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GustavBahler
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1/13/2011  9:03 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/13/2011  9:04 PM
I know some of you don't like Broussard.. cough.. Knicks1248 lol but....

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/news/story?id=6019859

The New York Knicks have reached out to Memphis about participating in a three-team deal that would send Grizzlies guard O.J. Mayo to Denver and Carmelo Anthony to New York, according to league sources.

Talks are in the infant stages and nothing is imminent, but the discussions are a sign of the Knicks' increased aggressiveness in trying to trade for Anthony.

Emboldened by their belief that Anthony will refuse to sign a three-year, $65 million contract extension with the New Jersey Nets, the Knicks have stepped up their efforts to bring the Nuggets star to New York.


The Knicks have tried to engage Denver in trade talks all season, but the Nuggets, unmoved by the players New York has to offer, have been unwilling to partake in significant discussions. Sources, however, say that is changing as the Nuggets themselves wonder whether Anthony is willing to go to New Jersey.

The Knicks understand they need to recruit another trade partner or two in order to put together a package Denver would be interested in, and that's their motivation for inquiring about Mayo. It is not clear at this point whether Denver is actively involved in the talks with Memphis.

Mayo, who has had a disappointing and controversial season in Memphis, is on the trading block, and the Knicks' hope is that he would satisfy Denver's desire for a promising young prospect. Though the third-year guard is coming off the bench and scoring less than 13 points a game this season, Mayo averaged 18 points over his first two years.

Rumors surfaced last month about Mayo possibly being traded to the Knicks, but the Knicks' only interest in him is to aid them in acquiring Anthony.

The Knicks will also need at least one first-round draft pick to grab Denver's attention, and New York is confident it can get such a pick for Anthony Randolph from one of several clubs. Sources say Indiana was willing to trade a first-round pick to New York for Randolph last summer.

Any Knicks package for Anthony would also likely include some combination of Wilson Chandler, Danilo Gallinari or Landry Fields.

While the Nuggets weren't impressed with those names early in the season, their strong play during the Knicks' resurgence has upped their value, according to sources.

Meanwhile, the Nuggets continue to discuss a possible three-team deal with the Nets and Pistons. In a deal that could include more than 13 players, the Nets would receive Anthony, Chauncey Billups and Detroit's Richard Hamilton while Denver would get Nets rookie Derrick Favors, Devin Harris, two first-round draft picks and several other minor players.

But even if the clubs agree to a deal, Anthony could kill it by refusing to sign an extension to play long-term in New Jersey. Several sources say Anthony does not want to play in New Jersey and has thus far given no indication that he would sign such an extension.

Anthony's agent, Leon Rose, has been pushing for a deal with New Jersey and, in an effort to get the star to sign off on the trade, several people have been telling Anthony that New York doesn't want to break up its current team to get him, according to sources.

Sources say that's why Anthony made the curious comment on Monday in which he wondered whether the Knicks even wanted him.

"New York is playing well right now. I don't think they're looking at me," Anthony said. "They wouldn't want me to come in there and mess what they have up. That's what I've read."

But the Knicks are very interested in Anthony. The club's preference would be to sign him as a free agent next summer and thereby keep their current roster intact.

But in that scenario, Anthony would not receive the $65 million extension and with a new collective bargaining agreement on the horizon, he would risk losing millions of dollars by entering free agency.

If Anthony eventually nixes a move to New Jersey and tells Denver he will only sign an extension with New York, the Nuggets would likely either trade him to the Knicks or a club like Houston that would be willing to trade for him without his signing an extension.

Chris Broussard covers the NBA for ESPN The Magazine.

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1/13/2011  9:19 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Denver leaked this to get NJ to cave into its demands. I bet the Knicks have reached out at some point.

The best thing is for the Knicks to wait this out as long as possible. If Denver doesn't want Melo to walk without getting anything back, they will have to accept what the Knicks are willing to give.

Nets are definitely offering the best deal, but I don't really think Anthony believes that playing with Rip Hamilton and Brook Lopez is gonna get him anywhere

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1/13/2011  9:43 PM
OJ Mayo maybe a player Denver would like may be it will mitigate our lack of picks.
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1/13/2011  10:06 PM
The Knicks will also need at least one first-round draft pick to grab Denver's attention, and New York is confident it can get such a pick for Anthony Randolph from one of several clubs. Sources say Indiana was willing to trade a first-round pick to New York for Randolph last summer.

If we ship AR off to Minny for a 1st, who do we send to Memphis for Mayo?

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1/13/2011  10:14 PM
MaTT4281 wrote:
The Knicks will also need at least one first-round draft pick to grab Denver's attention, and New York is confident it can get such a pick for Anthony Randolph from one of several clubs. Sources say Indiana was willing to trade a first-round pick to New York for Randolph last summer.

