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orangeblobman
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1/17/2011  9:14 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/17/2011  9:15 AM
Hey Anthony Randolph, as a Knicks fan, I don't appreciate you because there is nothing to appreciate. I certainly don't appreciate defeatist, moping attitudes. I sincerely hope you can correct this at some point before you are exiled to the Chinese league.

Good riddance, we're lucky to get a first round pick for you because, in all honesty, you're not even worth a third round pick, I might give up a fourth round pick for you and draft Cheryl Miller, because she has more game than you.

Thank you, good luck, I hope you drop tons of buckets on Minnesota, a losing team, which is the only kind of team you will ever be able to contribute on.

I sincerely hope you can right the ship, because you have tons of potential. You have more potential than David Lee ever did, but he's an all-star. You can be a near-MVP if you just work hard at it. But I don't know. I hope you do it, man. I will continue to cheer for you every time I see a news blip with your name, about how you dropped some buckets and had a few swats in a game. Not really though.

WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
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1/17/2011  9:32 AM
Remember the Karma thing?

Once gone his success is of no consequence to knicks. It sucks when a player blows up after you rid of them but its part of roster building. The focus is on what is received in a trade.

Otherwise all that negative energy bits you in the ass.

If AR is the means to a pick or a good trade thats great. I'd wish him well. Best if goes to "summer school" and fulfills the lofty expectations in a Knick Uniform.

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1/17/2011  10:03 AM
This is a classless thread.
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1/17/2011  10:10 AM
i still think MDA could've handled this situation better. it's the coaches job to bring out the talent or fit the talent into the system, no?
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1/17/2011  10:14 AM
BigSm00th wrote:i still think MDA could've handled this situation better. it's the coaches job to bring out the talent or fit the talent into the system, no?

I agree with you.

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1/17/2011  10:34 AM
BigSm00th wrote:i still think MDA could've handled this situation better. it's the coaches job to bring out the talent or fit the talent into the system, no?

He's a coach not a kindergarten teacher.

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1/17/2011  10:54 AM
MDA is just letting AR marinate on the bench until he is all nice and ready to contribute in their winning efforts. This is also MDA's contract year, perhaps he don't want AR to make him look silly?
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1/17/2011  10:54 AM
orangeblobman wrote:
BigSm00th wrote:i still think MDA could've handled this situation better. it's the coaches job to bring out the talent or fit the talent into the system, no?

He's a coach not a kindergarten teacher.

Coach:
+someone in charge of training an athlete or a team
+a person who gives private instruction
+teach and supervise (someone); act as a trainer

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1/17/2011  10:57 AM
Vmart wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:
BigSm00th wrote:i still think MDA could've handled this situation better. it's the coaches job to bring out the talent or fit the talent into the system, no?

He's a coach not a kindergarten teacher.

Coach:
+someone in charge of training an athlete or a team
+a person who gives private instruction
+teach and supervise (someone); act as a trainer

vmart, what the hell are you talking about?

when do you put pressure on a player to step up to the plate?

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1/17/2011  11:04 AM
martin wrote:
Vmart wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:
BigSm00th wrote:i still think MDA could've handled this situation better. it's the coaches job to bring out the talent or fit the talent into the system, no?

He's a coach not a kindergarten teacher.

Coach:
+someone in charge of training an athlete or a team
+a person who gives private instruction
+teach and supervise (someone); act as a trainer

vmart, what the hell are you talking about?

when do you put pressure on a player to step up to the plate?

Yup. This sounds a lot like everyone in little league gets a trophy for participating. The one that works hard is that one that should get reward. It seems a lot here think AR is entitled just because where he was picked or that he showed glimpses of talent in GS.

martin is right, when do you put pressure on a player to step up to the plate?

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1/17/2011  11:45 AM
this team and mda's career were in serious jeopardy at 3-8. i give the man a lot of credit for stepping up and making the changes that he did. AR and moz were part of the problem - benching them became part of the solution. what happens going forward is another question but i credit mda for making the changes that he did at the time which were proven to be the right ones.
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1/17/2011  11:46 AM
For those of you who don't think MDA's teams is the best place for AR (i.e. known to be the most player-friendly offense out there), I'd like to know what team with what coach would be a better fit for AR. Exactly the team this year. Perhaps one with a suck ass record and a coach who doesn't care about playing in a way that's positive for the team as a whole? Which team is that?

Is it Sacramento? Where the coach is gonna get fired but players can make a ton of mistakes (and sometime regress like Evans?)
Nets with the little admiral? BTW, Lopez hates the coach.
Milwaukee, the young player friendly coach? Actually, he's not that friendly to young players who make mistakes.

Where?

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1/17/2011  11:51 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/17/2011  11:52 AM
I've never had a problem with MDA not playing AR.

Getting minutes is an indication of earning your coach's respect. And AR just hasn't earned the respect.

You can't just put a guy out there to see what he can do, this isn't NCAA ball.

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1/17/2011  12:00 PM
I guess what made me ready to move on from the Knicks Randolph experiment was that sorry ass look on his face when he's riding the bench. AR looked a bit lost out there at first and that's not unusual for a kid coming to play in a major market like New York, much more expectations. But at some point he should of lost that look and started acting like it was about the team and not him, but he didn't so its time to move on.

Its too bad, Randolph might not have the same hops he had before the injury, but he still had the talent to be a dangerous player. He has lots of growing up to do.

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1/17/2011  12:07 PM
martin wrote:For those of you who don't think MDA's teams is the best place for AR (i.e. known to be the most player-friendly offense out there), I'd like to know what team with what coach would be a better fit for AR. Exactly the team this year. Perhaps one with a suck ass record and a coach who doesn't care about playing in a way that's positive for the team as a whole? Which team is that?

