BRIGGS wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:I agree. He is hard to handle for any team on offense but at some point those stingers that he keeps getting in his shoulder are going to become more than that. I also think that as currently constructed the Knicks have a limited ceiling.

Turiaf does not have the physical abilities to be able to play at his highest talent level as a starter in the NBA--putting him in there is just masking a problem. Think about just having a carl landry who could play the Paul Millspa role of what eh does to A Jefferson next to Amare for NY. You need a guy who can take pressure off amare score when hes not in there AND have a third guy like a Dalembart or in our case Turiaf to play D--you need 3.5 guys we have 1.5

Knixkik wrote:Is Landry a good enough rebounder and defender to start next to Stoudemire?

The other main consideration - he is available and Sac is showcasing him now. Has a $3 mil expiring.

If we want a shot-blocking, then Dalembert from Sac is also available. Expiring ($12.2 mil)

But we aren't going to make any trades until Melo makes a decision. Need to keep the assets.

TMS wrote:Melo would play PF in an MDA system & he's a better post player than anyone u can name that we can get.

And he's an excellent rebounder, which would justify him playing the 4 spot.

TMS wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

TMS wrote:Melo would play PF in an MDA system & he's a better post player than anyone u can name that we can get.

And he's an excellent rebounder, which would justify him playing the 4 spot.

my God, we're talking about a 6'8" 230 lb superstar player who averages 24 & 8 & can post up high or low, score from long distance & in transition& you got guys talking about Carl Landry as if he's a better option... it's insanity.

Don't be silly. We're better off keeping Landry Fields, who is a future Shane Battier.

Markji wrote:

TMS wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

TMS wrote:Melo would play PF in an MDA system & he's a better post player than anyone u can name that we can get.

And he's an excellent rebounder, which would justify him playing the 4 spot.

my God, we're talking about a 6'8" 230 lb superstar player who averages 24 & 8 & can post up high or low, score from long distance & in transition& you got guys talking about Carl Landry as if he's a better option... it's insanity.

No, it's intelligence. Keep Melo at his natural #3 spot. Melo can do so much - why do you want him playing the 4 and constantly banging bodies with guys bigger than him. Increases the chances that he will get injured, or minimally get tired out by constantly battling for position under the boards. That's what Carl Landry can do at 250 lbs.

Ideally I'd love to get all 3 - Melo, Dalembert, Carl Landry. All can be free agents at the end of this year.

what i'm saying is you don't pass up a chance to get Melo to target guys like Carl Landry... the way MDA likes to play small lineups i can easily see him using Melo as a 4, just like he was doing with Wilson Chandler for a long stretch this season... of course u would prefer to play Melo at the 3, but whatever the case may be u can still use him in the post to score u points when Amare is on the bench... a guy like Landry is not going to net you better production offensively than Melo is playing in the PnR the way MDA likes to run plays in this offense... Landry would make a nice backup PF for Amare on this team, if u can get him as a fill in piece, i'm all for it... or u can target a more defensive minded rebounding PF like Reggie Evans, i'd be fine with that too... those types of role players are widely available... guys like Melo aren't... IMO u have to go after the star talent first & fill in the pieces later.

TMS wrote:

Markji wrote:

TMS wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

TMS wrote:Melo would play PF in an MDA system & he's a better post player than anyone u can name that we can get.

And he's an excellent rebounder, which would justify him playing the 4 spot.

my God, we're talking about a 6'8" 230 lb superstar player who averages 24 & 8 & can post up high or low, score from long distance & in transition& you got guys talking about Carl Landry as if he's a better option... it's insanity.

No, it's intelligence. Keep Melo at his natural #3 spot. Melo can do so much - why do you want him playing the 4 and constantly banging bodies with guys bigger than him. Increases the chances that he will get injured, or minimally get tired out by constantly battling for position under the boards. That's what Carl Landry can do at 250 lbs.

Ideally I'd love to get all 3 - Melo, Dalembert, Carl Landry. All can be free agents at the end of this year.

what i'm saying is you don't pass up a chance to get Melo to target guys like Carl Landry... the way MDA likes to play small lineups i can easily see him using Melo as a 4, just like he was doing with Wilson Chandler for a long stretch this season... of course u would prefer to play Melo at the 3, but whatever the case may be u can still use him in the post to score u points when Amare is on the bench... a guy like Landry is not going to net you better production offensively than Melo is playing in the PnR the way MDA likes to run plays in this offense... Landry would make a nice backup PF for Amare on this team, if u can get him as a fill in piece, i'm all for it... or u can target a more defensive minded rebounding PF like Reggie Evans, i'd be fine with that too... those types of role players are widely available... guys like Melo aren't... IMO u have to go after the star talent first & fill in the pieces later.

BRIGGS wrote:I dont know the name of a player I can just tell you that we need a Paul Millsap type guy--someone who can play with amare or play without and be able to score in the post ALONG with another big. Good teams have three good bigs and depth behind them. On this team we need a second big who cans core and take pressure of amare. we also need balance at PG both amare and felton are breaking down.

I think we need a Kareem Abdul Jabbar type guy. And a Michael Jordan type guy. I also don't know the name of a player.

simrud wrote:If we don't Melo, than a trade for Landry and Delambert would be a great idea. Gives us both a starting C and a backup PF right away. They need guards don't they? Something like Curry and Walker should do the trick. Maybe we have to give them something more for it to make sense for them.

Curry & Walker is not gonna get us Dalembert & Landry... we'd have to give them something more, at the bare minimum AR.

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

TMS wrote:Melo would play PF in an MDA system & he's a better post player than anyone u can name that we can get.

And he's an excellent rebounder, which would justify him playing the 4 spot.