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1/18/2011  6:49 PM
Some interesting quotes and info...


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/ian_thomsen/01/18/carmelo/index.html


Carmelo Anthony walked past a line of buffet trays and shook his head. "No meat, no bread, no sweets," he said last Wednesday when we met in the Nuggets' player lounge for a 40-minute interview. "I'm in day four for 21 days. It's a personal fast, that's all."

Larger issues than his next meal are facing Anthony. As detailed in my story in Sports Illustrated this week, the Nuggets star small forward has spent the last six months attempting to leverage his way out of Denver in time to sign a three-year, $65 million extension with a team of his choosing.

Anthony understands the risks of declining that extension with the Nuggets. "People just see the fact that I haven't signed that contract right now and [they think] I don't care about this city, I don't care about the team, I just want to leave, I just want to be selfish, it's about money," he said. "If it was just about money, I would have been signed for $65-mill. Who in their right mind would leave $65 million if it was about money?"

He wasn't denying the importance of money; he was insisting the location of his next team is also important. "That's the best of both worlds," he said. Later he added, "All my family is East -- back home."

SI: Carmelo says he 'would never do it like LeBron did'

When I pressed him about moving to New York -- it is known that he wants to play for the Knicks, while the Nets [who are moving to Brooklyn in 2012] are most likely to complete a trade for him -- he hinted at other issues, as well. "Right now it's hard for me to explain my reasoning behind the madness," he said with a smile. "But it's a lot of things that come into play. Whether it's the future of the organization or where they're headed or where they're trying to go, or whether it's contractual stuff with players and guys that are up [to be free agents] at the same time. People don't really know that type of stuff. They just think that I'm being stubborn and I just want to get up and leave -- just throw away eight years of my life."

Anthony said the ongoing collective bargaining negotiations between the league and its players have created a sense of urgency for him. "I've been sitting in meetings with the owners and seeing what is their problem with everything," he said. "I've been in several of the meetings to know what the problem is and what's going on. It's going to take some time to get the owners and the players on the same page."

Is there going to be a lockout?

"Oh, without a doubt," he said. "Without a doubt."

So that's another reason to sign the extension now, I said.

"Exactly."


You could wait until the summer, I went on, but there is no telling which teams may have cap space or what the rules of the next CBA will allow you to do as a free agent.

"Everything you say right now, I lie on the table and try to break down every situation, every scenario," he said. "Everything you're saying, I've already [put] thought into it. You don't know what the future's going to bring. That's how I have to look at it, because I don't really know what's going to happen in the future."

Anthony is essentially trying to leverage his rights as a free agent months before he can opt out of his contract this summer. He is in this predicament because he chose in 2006 to sign a full five-year contract (with an opt-out for this summer), while LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh -- who all entered the NBA with Anthony in the 2003 draft -- negotiated shorter deals that enabled them to become free agents in 2010, the last summer of the current financial rules.

"I just wanted some security," Anthony said of his 2006 choice. "I felt like I was secure in my situation at the time. I had no worries, I was happy being here, happy being around the guys who were on the team, so I never really paid attention to the CBA coming up. I shouldn't say I wasn't paying attention, but I wasn't knowledgeable of what it can be."

While his desire to leave has put the Nuggets in the difficult position of breaking up a 23-17 playoff contender, it has also given them an opportunity to exchange Anthony for more assets than were received by the Cavaliers or Raptors, who last summer lost James and Bosh, respectively, while receiving little value in return. That's why Anthony has been able to tell reporters whether he was close to being traded -- because he has maintained a constructive relationship with Nuggets GM Masai Ujiri and president Josh Kroenke.

"If there's anything he needed to talk to me about, the lines of communication are open," Anthony said of Ujiri. "Same thing with Josh --we had some great conversations. We sit and talk often."

Would Anthony sign an extension with the Nets if they were able to complete a trade for him? He wouldn't tell me, but he indicated Ujiri knows the answer. "If he wanted to know, he could come and ask me," said Anthony. "There's nothing that's been said in the paper that we haven't talked about already, and there's things that I know and he know that has not gotten out there and that people don't even know about right now."

After spending last week in Denver, my understanding -- and no one has told me this explicitly -- is that Anthony would be likely to accept a meeting with the Nets if they could negotiate the terms of a trade. The only reason to stiff New Jersey would be in hope of forcing a trade to the Knicks. But if the Nuggets can't move to Anthony to the Nets, then they may choose to deal him to the Rockets or any number of other teams who have shown interest in acquiring him on a for-rental basis with the risk that he'll depart as a free agent after the season.