Is it Sacramento? Where the coach is gonna get fired but players can make a ton of mistakes (and sometime regress like Evans?)
Nets with the little admiral? BTW, Lopez hates the coach.
Milwaukee, the young player friendly coach? Actually, he's not that friendly to young players who make mistakes.

Where?

China

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1/17/2011  12:12 PM
It's am embarrassment that all we got for David Lee was Ronny Turiaf a great role player that can't stay healthy. This one is on Walsh. Youtube and box scores indicated this kid had talent, but if you knew you weren't signing Lee you needed to get a better package.

He doesn't seem to understand that in order to play he needs to rebound and block shots and just be active around the rim. He should be able to provide some minutes and give Amare a break. I don't know how you can be so wrong about a kid and not do your home work.

That being said, it's hard to really know unless you have been benched and are not party of a team to see how you would react. It really destroys your confidence when it happens and it's tough to show positive behavior. It's easy to slam a guy, but you start to doubt yourself and a part of you dies.

David Lee is worth more than a late round pick and 40 games out of a Turiaf.

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1/17/2011  12:12 PM
martin wrote:
Vmart wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:
BigSm00th wrote:i still think MDA could've handled this situation better. it's the coaches job to bring out the talent or fit the talent into the system, no?

He's a coach not a kindergarten teacher.

Coach:
+someone in charge of training an athlete or a team
+a person who gives private instruction
+teach and supervise (someone); act as a trainer

vmart, what the hell are you talking about?

when do you put pressure on a player to step up to the plate?

MDA doesn't know how to coach up talent and that is what it is all about. Everyone is entitled to make mistakes but for some reason AR isn't sorry but that is poor coaching on MDA's part. If Alvin Gentry was coaching the Knicks he would have found a way to utilize Mozgov and AR much better than MDA and still produced the same or better results with the Knicks. MDA takes everything to far to the point of no return with players. As of now there is no way to get AR back and only a trade would suffice all because MDA shows a weakness in his coaching abilities which basically alienates players.

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1/17/2011  12:21 PM
MDA was giving everyone but Ruatins and Curry minutes early ....

I remember in pre-season AR getting bulk minutes with first unit.

He got hurt and really never did much when he was playing.

We were 3-8 and the coach asked 8 guys to step up and help him win.....

AR has not stepped up......... Mason hit 43 straight 3's in practice b4 Utah game
and got minutes.... Walker and Wiilliams kill it in practice and play!

TD chucks way too much for my liking but he hustles and gets to play.

Point is if AR plays hard in practice and proves he belongs he will play if not
he will be traded again...... I had my doubts bout how Nelson treated this kid and
after seeing how he treated Webber I thought maybe we were robbing GS .

AR could be like Jermaine O"Neal and Tracy MacGrady and blossom late which is likely.

I for 1 still think he could still be a GREAT KNICK but he needs to get that no one else!

If he starts playing well against Amare in practice he will be like TD last year and get to play
if he is not traded first.

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1/17/2011  12:33 PM
Vmart wrote:
martin wrote:
Vmart wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:
BigSm00th wrote:i still think MDA could've handled this situation better. it's the coaches job to bring out the talent or fit the talent into the system, no?

He's a coach not a kindergarten teacher.

Coach:
+someone in charge of training an athlete or a team
+a person who gives private instruction
+teach and supervise (someone); act as a trainer

vmart, what the hell are you talking about?

when do you put pressure on a player to step up to the plate?

MDA doesn't know how to coach up talent and that is what it is all about. Everyone is entitled to make mistakes but for some reason AR isn't sorry but that is poor coaching on MDA's part. If Alvin Gentry was coaching the Knicks he would have found a way to utilize Mozgov and AR much better than MDA and still produced the same or better results with the Knicks. MDA takes everything to far to the point of no return with players. As of now there is no way to get AR back and only a trade would suffice all because MDA shows a weakness in his coaching abilities which basically alienates players.

how do you come to those conclusions?

MDA has coached up Felton, Fields, Williams, Chandler, Gallo, Walker. MDA coached up Nash to an MVP. He made Boris Diaw. Joe Johnson got a contract from his coaching.

What was Gentry doing with talent like Earl Clark? He is similar to AR.

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1/17/2011  12:40 PM
umynot wrote:MDA was giving everyone but Ruatins and Curry minutes early ....

I remember in pre-season AR getting bulk minutes with first unit.

He got hurt and really never did much when he was playing.

We were 3-8 and the coach asked 8 guys to step up and help him win.....

AR has not stepped up......... Mason hit 43 straight 3's in practice b4 Utah game
and got minutes.... Walker and Wiilliams kill it in practice and play!

TD chucks way too much for my liking but he hustles and gets to play.

Point is if AR plays hard in practice and proves he belongs he will play if not
he will be traded again...... I had my doubts bout how Nelson treated this kid and
after seeing how he treated Webber I thought maybe we were robbing GS .

AR could be like Jermaine O"Neal and Tracy MacGrady and blossom late which is likely.

I for 1 still think he could still be a GREAT KNICK but he needs to get that no one else!

If he starts playing well against Amare in practice he will be like TD last year and get to play
if he is not traded first.


He certainly has been very disappointing but I don't think he was ever given a chance. He played in 9 consecutive games and averaged under 9 minutes for all but 1 of them. I think he found his way into the doghouse pretty early on and there is no way out for him in NY. I think it would be wrong to think that this wasn't on both guys involved.
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