/31/2011  8:56 AM
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With 29 points on only 12 shots Gallinari was brilliantly effective

His added confidence is influenced by the heart and soul of the Knicks, Amare Stoudemire.

There is no question that Amare demonstrates more leadership ability than any player available last Summer.

His encouragement of Mozgov, with a simple pat of the chest, made the young visitor feel welcome. The Garden crowd did the rest.

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1/31/2011  9:01 AM
Good point about Amare's leadership. When we signed him, I had no idea we could expect that from him.
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1/31/2011  9:14 AM
Nalod wrote:No, its not a straight line of sustainable play from this moment on. Same with Gallo and Chandler for the last two years and going forward.

Against Miami Gallo had a "reference" moment of success in a big game. Last nite Mozzy Bear got a taste of it and now knows he CAN do it in a game. He will get dumb fouls lose his cool and get yanked. It will happen. Its part of growth.

If it happens less and less its called progress.

I thought Gallo last nite was great also. He is getting better all the time.


Gallo has been taking it to the rim with a vengeance lately. He would drive the ball to the hoop in the past, but it would always seems like he was fishing for contact and not looking to score. Now, he's looking to slam the ball in every time he goes inside. It's the one good change that's happened in his game since the slump earlier this year.

As for Timo, the Piston were the perfect team for him to gain confidence against due to their lack of size. Hopefully he can build on it, cuz we can sure use him against Dallas's frontline on Wednesday.

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1/31/2011  4:23 PM
I'm always curious about how quickly the New York media loves to throw Wilson Chandler under the Bus after Gallinari has ONE decent game. There is a real agenda for the Media to have Danilo succeed and Chandler fail; especially since Chandler has had a great season while Gallinari plays hard every 5th or 6th Game. Chandler's numbers are better across the board, but I never see him for post game court interviews, or stories about how he is bounced around the lineup. Interesting how Gallo can have a lousy stretch but in never asked to come off the bench. Now Mozgov is the savior of the Knicks and decreases Chandlers value after one good game in 47?. If i didn't know better i would think there is a significant Bias at work here.

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1/31/2011  4:25 PM
misterearl wrote:I'm always curious about how quickly the New York media loves to throw Wilson Chandler under the Bus after Gallinari has ONE decent game. There is a real agenda for the Media to have Danilo succeed and Chandler fail; especially since Chandler has had a great season while Gallinari plays hard every 5th or 6th Game. Chandler's numbers are better across the board, but I never see him for post game court interviews, or stories about how he is bounced around the lineup. Interesting how Gallo can have a lousy stretch but in never asked to come off the bench. Now Mozgov is the savior of the Knicks and decreases Chandlers value after one good game in 47?. If i didn't know better i would think there is a significant Bias at work here.

- steve KnicksVision

Yea, and that Bias is in Steve's head and it's against Gallinari.

It's funny how some people mold reality to fit their agenda.

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1/31/2011  4:34 PM
Earl do you agree with Steve's (no affiliation to KnicksVision) comment?
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1/31/2011  4:44 PM
The bias is the flavor of the week with the media.

When Gallo sat chandler stood up for a few games and the media was all over it lamenting that Walsh should have signed him before the season. Isiah was heralded as a genius in exile and his "Athletic" dunks made him epic.

And fans loved it!

Gallo hung some big shots on national TV friday nite and beat the Heat. Big game.

Mozgovs story of being a little know player to starter (early) for the the most valuable basketball team in on the planet is big. If he came froma small village would it be any less? Likely more!!

What is wilsons reputation? Quiet man on and off the court. What is he famous for? Lots of players have Tatoos. AMare is covered pretty good. Media loves Amare. anyone even mention his week bust. Nope.

The fact he is Italian seems to really bother some folks. Guess what, He is becoming a big deal in his country. Just like Turiaf is in france. Turiaf also gets good press because he is an extrovert off the court and is all over the place. He enjoys his celeberty. Wilson seems to keep a low profile. So what, its his preference.

Listen to out of town broadcasts during his scoring streak and he got lots of kudos with those anouncers.

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1/31/2011  5:04 PM
Italian Mafia...
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1/31/2011  5:31 PM
Ira wrote:Good point about Amare's leadership. When we signed him, I had no idea we could expect that from him.
I totally agree. His leadership has had a huge impact on the team.
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1/31/2011  5:38 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
Ira wrote:Good point about Amare's leadership. When we signed him, I had no idea we could expect that from him.
I totally agree. His leadership has had a huge impact on the team.

Also helps that we're finally rid of all the problem children... or almost.

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1/31/2011  6:03 PM
Panos wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Ira wrote:Good point about Amare's leadership. When we signed him, I had no idea we could expect that from him.
I totally agree. His leadership has had a huge impact on the team.

