http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ml_egypt_protest

There are greater social pressures here than how much it costs to fill up our tanks...

JesseDark wrote:What this means is that Libya is now the stable one. If you look at how this began, it started in Tunisa skipped over Libya and went to Egypt and Yemen. I guess we will be warming up to Khadhfi again.

haha... well, what I think happened there is that Libyans get welfare money. It is just enough to be comfortable but not nearly enough to get ahead. Kind of that "don't bite the hand that feeds" thing. They give subsidy to stuff like fishing equipment. People there make there money doing stuff like that, and the only reason I know about the subsidy is the people I worked with that loved to dive would buy the equipment in Libya because it was significantly cheaper than elsewhere. So, Gaddafi "gives" but in ways that don't redistribute the power

On top of that in the 80s, when people started to voice their opinions, they got hung from the Old City's walls... so there's that keeping them in check too

Dumb hungry people will topple sorry ass government! They won't think it thru, they HUNGRY!

GustavBahler wrote:They live under a brutal dictatorship which we've supported from the start and now they want their freedom. How dare they!

This is the thing that most people have no idea about. I was listening to a Noam Chomsky talk and he went into details about it (us supporting them. I don't agree with everything Chomsky says but at least he knows how to find the info in legit US docs.)

Didn't the vice president just say that he (their Pres) is not a dictator - LOL. Yeah, cause we support them (and others).

The peace hating fundamentalists killed Anwar Sadat who might have led egypt to greatness. After failed wars they got back the lands they lost and with peace could divert funds from military into the infrastructure.

We back the dictators as it is not the best choice but perhaps one that keeps "things going". Middle east has so many problems. U.S. Support and Hating on us and Israel is not the solution. The Fundamentalist vacuum gives false hope and further impoverishes while stripping human rights and increases illiteracy. Taliban does a great job of taking a bad situation and making it worse.

Nalod wrote:

The peace hating fundamentalists killed Anwar Sadat who might have led egypt to greatness. After failed wars they got back the lands they lost and with peace could divert funds from military into the infrastructure.

We back the dictators as it is not the best choice but perhaps one that keeps "things going". Middle east has so many problems. U.S. Support and Hating on us and Israel is not the solution. The Fundamentalist vacuum gives false hope and further impoverishes while stripping human rights and increases illiteracy. Taliban does a great job of taking a bad situation and making it worse.

Israel should have not given those lands back. It's like giving them a 'do-over'. It's this type of babying that enables these bum dictators to continue their ways unabated.

It's scary and unnerving to think what Israel must go through everyday in their part of the world, it's like having the worst neighbors in the world.

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BRIGGS wrote:

loweyecue wrote:

TMS wrote:let's nuke em

No way they don't have oil money and Haliburton has no use for mummies and pyramids. Otherwise we would have declared them islamic terrorists about 5 years ago.

The US cares about the price/availability of oil--it's a predominant factor in foreign policy. It has the ability to shake our economy(higher oil prices) at a time we dont need a tremor. People might say well this is just in Egypt--nope--it's a chain reaction that effects all.

True indeed. And a financial turmoil only benefits those that seek to destroy than build. Need money to build hospitals, schools and infrastructure to grow food and manufacture goods!

Violence is never good, it's a negative action. Money is a positive endeavor. Say what you want about the drawbacks of 'making money', it's still an overwhelmingly positive medium. It's a great equalizing abstraction that all mankind can take part in and focus their energies towards.

Violence destroys and wastes human energy on the negative, on death, as opposed to peaceful and productive interaction centered around cash money.

What's happening in Egypt is reckless, it's irresponsible, it's negative. And that's a damned shame.