If he were to rule out the Nets as a long-term destination, then he may be sent to who knows where? for the remainder of the season -- and then come to realize after the lockout that he has no options to leave if, for example, the owners enact a "franchise player" rule in the next CBA that allows each team to designate one star to be re-signed automatically.

The Knicks are surely a more alluring franchise than the Nets. But the Knicks also happen to be Amar'e Stoudemire's team now, while the Nets would be built around Anthony's finishing skills. Anthony was born in Brooklyn, so the Nets' move to their new arena in 2012-13 would be billed as his homecoming -- the House 'Melo Built.

Anthony is not the first star of his era to deal with these issues. Chris Paul -- who is rumored to want to follow Anthony to New Jersey or New York as a free agent in 2012 -- asked the Hornets last summer to improve the talent around him. When James, Wade and Bosh moved to Miami, all three were insistent about wanting to share the responsibilities offensively. Anthony told me he texts often with Paul, James, Wade and Kobe Bryant, who has won two championships since he was paired with All-Star big man Pau Gasol.

"Everybody growing up says, 'I wish I could play with this guy, I wish I could play with that guy," he said. "I've always been an individual -- I always did things on my own, I always wanted to lead my own way, and I think I've done a great job here. By making this city fun, making this organization fun and people wanting to watch Denver Nuggets basketball, I think I've done a great job with that.

"But there comes a time where maybe that burden gets too heavy. But that's not going to stop me from going out and doing what I'm doing. I'm pretty sure everybody goes through it. LeBron went through it in Cleveland, D-Wade went through it in Miami. But then they got people. Kobe went through it at L.A. -- he definitely was going through it until they got Gasol and they got Lamar [Odom] and all them guys. Everybody goes through it, especially the offensive players, the great players."

Anthony noted that James was criticized last summer after he took less money to move to a team where he was likely to score fewer points.

"It's a sacrificial story for a guy of that caliber to say, OK, I'm going to leave the place where I am The Guy on the team, and to sacrifice his game to go partner up with two players down there. And to say, I'm going to do what I've got to do to buy into the program, to buy into the team and do what I've got to do to try to win the championship -- I don't see anything wrong with that.

"Maybe the way he went about it and the whole situation, I could see why people were mad at that. But as far as him sacrificing and doing the things for that team to be successful, I don't see nothing wrong with that."

Anthony has remained upbeat in spite of the criticism he has earned this season. "I got to," he said. "It would be hard for me to frown knowing that I still have to go out there and compete at the highest level. So for me to go out there and be moping around and frowning, and every time somebody says something I may not like and turn back quick and say something back, or put my head down -- that wouldn't be me.

"It's much better to be in a happy place within yourself."

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1/18/2011  7:02 PM
nice read... Melo seems like he's got a good head on his shoulders & has thought this whole thing out thoroughly... seems like he knows what he's getting himself into & is ready to take the steps he thinks is necessary to progress in his career.
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1/18/2011  7:13 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/18/2011  9:05 PM
As I alluded to in the other thread, if Melo feels their is a lockout looming then he has no incentive to opt out of his contract. This would explain why he is pushing so hard for the extension.

Makes no sense to opt out and sign a 5 year deal when half the season is over making the deal effectively 4.5 years. He can just make the prorated amount from Denver and sign a potential 5 year deal summer 2012.

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1/18/2011  7:43 PM
Melo alluded to there being different factors that are driving his decision here... it's not just about the money he made that much clear... obviously he has family matters to consider as well as personal desire to compete for championships... i think all of these things will factor into his decision... like he said himself, if it was just about the money he would have signed that extension a long time ago.
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1/18/2011  8:10 PM
there's twelve melo threads
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switch it up, mardrew
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1/18/2011  8:12 PM
http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/71216/20110118/carmelo_has_only_considered_extension_with_nuggets_knicks/

There are still only two teams that Carmelo Anthony has thought about signing a contract extension with: the Nuggets and Knicks, a source told Ken Berger of CBS Sports.

Anthony isn't pushing for a meeting with the Nets, which would take place to discuss the possibility of an extension before New Jersey, Denver and Detroit complete a three-team deal highlighted by the All-Star forward.

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1/18/2011  8:17 PM
eViL wrote:there's twelve melo threads
ultimelo knicks dot com
switch it up, mardrew

Right, more haikus. Take your own advice.

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1/18/2011  8:31 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
eViL wrote:there's twelve melo threads
ultimelo knicks dot com
switch it up, mardrew

Right, more haikus. Take your own advice.

write more haikus? really? you like em that much. haha.

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1/18/2011  8:46 PM
eViL wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
eViL wrote:there's twelve melo threads
ultimelo knicks dot com
switch it up, mardrew

Right, more haikus. Take your own advice.

write more haikus? really? you like em that much. haha.