If we ship AR off to Minny for a 1st, who do we send to Memphis for Mayo?

Gallo for Mayo?

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1/13/2011  10:30 PM
Couple of things concern me. First, I noticed Rip Hamilton didn't play in the last game whihc was the first DNP in years for him. Could Detroit be holding him out because a trade is imminent? Also, I hate the idea of Melo dealing with World Wide Wes who has his own agenda in delivering Melo to the Nyets. Not to mention Rose is more concerned about the money and Rip being shipped out of a bad situation. Hopefully Melo doesn't submit and realizes that those self-serving agents work for him and not the other way around. In fact, Melo would be better off foring those guys because they surely dont have hin best interests in mind.
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1/13/2011  10:37 PM
VDesai wrote:
MaTT4281 wrote:
The Knicks will also need at least one first-round draft pick to grab Denver's attention, and New York is confident it can get such a pick for Anthony Randolph from one of several clubs. Sources say Indiana was willing to trade a first-round pick to New York for Randolph last summer.

If we ship AR off to Minny for a 1st, who do we send to Memphis for Mayo?

Gallo for Mayo?

then who's going to DEN for Melo? IMO the plan might be for JR Smith to go to MEM & Gallo/AR/Mayo to DEN... maybe we're sending MEM some dollars to offset the difference in salaries between Mayo & Smith?

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1/13/2011  10:40 PM
TMS wrote:
VDesai wrote:
MaTT4281 wrote:
The Knicks will also need at least one first-round draft pick to grab Denver's attention, and New York is confident it can get such a pick for Anthony Randolph from one of several clubs. Sources say Indiana was willing to trade a first-round pick to New York for Randolph last summer.

If we ship AR off to Minny for a 1st, who do we send to Memphis for Mayo?

Gallo for Mayo?

then who's going to DEN for Melo? IMO the plan might be for JR Smith to go to MEM & Gallo/AR/Mayo to DEN... maybe we're sending MEM some dollars to offset the difference in salaries between Mayo & Smith?

probably looks like: Gallo to Memphis ---> Mayo to Den ----> Melo to NY

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1/13/2011  10:44 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:
TMS wrote:
VDesai wrote:
MaTT4281 wrote:
The Knicks will also need at least one first-round draft pick to grab Denver's attention, and New York is confident it can get such a pick for Anthony Randolph from one of several clubs. Sources say Indiana was willing to trade a first-round pick to New York for Randolph last summer.

If we ship AR off to Minny for a 1st, who do we send to Memphis for Mayo?

Gallo for Mayo?

then who's going to DEN for Melo? IMO the plan might be for JR Smith to go to MEM & Gallo/AR/Mayo to DEN... maybe we're sending MEM some dollars to offset the difference in salaries between Mayo & Smith?

probably looks like: Gallo to Memphis ---> Mayo to Den ----> Melo to NY


Right Memphis gets Gallo. Denver gets Mayo, 1st rounder, Eddy's expiring and probably some other stuff we haven't heard about yet. I'm working under the assumption the Denver may not like Gallo's game all that much...

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1/13/2011  11:01 PM
I don't think the Knicks get Anthony without giving up Fields and Chandler.
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1/13/2011  11:13 PM
CrushAlot wrote:I don't think the Knicks get Anthony without giving up Fields and Chandler.

i don't think DW wants to give up either, but i do think he's willing to trade Gallo... if he can get Mayo to Denver also that gives them the other young player to add to the Gallo/AR package... maybe AR is going to MIN for their #1 pick that will be parlayed to DEN as well?

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1/13/2011  11:38 PM
TMS wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:I don't think the Knicks get Anthony without giving up Fields and Chandler.

i don't think DW wants to give up either, but i do think he's willing to trade Gallo... if he can get Mayo to Denver also that gives them the other young player to add to the Gallo/AR package... maybe AR is going to MIN for their #1 pick that will be parlayed to DEN as well?

I don't think he's giving Gallo up.

It's likely that Chandler goes for Melo. Chandler expires and you face the prospect of having to put up cash money for him, and if you keep Gallo you can have Melo and Gallo next year under rookie contract. And Gallo compliments Melo better than Chandler, who would be redundant with Melo on the team.

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1/13/2011  11:45 PM
orangeblobman wrote:
TMS wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:I don't think the Knicks get Anthony without giving up Fields and Chandler.

i don't think DW wants to give up either, but i do think he's willing to trade Gallo... if he can get Mayo to Denver also that gives them the other young player to add to the Gallo/AR package... maybe AR is going to MIN for their #1 pick that will be parlayed to DEN as well?

