umynot wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Ill tell you--put him next to Amare and we are viscous. I don't thi9nk we are getting melo until FA--but there is no reason we cant do a deal for SD.

I like Jordan better

Bonn1997 wrote:

umynot wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

umynot wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Ill tell you--put him next to Amare and we are viscous. I don't thi9nk we are getting melo until FA--but there is no reason we cant do a deal for SD.

I like Jordan better

Jordan isn't getting traded. He is Blake's guy. The Dalembert Hawes trade did not work out for either team. Dalembert is available and probably at a bargain price.

I keep hearing that Jordan is Griffen's friend and they have a strong bond but as long as Sterling owns that
team I say Jordan is more available then we think.

That being said I agree we need a big man but we need to give back at least 7 million in contracts back to
Fit Dal under cap.

7 million means at the min Buki and Chandler so I say no thanks!!

Dalembert expires after this season according to Hoopshype. He shouldn't affect our cap.

BRIGGS wrote:I look at it this way--we need another quality big man. It could be the difference in being a team that not only makes the playoffs but can seriously compete with anyone and actually NOT making the playoffs all together. I maintain its not the points but the defense--also another quality big means better balance of inside outside offense.

I agree that we do need another bigman. Hopefully Timo steps up to the point where he can give us minutes and give STAT a breather. That said, Dalembert isn't going to instantly transform us into a title contender. He's not going to bring us to the level needed to compete with Orlando, Chicago, Miami and Boston. There's no need to get him now. We can look at Dalembert as an option during free agency if Melo falls through.

BigDaddyG wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I look at it this way--we need another quality big man. It could be the difference in being a team that not only makes the playoffs but can seriously compete with anyone and actually NOT making the playoffs all together. I maintain its not the points but the defense--also another quality big means better balance of inside outside offense.

I agree that we do need another bigman. Hopefully Timo steps up to the point where he can give us minutes and give STAT a breather. That said, Dalembert isn't going to instantly transform us into a title contender. He's not going to bring us to the level needed to compete with Orlando, Chicago, Miami and Boston. There's no need to get him now. We can look at Dalembert as an option during free agency if Melo falls through.

I think a quality big man would help us compete seriously with any team-winning a7 game series might be a different story but all I ask is to be put in position to 1. make the playoffs 2. Have the ability to seriously compete. Im not interested to go into the playoffs if we have no chance to compete--then you are better off in the lottery. Its important as well to make sure Wilson's leg is Ok --obviously you dont go from being a guy putting up 17-7 to all of a sudden being a terrible player. He always has a brace on that lower leg---if he needs extended rest--give him the rest.

Bonn1997 wrote:

Markji wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

umynot wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

umynot wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Ill tell you--put him next to Amare and we are viscous. I don't thi9nk we are getting melo until FA--but there is no reason we cant do a deal for SD.

I like Jordan better

Jordan isn't getting traded. He is Blake's guy. The Dalembert Hawes trade did not work out for either team. Dalembert is available and probably at a bargain price.

I keep hearing that Jordan is Griffen's friend and they have a strong bond but as long as Sterling owns that
team I say Jordan is more available then we think.

That being said I agree we need a big man but we need to give back at least 7 million in contracts back to
Fit Dal under cap.

7 million means at the min Buki and Chandler so I say no thanks!!

Dalembert expires after this season according to Hoopshype. He shouldn't affect our cap.

Dalembert has a $12.2 mil expiring contract. We would need to include Curry's $11.28 contract + players and/or picks so we balance salary. 80% is $9.76 mil minimum. We can't make the trade now as we need Eddy, etc for a possible Melo trade. If at the deadline, Denver makes it clear that they aren't going to trade Melo, then I would trade Curry + Chandler for Dalembert if we had an agreement with Dalembert that he would sign with us after the season for a more reasonable contract (like $7-8 mil/year for 2-3 years.)

That would be a lot to give up. Chandler is a better player Dalembert even though Dalembert fills a need we have better than Chandler does. I'd at least want a protected 1st round pick (it could be top 18 or so protected). Alternatively, I'd explore a package centering around Curry and Chandler for Iggy and Dalembert. I'm not sure that gives us a good enough core to win a championship but if we are in the win-now mode, it at least helps us significantly.