Only if they're about not seeing enough Melo threads.

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1/18/2011  8:48 PM
oh and gustav, if that is your real name, i meant no offense to you. t'was a mere observation in which your thread was the beneficiary of my poetic stylings due strictly to its position at the top of the forum at the time in which i was inspired to drop a blessing. i meant not to stifle conversation or to belittle your contribution to this wonderful forum in which we discuss all things melo. sincerely, and with no sarcasm, please don't take offense. i'm just a ball buster.
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1/18/2011  8:48 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
eViL wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
eViL wrote:there's twelve melo threads
ultimelo knicks dot com
switch it up, mardrew

Right, more haikus. Take your own advice.

write more haikus? really? you like em that much. haha.

Only if they're about not seeing enough Melo threads.

haha! got it!

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1/18/2011  8:54 PM
I like Melo. I too have a happy place I go to when people yell naughty stuff at me
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1/18/2011  9:05 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/18/2011  9:18 PM
TMS wrote:Melo alluded to there being different factors that are driving his decision here... it's not just about the money he made that much clear... obviously he has family matters to consider as well as personal desire to compete for championships... i think all of these things will factor into his decision... like he said himself, if it was just about the money he would have signed that extension a long time ago.

Would Anthony sign an extension with the Nets if they were able to complete a trade for him? He wouldn't tell me, but he indicated Ujiri knows the answer. "If he wanted to know, he could come and ask me," said Anthony. "There's nothing that's been said in the paper that we haven't talked about already, and there's things that I know and he know that has not gotten out there and that people don't even know about right now."

Melo's lip service is nice. Thing is he could have deaded the NJ Nets months ago yet Denver and NJ continue to try to hammer out a deal. Carmelo even said Masai(Denver's GM) doesnt need to ask him where he wants to go because he already told him.

Carmelo can sign the extension anytime until June 30th too. Plus Carmelo is under contract next year if he chooses too for a cool 18 million. Carmelo wants that $$$$ otherwise Masai wouldnt be pursuing trades.

If he cared about just winning he'd sign outright with the Knicks.

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1/18/2011  9:19 PM
eViL wrote:oh and gustav, if that is your real name, i meant no offense to you. t'was a mere observation in which your thread was the beneficiary of my poetic stylings due strictly to its position at the top of the forum at the time in which i was inspired to drop a blessing. i meant not to stifle conversation or to belittle your contribution to this wonderful forum in which we discuss all things melo. sincerely, and with no sarcasm, please don't take offense. i'm just a ball buster.

Not a problem eVil, just a little friendly trash talk. Its a part of playing bball and its a part of what makes this forum a fun place to visit, we're good.

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1/18/2011  9:20 PM
AnubisADL wrote:As I alluded to in the other thread, if Melo feels their is a lockout looming then he has no incentive to opt out of his contract. This would explain why he is pushing so hard for the extension.

Makes no sense to opt out and sign a 5 year deal when half the season is over making the deal effectively 4.5 years. He can just make the prorated amount from Denver and sign a potential 5 year deal summer 2012.

not sure I follow this logic. If there is a lockout, no one gets paid, whether you have a current contract or if you just opted out of one and signed a new one. so it doesn't matter either way.

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martin wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:As I alluded to in the other thread, if Melo feels their is a lockout looming then he has no incentive to opt out of his contract. This would explain why he is pushing so hard for the extension.

Makes no sense to opt out and sign a 5 year deal when half the season is over making the deal effectively 4.5 years. He can just make the prorated amount from Denver and sign a potential 5 year deal summer 2012.

not sure I follow this logic. If there is a lockout, no one gets paid, whether you have a current contract or if you just opted out of one and signed a new one. so it doesn't matter either way.

No one gets paid until the season resumes. When the season resumes your salary is prorated.

If Melo falls down a flight of stairs and breaks his back he is still entitled to his guaranteed prorated salary. See Jayson Williams. If breaks his back with no contract I dont see him signing a new deal.

As I said it is easy to say guaranteed cash doesnt matter when it's not your cash. Carmelo has to opt OUT of 18.5 million dollars to become a UFA which is easier said than done. He also has a wife and kid too think about.

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1/18/2011  9:30 PM
AnubisADL wrote:
No one gets paid until the season resumes. When the season resumes your salary is prorated.

If Melo falls down a flight of stairs and breaks his back he is still entitled to his guaranteed prorated salary. See Jayson Williams. If breaks his back with no contract I dont see him signing a new deal.

As I said it is easy to say guaranteed cash doesnt matter when it's not your cash. Carmelo has to opt OUT of 18.5 million dollars to become a UFA which is easier said than done. He also has a wife and kid too think about.