I don't think he's giving Gallo up.

It's likely that Chandler goes for Melo. Chandler expires and you face the prospect of having to put up cash money for him, and if you keep Gallo you can have Melo and Gallo next year under rookie contract. And Gallo compliments Melo better than Chandler, who would be redundant with Melo on the team.

Denver wants picks & young players on rookie scale contracts... Wilson is due for a big pay raise this summer.

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1/14/2011  12:02 AM
It's Isola, but...deny, deny, deny....

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/knicks/2011/01/donnie-walsh-denies-most-recent-carmelo-anthony-trade-rumor-involving-oj-mayo?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+nydnrss/blogs/knicks+(Blogs/Knicks+Knation)


JANUARY 13, 2011 11:22 PM
Donnie Walsh denies most recent Carmelo Anthony trade rumor involving O.J. Mayo
BY FRANK ISOLA

As the Nets attempt to finalize a trade for Carmelo Anthony an internet report claims that the Knicks are trying to recruit Memphis to facilitate a deal for the Denver All-Star.

Knicks president Donnie Walsh Thursday night denied being in talks with both the Grizzlies and Nuggets in a complicated trade that would bring Anthony to New York. The Grizzlies involvement would include sending O.J. Mayo to the Nuggets while the Knicks would trade a combination of Wilson Chandler plus Danilo Gallinari or Landry Fields.

Meanwhile, a source involved in the negotiations remains confident that the proposed three-way deal between the Nets, Nuggets and Pistons would be completed early next week. Anthony was in the starting lineup on Thursday when the Nuggets hosted the Miami Heat. The Nets face the Lakers on Friday in Los Angeles.

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1/14/2011  12:08 AM
TMS wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:
TMS wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:I don't think the Knicks get Anthony without giving up Fields and Chandler.

i don't think DW wants to give up either, but i do think he's willing to trade Gallo... if he can get Mayo to Denver also that gives them the other young player to add to the Gallo/AR package... maybe AR is going to MIN for their #1 pick that will be parlayed to DEN as well?

I don't think he's giving Gallo up.

It's likely that Chandler goes for Melo. Chandler expires and you face the prospect of having to put up cash money for him, and if you keep Gallo you can have Melo and Gallo next year under rookie contract. And Gallo compliments Melo better than Chandler, who would be redundant with Melo on the team.

Denver wants picks & young players on rookie scale contracts... Wilson is due for a big pay raise this summer.

They're gonna lose a lot of their fan base if they trade Gallo.

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1/14/2011  12:51 AM
I don't know if this would even be a remote possibility but here is a trade that work through the trade machine. http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=49q6z4t
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1/14/2011  12:56 AM
orangeblobman wrote:
TMS wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:I don't think the Knicks get Anthony without giving up Fields and Chandler.

i don't think DW wants to give up either, but i do think he's willing to trade Gallo... if he can get Mayo to Denver also that gives them the other young player to add to the Gallo/AR package... maybe AR is going to MIN for their #1 pick that will be parlayed to DEN as well?

I don't think he's giving Gallo up.

It's likely that Chandler goes for Melo. Chandler expires and you face the prospect of having to put up cash money for him, and if you keep Gallo you can have Melo and Gallo next year under rookie contract. And Gallo compliments Melo better than Chandler, who would be redundant with Melo on the team.

honestly, melo gives us everything chandler can times 20.... I feel walsh is trying to pawn chandler off on the nuggets... and honestly why make chandler the 3rd option in our offense, especially when gallo is the better passer, and ball handler and can score just as well.... maybe to boost chandler's value? then he comes out with the vote of confidence to chandler... sounds like he may be on the move.. makes sense to me..

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1/14/2011  8:23 AM
StillaKnicksfan wrote:I don't know if this would even be a remote possibility but here is a trade that work through the trade machine. http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=49q6z4t

Thanks for this, it was very helpful

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1/14/2011  8:26 AM
Really, Donnie might be very busy but keeping it all under wraps. Gotta keep the team together and not make it all so public! Good Job Donnie.
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1/14/2011  8:31 AM
OK, I never do these but here goes:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4kdbfkd

Basically
NY gets Melo, Demarre Carrol
Memphis gets NoSharrington, Anthony Randolph
Denver gets Mayo, Young from Memphis
Chandler, Curry and Douglas from NY
2014 First Round Pick

Why NY - Obvious
Why Memphis - Trade Mayo & Young and get Randolph, Harrington Youth and scoring
Why Denver - Rid themselves of Harrington's Deal,
Get 3 Young players that are good and Young who is a throw in.

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