Re: Dalembert - other contending teams could go after him by offering young player(s), an expiring and a pick. We are not in the drivers seat with this like we are with Melo who only wants to play here. If we can pick Dalembert up at a reasonable price, that would immediately help us.

Markji wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

umynot wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

umynot wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Ill tell you--put him next to Amare and we are viscous. I don't thi9nk we are getting melo until FA--but there is no reason we cant do a deal for SD.

I like Jordan better

Jordan isn't getting traded. He is Blake's guy. The Dalembert Hawes trade did not work out for either team. Dalembert is available and probably at a bargain price.

I keep hearing that Jordan is Griffen's friend and they have a strong bond but as long as Sterling owns that
team I say Jordan is more available then we think.

That being said I agree we need a big man but we need to give back at least 7 million in contracts back to
Fit Dal under cap.

7 million means at the min Buki and Chandler so I say no thanks!!

Dalembert expires after this season according to Hoopshype. He shouldn't affect our cap.

Dalembert has a $12.2 mil expiring contract. We would need to include Curry's $11.28 contract + players and/or picks so we balance salary. 80% is $9.76 mil minimum. We can't make the trade now as we need Eddy, etc for a possible Melo trade. If at the deadline, Denver makes it clear that they aren't going to trade Melo, then I would trade Curry + Chandler for Dalembert if we had an agreement with Dalembert that he would sign with us after the season for a more reasonable contract (like $7-8 mil/year for 2-3 years.)

WHAT?! Sam Dalembert is a BACKUP on a terrible team. He's not worth Wilson Chandler of $8M. He's a MLE at best. He's actually having a very mediocre year (5.3 ppg on 46% shooting, 6.2 rpg and 1.6 bpg in 20 mpg).

Randolph Azu(contract is covered by insurance) and a restricted 2014 #1 pick

Markji wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Markji wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

umynot wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

umynot wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Ill tell you--put him next to Amare and we are viscous. I don't thi9nk we are getting melo until FA--but there is no reason we cant do a deal for SD.

I like Jordan better

Jordan isn't getting traded. He is Blake's guy. The Dalembert Hawes trade did not work out for either team. Dalembert is available and probably at a bargain price.

I keep hearing that Jordan is Griffen's friend and they have a strong bond but as long as Sterling owns that
team I say Jordan is more available then we think.

That being said I agree we need a big man but we need to give back at least 7 million in contracts back to
Fit Dal under cap.

7 million means at the min Buki and Chandler so I say no thanks!!

Dalembert expires after this season according to Hoopshype. He shouldn't affect our cap.

Dalembert has a $12.2 mil expiring contract. We would need to include Curry's $11.28 contract + players and/or picks so we balance salary. 80% is $9.76 mil minimum. We can't make the trade now as we need Eddy, etc for a possible Melo trade. If at the deadline, Denver makes it clear that they aren't going to trade Melo, then I would trade Curry + Chandler for Dalembert if we had an agreement with Dalembert that he would sign with us after the season for a more reasonable contract (like $7-8 mil/year for 2-3 years.)

That would be a lot to give up. Chandler is a better player Dalembert even though Dalembert fills a need we have better than Chandler does. I'd at least want a protected 1st round pick (it could be top 18 or so protected). Alternatively, I'd explore a package centering around Curry and Chandler for Iggy and Dalembert. I'm not sure that gives us a good enough core to win a championship but if we are in the win-now mode, it at least helps us significantly.

You are right - Chandler is too much to give up. I was thinking salary for next year. Dalembert is on Sac now so getting Iggy with him can't happen.

Re: Dalembert - other contending teams could go after him by offering young player(s), an expiring and a pick. We are not in the drivers seat with this like we are with Melo who only wants to play here. If we can pick Dalembert up at a reasonable price, that would immediately help us.

Oh oops! I forgot he was on SAC. Darn, I thought I had a good idea.