I can guarantee you Melo is thinking about Melo, not "his wife and kid." Melo has already earned enough money in his lifetime for his wife and kid. Regardless of whether he's thinking about the money, or about the trophy, he's not worried if he has enough money to take care of his kid.

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1/18/2011  9:31 PM
NEWARK, N.J. (AP) - A person with knowledge of the proposed Carmelo Anthony trade says the holdup is over the framework of the deal, not the All-Star forward's willingness to commit to New Jersey.

Though they appeared close to a deal 11 days ago, the teams are still negotiating what the Nets would send to Denver, the person told The Associated Press on Tuesday on condition of anyonymity because he was not authorized to speak publiclly about the trade.

New Jersey has offered to ship six players and at least two first-round draft picks to Denver in the deal that would send Anthony to the Nets along with former Pistons teammates Chauncey Billups and Richard Hamilton.


But the teams haven't been able to agree on the exact price that will persuade the Nuggets to finally part with their franchise player

The person added that the Nets are not concerned about Anthony's commitment to the franchise for the long term should the trade be completed, saying they are convinced the 26-year-old will sign a $65 million, three-year contract extension if New Jersey, Denver and Detroit can agree on the others parts of the deal.

The teams continued their negotiations on Tuesday, but little was happening, the person said.

Anthony has refused to sign an extension that the Nuggets put on the table before the season started, leading Denver to listen to trade proposals.

The Nets and Nuggets came close to making a deal for Anthony before the season started. Talks renewed in earnest after New Year's with more than a dozen players involved in what has to be considered a megadeal.

However, the on-again, off-again process appears to be weighing on Anthony and casual observers.

"I stopped following it. It's getting to the point where you're just like, move on already or don't," said Miami guard Dwyane Wade, a friend of Anthony's "I'm sure 'Melo is more tired of it than anybody. But it's just to the point, as a sports fan, you're just, 'All right, it's just enough.' I'm sure for everybody in Denver and everybody in New Jersey as well, and whatever other team comes into it, it's been a long saga. It's been a long soap opera. Hopefully it comes to an end and they can focus on basketball."

There were reports over the weekend that the Nets had asked for and received permission from the Nuggets to talk to Anthony.

The high-scoring forward scoffed when asked about them Sunday, calling the reports false.

"I don't want to talk to nobody," Anthony said. "I'll let the front office handle that. It ain't my job to be talking to New Jersey, New York, Lakers, Dallas, no one. That's not my job to do."

Anthony, who could become a free agent at this season, is the centerpiece of the deal and a star that New Jersey feels it can build a team around, especially when it moves to Brooklyn for the 2012-13 season.

New Jersey would send point guard Devin Harris, rookie power forward Derrick Favors, the third draft pick overall, guards Anthony Morrow, Quinton Ross and Ben Uzoh, swingman Stephen Graham and at least two first-round draft picks to Denver.

In addition to Anthony and Billups, the Nuggets would send Shelden Williams and Terrico White, who is injured, to the Nets.

The Pistons would receive veteran Troy Murphy and center Johan Petro for Hamilton. Murphy has a $12 million contract that will expire after this season.

Since the trade talk started, the Nets have gone into a tailspin, losing six straight games, including all four on a West Coast trip that ended in Oakland on Monday.

New Jersey returns to action on Wednesday at home against Utah, and new owner Mikhail Prokhorov plans to be at the game to celebrate an evening of Russian culture.

Prokhorov, who took over the team last year, also plans to talk to the media about his first full year at the helm, a season that has seen New Jersey post a 10-31 record at the halfway point, the second-worst record in the Eastern Conference.

Nets coach Avery Johnson said Monday he hasn't been told of any potential meeting with Anthony, adding he expected no roster change before the game against the Jazz.

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Panos wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:
No one gets paid until the season resumes. When the season resumes your salary is prorated.

If Melo falls down a flight of stairs and breaks his back he is still entitled to his guaranteed prorated salary. See Jayson Williams. If breaks his back with no contract I dont see him signing a new deal.

As I said it is easy to say guaranteed cash doesnt matter when it's not your cash. Carmelo has to opt OUT of 18.5 million dollars to become a UFA which is easier said than done. He also has a wife and kid too think about.

I can guarantee you Melo is thinking about Melo, not "his wife and kid." Melo has already earned enough money in his lifetime for his wife and kid. Regardless of whether he's thinking about the money, or about the trophy, he's not worried if he has enough money to take care of his kid.

LOL. So I guess that is why NBA players who make tens of millions who later go broke are an anomaly. I guess Iverson is pretending to be broke too.

Im just going to say Carmelo Anthony isn't Lebron James when it comes to off court revenue.

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