Also helps that we're finally rid of all the problem children... or almost.

I've always defended Mike's desire to get rid of problem players and when you have a team full of smart and team oriented players you can see the difference. It's all about BB and not drama. That's the reason. It's not about being afraid to deal with high maintenance guys. It's about everything being about BB and only about BB. Teams that have lots of players with behavior issues have to always deal with that and it's a distraction. I know that there have been teams that won despite having problem children, but I prefer a team full of adults and professionals.

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1/31/2011  6:30 PM
Panos wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Ira wrote:Good point about Amare's leadership. When we signed him, I had no idea we could expect that from him.
I totally agree. His leadership has had a huge impact on the team.

Also helps that we're finally rid of all the problem children... or almost.

wow I’ve totally forgotten about him. kudos all the way around for not making him a distraction this year.

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1/31/2011  7:18 PM
misterearl wrote:I'm always curious about how quickly the New York media loves to throw Wilson Chandler under the Bus after Gallinari has ONE decent game.

How does MDA not treat the son of his very good friend in Italy better than someone that he has a strictly professional coach/player relationships with? Plus it appears more likely that Mike has a better chance of continuing his professional and personal relationships with Gallo, at least partly because of Wilson's higher cap hold for the upcoming season. Perhaps there are other reasons as well.... . So I don't think the media itself is fully to blame. Mike D'Antoni is the guy they most frequently interview, so it seems logical that some of his prejudices become theirs. Also many fans have only short term memory so what you have done for us lately seems like it has much too much emphasis. Finally perhaps being an Italian in NYC, allows Gallo's nationality to helps MSG sell a few more seats than what Wilson Chandler sells.

I personally think Gallo has the head room to get better from here. Specifically, I think he still has room as an athlete to continue get stronger and jump higher. That improvement will help both his defense and his offense. No question that Chandler is an exceptional athlete. I'm not sure however if physically he has another level to get to. (His current level is so high already.) What do you think?

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1/31/2011  8:45 PM
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misterearl wrote:I'm always curious about how quickly the New York media loves to throw Wilson Chandler under the Bus after Gallinari has ONE decent game.

How does MDA not treat the son of his very good friend in Italy better than someone that he has a strictly professional coach/player relationships with? Plus it appears more likely that Mike has a better chance of continuing his professional and personal relationships with Gallo, at least partly because of Wilson's higher cap hold for the upcoming season. Perhaps there are other reasons as well.... . So I don't think the media itself is fully to blame. Mike D'Antoni is the guy they most frequently interview, so it seems logical that some of his prejudices become theirs. Also many fans have only short term memory so what you have done for us lately seems like it has much too much emphasis. Finally perhaps being an Italian in NYC, allows Gallo's nationality to helps MSG sell a few more seats than what Wilson Chandler sells.

I personally think Gallo has the head room to get better from here. Specifically, I think he still has room as an athlete to continue get stronger and jump higher. That improvement will help both his defense and his offense. No question that Chandler is an exceptional athlete. I'm not sure however if physically he has another level to get to. (His current level is so high already.) What do you think?

I enjoy completely the progress that both players are making and the energy that they bring to the team. The problem at hand is that Melo, a superior player to either offensively is clamouring to come to MSG. As much as I would like to keep both guys and make room for Melo, the numbers say that it won't happen. It's one of those good problems to have, but a problem all the same.

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2/1/2011  10:25 AM
"It's funny how some people mold reality to fit their agenda."

orangeblobman - there is no such thing as "molding reality"

rvwink makes numerous salient points on perception and production. They should be read carefully.

The reality is the Knicks ahve more invested in Gallinari than Chandler, for reasons of his personal relationship to D'Antoni, the high draft selection and the marketing possibilities to the Italian American community. Gallo is already featured in the NBA promotional campaign on the bus with VanGundy and Mark Jackson. In New York that equals dollars.

The reality is that until Chandlers recent slippage due to injury (or distraction) he has been one of the three most productive and consistent Knicks.

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2/1/2011  10:29 AM
Gallinari is a better player and he is more personable. So he gets more coverage. Anything else is fishing.

I said this in an earlier thread, but I say it again- Chandler is a dull man, he is boring. Let's not fish, that race thing is played out.

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2/1/2011  10:30 AM
I'm looking for the articles where Chandler was thrown under the bus. Please help.
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2/1/2011  10:32 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/1/2011  10:32 AM
Andrew wrote:I'm looking for the articles where Chandler was thrown under the bus. Please help.

You won't find any. What you will be able to find is a ton of threads throwing Gallinari under the bus when he was injured, saying that he is not needed. No one has been throwing Chandler under the bus since he has been injured. So I think that is telling.

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